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Anchor Change with Katie Harbath

Welcome to Anchor Change, where we help you panic responsibly in a chaotic world. I’m Katie Harbath—a Midwesterner living in DC who’s spent two decades navigating impossible tradeoffs at the intersection of tech, politics, and democracy. Each week, I’ll break down the headlines, talk with people forging bold paths, and explore how we can face disruption with clarity and courage. This isn’t about hot takes—it’s about finding steady ground when everything feels uncertain. In a world of complexity,

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44:57

Building Election Fact Checking Coalitions

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/06/06

Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube!This week Claire Wardle and Daniel Bramatti discuss their work in creating fact-checking coalitions around elections as a follow up to the guide we published back in April. They highlight the importance of collaboration and trust-building among news organizations and social media platforms. They also discuss the challenges they faced in handling misinformation during elections, such as dealing with blackouts and coordinating with tech companies. They emphasize

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43:05

Don't Listen to Us

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/05/30

Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube!I’m so honored to have my good friend and expert extraordinaire Kat Duffy as my guest this week. I have no words other than you should listen to everything she says.SummaryKat Duffy, a senior fellow for digital and cyberspace policy at the Council on Foreign Relations, discusses her work in the trust and safety space and her role in leading the Trust and Safety Task Force. The task force brought together a diverse group of experts to explore the evolving

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43:32

Speaking Out Amidst Unjust Attacks

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2024/05/23

ACK! I totally forgot to schedule this last night. So sorry for my delay.Don’t forget to follow us on YouTube!This week we welcome Nina Jankowicz to the podcast. She talks about the importance of recognizing Russia's use of disinformation as a geopolitical strategy and the need for more vocal online presence in countering disinformation. Nina also shares her observations of the impact of Russian disinformation during the 2016 US election from her vantage point in Ukraine. She discusses her research

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42:11

The Reality of Data-Driven Campaigning

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2024/05/16

Kate Dommett, a professor of digital politics, discusses her book “Data-Driven Campaigning and Political Parties” and her research on how political parties use data in election campaigns. She explores the prevailing narratives around data-driven campaigning and how they often do not match reality. Dommett also discusses the role of regulation in data-driven campaigning and the potential threats to democracy. She emphasizes the need for a nuanced understanding of data use in campaigns and the

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39:40

Pivot! Navigating Unprecedented Times with Audacity...

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/05/09

Sorry for the slight delay today. The tech gods were not being kind. Watch this on YouTube!NOTE: A lot of this summary and show notes were generated via a new AI tool by Riverside.fmIn this episode, Brian Fishman, co-founder and chief strategy officer at Cinder, discusses his background in studying terrorism and his work at Facebook. He shares insights on the early days of using the internet for research on terrorist organizations and the challenges of trust and safety in the tech industry. Brian

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40:22

Team Duco on Trends in Tech

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2024/05/02

Watch this episode on YouTube.As most of you know, I started working full-time as the Global Affairs Officer of Duco Experts in January. One of the things I like about the job is getting to work across the industry and seeing how companies tackle similar problems differently. Thus, I thought it would be fun to bring the leadership team on the podcast to discuss some trends. Sidney Olinyk is the founder and CEO. Neema Basri is the Chief Operating Officer, and Scott Hoch is the Chief Technology

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60:42

Harbath Solo Session: Frequently Asked Questions

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2024/04/25

I’m trying something different for this week’s podcast. I originally hoped I would have a webinar to repurpose, but we ended up rescheduling it, so rather than not doing a podcast this week, I thought I would record the answers to questions I get quite often.In this discussion, I go into seven different areas of interest. Topics and time stamps are below. I hope you enjoy it! * 2:04 - My career path & how I mapped out my post-Facebook journey* Lessons from Striking Out on My Own* Mapping Out My Post

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48:59

Trust & Safety & Integrity & Governance

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/04/18

Watch the video of our conversation on YouTube!This week, I welcome Professor Kate Klonick to the podcast. The name of this episode comes from some amazing swag Kate made for a conference she put on last year on the history of the Trust and Safety profession. (You know how much I love swag.)Kate is among the foremost experts on many things, including platform governance of speech. In 2018, she wrote a paper at Harvard titled “The New Governors: The People, Rules, and Processes Governing Online

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47:47

Lies, Damn Lies and Disinformation

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2024/04/11

Don’t forget you can watch all of these on YouTube!This week, we are discussing all things online influence operations with one of the foremost experts - Olga Belogolva. We’re talking about Russians, Chinese, Iranians, and other actors who want to influence the online information environment. The title of this episode comes from one of her classes she used to teach at Georgetown.Olga is the Director of the Emerging Technologies Initiative at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies

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37:33

Michael Bąk on the intersection of tech and civil...

