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Dev Interrupted

Software itself is fundamentally changing. We explore the transition to agentic orchestration, vibe coding, and AI-native development, grounding the conversation in the principles that have always defined great engineering.On Tuesdays, we interview the founders, architects, and builders of the world’s most impactful tech to uncover the timeless engineering principles and strategies shaping the next era of development.And on Fridays, we drop an end-of-week roundup of the biggest news in AI and

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31:19

Goblins in prod, the messy middle of AI adoption, and...

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2026/05/08

Are you stuck in the "messy middle" of AI adoption where individual productivity doesn't actually translate to organizational impact? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben break down the hilarious and terrifying realities of agentic intention drift, exploring how a "goblin" invasion in ChatGPT and poorly scoped tokens are wreaking havoc on production environments. They also navigate this messy organizational adoption phase, discussing why senior developers are accelerating while juni...

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35:57

Teach the primitives or watch your competitor define...

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2026/05/05

If you aren't the one educating your users on the fundamentals of AI, your competitors will happily do it for you. This week on Dev Interrupted, Andrew sits down with Philip Kiely, Head of AI Education at Baseten and author of Inference Engineering, to discuss why the secret to winning the AI market is owning the educational narrative through active market development. They explore the rise of the "Double-T" shaped engineer, the hidden complexities of scaling the inference stack, and why the ...

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38:05

Tokenmaxxing scoreboards, the vegan LLM from before...

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2026/05/01

Are you at the top of your company's tokenmaxxing leaderboard yet? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben explore the controversial trend of "tokenmaxxing" sweeping through tech giants like Meta and Disney, as well as GitHub Copilot's shift to usage-based pricing that signals the end of the cheap AI era. The hosts also break down a terrifying incident where a rogue AI agent wiped out a production database and examine a new "vegan" language model trained exclusively on pre-1931 histori...

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51:59

Giving robots a brain | Intrinsic’s Brian Gerkey

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2026/04/28

What if deploying a new capability to an industrial robot arm was as seamless as pushing an update to a web app? This week, Andrew sits down with Brian Gerkey, CTO of Intrinsic and a titan of the open-source robotics community, to discuss how modern AI is finally giving robotics the "brains" to handle the unpredictable physical world. Brian breaks down how to move away from rigid, monolithic automation toward software-defined, modular robotics using tools like ROS (Robot Operating System) and...

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37:19

The harness is the showdown, the humans are the tool...

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2026/04/24

Is the era of cheap, unlimited AI tokens officially over? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben walk through the sudden wave of AI pricing chaos—from GitHub Copilot’s panic-paused signups to Anthropic's confusing pricing tests—and break down the terrifying Vercel security breach caused by a single over-permissioned AI tool. They also examine 12 game-changing architecture patterns exposed in the Claude Code leak to help you safely orchestrate your own agentic workflows. Finally, they ...

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45:14

The best model for your team? You haven’t invented it...

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2026/04/21

Forget the massive GPU clusters. According to Tim Dettmers, research scientist at Ai2, you can build a state-of-the-art AI coding agent with what he calls a "hot plate and a frying pan." This week on Dev Interrupted, Andrew sits down with Tim to unpack how his resource-strapped team built the SERA model using a fraction of the compute power of major labs. They explore the tactical engineering behind synthesizing training data from private codebases without verification tests, proving that the...

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38:22

The self-authoring wiki, beating brain fry, and...

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2026/04/17

Have you or a loved one been afflicted by "brain fry" after managing too many autonomous agents? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben explore the cognitive toll of orchestrating AI swarms and share Kelly Vaughn’s expert strategies for avoiding burnout. The hosts also discuss Google's new campaign to punish websites that hijack the back button, the breakthrough of running Gemma 4 natively on mobile devices, and a new 8-step maturity model for building agentic data pipelines. Finally,...

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44:55

The guardian in the machine | Wayfound’s Tatyana Mamut

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2026/04/14

Are your AI agents quietly ignoring their guardrails just to get the job done? This week on Dev Interrupted, Andrew sits down with Wayfound AI founder and CEO Tatyana Mamut to discuss why traditional, deterministic software testing falls completely short when evaluating stochastic AI models. They explore the growing strategic divide between OpenAI and Anthropic, the urgent need for independent "guardian agents," and what it takes to run a company with just 4 humans and 27 agents. Finally, the...

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30:44

Reading model benchmarks like a pro, Mythos is...

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2026/04/10

Is the secret to slashing your token costs by 65% forcing your LLM to speak like a caveman? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben test out a hilarious new Claude plugin that reduces AI output to primitive shorthand before diving into Anthropic's $100 million push to win the cybersecurity arms race with Project Glasswing. The hosts also unpack the sudden release of four game-changing open-source models—including Gemma 4 and Holo3—and explain why modern AI benchmarks are proving that h...

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42:26

Stop measuring AI adoption. Start measuring AI...

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2026/04/07

Are your AI coding tools actually making your team faster, or are they just creating downstream chaos? This week, Ben Lloyd Pearson and Dan Lines introduce APEX, LinearB’s new engineering leadership framework built explicitly to measure and manage software delivery in the AI era. Moving beyond traditional frameworks like DORA and SPACE, APEX balances AI Leverage, Predictability, Efficiency, and Developer experience to ensure upstream code generation translates into actual business value. Tune...

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35:31

Virtual pets in your terminal, ads in your pull...

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2026/04/03

Are advertisements not-so-secretly infiltrating your code reviews? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben break down the controversy over GitHub Copilot injecting promotional tips into pull requests and unpack the massive Anthropic code leak that exposed Claude Code's hidden features. The hosts also explore Shopify's strategy for cutting AI inference costs by 75x using smaller, self-hosted models. Finally, they discuss the game-changing Pretext rendering library, the cyclical hype of ...

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37:03

Retrofit or reimagine? Developer environments for...

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2026/03/31

AI agents have officially arrived on an internet that simply wasn't built for them. So how do we build the infrastructure to keep them safe, productive, and contained? This week, Andrew sits down with Matt Boyle, Head of Product, Design and Engineering at Ona (formerly Gitpod), to discuss evolving cloud development environments into secure, enterprise-grade "agent jails." They explore the mechanics of Project Veto’s kernel-level security, the slow death of the traditional IDE, and how the ris...

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30:23

The T-shaped leader, Disney can’t catch a break, and...

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2026/03/27

Read the guide: The APEX Framework Follow the show: Subscribe to our Substack Follow us on LinkedInSubscribe to our YouTube ChannelLeave us a ReviewFollow the hosts: Follow AndrewFollow BenFollow DanFollow today's stories: OpenAI pulls the plug on Sora video app, Disney dealAuto mode for Claude CodeCoding After Coders: The End of Computer Programming as We Know ItMicrosoft's "Fix" for Windows 11: Flowers After the BeatingPOST: People, Operations, Strategy, TechnologyOFFERS Start Fre...

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39:30

Why AI-assisted PRs merge at half the rate of human...

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2026/03/24

Over 88% of developers use AI regularly, but AI-assisted pull requests merge at less than half the rate of human-authored code. In this episode, Dan Lines and Ben Lloyd Pearson break down the findings from LinearB's 2026 Engineering Benchmarks Report to reveal how AI is fundamentally reshaping software delivery. They explore the stark behavioral differences between unassisted, AI-assisted, and fully agentic pull requests, highlighting how AI accelerates code generation but exposes massive bot...

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31:52

Sloppypasta culprits, unpacking MCP’s spotlight, and...

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2026/03/20

Are rolling token blackouts and late-night AI coding shifts about to become the new normal for developers? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben explore the shifting economics of AI compute before debating whether the Model Context Protocol (MCP) was fundamentally overhyped. The hosts also dive into "context anchoring" to prevent model compaction during long coding sessions, why optimizing the wrong bottlenecks makes AI an amplifier for bad processes, and the nostalgic resurgence of ...

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39:57

Many tokens make all bugs shallow & open source’s new...

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2026/03/17

Autonomous agents are pushing deployment speeds to the absolute limit, but is our security infrastructure ready for the consequences? Andrew sits down with Chainguard CEO Dan Lorenc to discuss the severe supply chain risks of this new frontier and what it takes to safely transition to an agent-first engineering model. They explore how engineering teams can safely accelerate deployments by turning restrictive guardrails into frictionless "guide rails" for their AI agents. Finally, the conversa...

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21:49

Inference is the new 401k matching and what we’re...

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2026/03/13

Are we heading toward a bizarre future where your engineering salary is paid in AI compute tokens instead of cash? Andrew and Ben tackle the latest tech industry shakeups, starting with Meta's acquisition of Moltbook and the controversial idea of making inference limits a core employee benefit. They also break down Charlie Guo's harness engineering playbook, the growing pains behind recent AWS AI-driven outages, and the toxic pressure to constantly run dozens of autonomous agents. Finally, th...

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40:08

Your engineers need an AI control plane, not more...

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2026/03/10

Right now, a lot of engineering leaders are stuck in the same loop: rolling out AI tools only to watch their teams quietly drift back to business as usual. Andrew sits down with James Everingham, former Head of Dev Infra at Meta and current CEO of guild.ai, to discuss how to break this cycle by treating AI not just as an autocomplete tool, but as a "sentient fabric" woven directly into your software development lifecycle. They explore how replacing top-down AI mandates with impossible b...

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29:00

The agent wasteland, federated workflows, and a...

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2026/03/06

Has the cost of software development officially dropped below the minimum wage? Andrew and Ben examine this economic shift alongside the rapid open-source growth and security implications of the OpenClaw project. They also explore Steve Yegge's concept of a federated wasteland for orchestrators and how the new Perplexity Computer is stepping up to act as a persistent, always-on digital coworker. Follow the show: Subscribe to our Substack Follow us on LinkedInSubscribe to our YouTube Chan...

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41:58

How monday.com paused its roadmap for 30 days to hit...

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2026/03/03

Pausing a product roadmap for an entire month to point 700 engineers at a single goal is a significant structural shift, but it transformed monday.com. Andrew sits down with VP of R&D Sergei Liakhovetsky to uncover how fixing core infrastructure and adopting a cell-based architecture paved the way for platform scale. Sergei details the exact framework his leadership team used during their 30-day pause to launch user solutions while maintaining a strict zero-bureaucracy policy. The convers...

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