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2024/04/04

Don’t forget you can also watch this on YouTube!This week, we are talking to Michael Bąk. Michael brings more than two decades of experience across international development, peacebuilding, diplomacy, and tech policy. Throughout his career, he has sustained a strong commitment to democratic governance, human rights, and information integrity.He is currently the Executive Director of the Forum on Information and Democracy and a former colleague of mine at Facebook, where he was the head of public

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40:13

Nate Persily on Elections, Social Media and AI

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2024/03/28

Don’t forget you can also watch these on YouTube!This week we welcome Stanford Law Professor Nate Persily to the podcast. I’ve known Nate since 2013/2014 when he held a gathering at Stanford with folks in the tech/digital industry and the Federal Elections Commission. Nate has been a thought leader his entire career with experiences across technology, academia and election administration. We get into all of that in this conversation. Some links from what we talked about:* Nate’s bio* Stanford Cyber

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38:22

Who Voters Trust for Election Information in 2024

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2024/03/21

Don’t forget you can now also watch these conversations on YouTube!This week, we are diving deep into elections and specifically where people go to get information on the election. Rachel Orey is the Bipartisan Policy Center’s Senior Associate Director where they are responsible for the organization’s election administration policy development, state and federal advocacy efforts, and the BPC Task Force on Elections. Their research focuses on evidence-based and data-driven reforms that meaningfully

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55:39

Lie Detectives: How Political Campaigns Fight...

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/03/14

This week on the podcast, we are taking you to SXSW and discussing a conversation I had with Sasha Issenberg about his new book, Lie Detectives: How Political Campaigns Fight Disinformation. You might remember him from his popular book Victory Lab, which was published after Obama won.Sasha’s book looks at people in the U.S. and Brazil who were at the forefront of helping campaigns figure out how to combat disinformation—including when to ignore it. He also touches on how many on the Right view this

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34:08

Democracy Works: Helping voters navigate the first...

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/03/07

We’re back! I didn’t intend to take two full months off from the podcast, but as many of you know, I started a new job in January as the Chief Global Affairs Officer of Duco Experts - a technology consulting firm. It has been overwhelming, in a good way, but it took me a bit to get started again with the podcast. I’ve got some exciting guests lined up. I figure we’ll do this season through the end of May, and then I’ll re-evaluate for the rest of the year.To kick things off, I’m excited to have Luis

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31:24

Facebook Turns 20

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2024/02/04

In this special episode of Impossible Tradeoffs, I sit down with Latika Bourke - a journalist who I first met in Sydney ten years ago - who now has her own Substack at . In celebration of Facebook’s 20th birthday we sat down to take a look back at the role the platform has played in politics and elections and what we might expect going forward. Get full access to Anchor Change with Katie Harbath at anchorchange.substack.com/subscribe

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41:30

Lessons in building a safe platform from scratch

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2023/12/28

It’s our last podcast of the year! Thank you all for joining my journey in starting this podcast. As a reminder, I’ll take some time off before restarting episodes in 2024. Don't forget to fill out this short form if you have ideas for what you’d like to see.This week’s fun trade-off is:For our last guest of 2023, I’m welcoming Sarah Oh to the podcast.Sarah is a human rights expert and tech executive who has worked at Meta, Twitter, and, most recently, Pebble. Pebble worked a lot like Twitter, but

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44:44

Elections in Mexico

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2023/12/21

You all like your guacamole! In last week's poll, 64% of you voted for it over queso. I have friends who have strong feelings on either side of this debate. Maybe someday I’ll expand this podcast beyond just impossible tradeoffs in tech. By the way, I’m on team queso.This week’s fun tradeoff question is:This week, we are traveling to Mexico. They will have their elections on June 2, 2024. Mexico’s presidents are limited to one term and only get elected every six years. That’s part of the reason it

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50:23

The Evolution of Trust and Safety

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2023/12/14

There are only a few more episodes of Impossible Tradeoffs for 2023! Today’s fun tradeoff question is a real challenge:From past tradeoff questions, most of you who took the polls prefer to live in the city (81%) rather than the country (19%). An equal number of you like to travel by plane and automobile (38%), and 25% of you like to take the train.Also, don’t forget to take this quick survey to let me know your thoughts about the podcast and what you want to see in 2024!Let’s get to this week’s

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41:44

Elections in India

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2023/12/07

Welcome to this week’s podcast. The fun question to kick things off with is …For this week’s podcast, we are heading to India. I’ve been following Indian politics since late 2013 and find it absolutely fascinating. Their elections are unlike any anywhere else in the world.To help us navigate all of that, Shoaib Daniyal joins me from the news website Scroll India. Shoaib is the political editor and walks us through everything from the mechanics of how election are run, all the various political

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54:18

Elections in the United Kingdom

Anchor Change with Katie Harbath ·

2023/11/30

Hi all, we are back after a week break for Thanksgiving with a new episode! This week, I recorded three more interviews, which, along with the ones I already have in the hopper, will take us through December 28th. After that, I plan on taking a short break - no more than a few weeks - to think about how I can make the podcast better. I’ve enjoyed putting it together and so appreciate my guests and you, the listener. To that end, I’d love your feedback. If you have a few minutes, please share your

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