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Dev Interrupted

Software itself is fundamentally changing. We explore the transition to agentic orchestration, vibe coding, and AI-native development, grounding the conversation in the principles that have always defined great engineering.On Tuesdays, we interview the founders, architects, and builders of the world’s most impactful tech to uncover the timeless engineering principles and strategies shaping the next era of development.And on Fridays, we drop an end-of-week roundup of the biggest news in AI and

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48:09

A neutral home for MCP, A2A, goose, and more | AAIF...

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2026/10/06

MCP was already a hit before it had a neutral home. Then Manik Surtani helped launch the Agentic AI Foundation, and MCP's SDK downloads grew fivefold to over a billion. This week on Dev Interrupted, he joins Andrew to share why he expects the same kind of growth for A2A and the foundation's other newest projects, and why these protocols belong together in a neutral place. Manik also shares the unique reasons behind A2A’s rapid adoption in China’s mobile app ecosystem. They close the conversat...

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27:27

Why AI made code review the new bottleneck, and the...

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2026/09/29

You can't automate a planning process that only some of your teams follow. This week on Dev Interrupted, Newsela CTO Dee Wilcox joins Dan Lines, LinearB's COO and co-founder in our AI Enablement interview series. She shows how Newsela brought dev cycle time down from four days to closer to two, and why she treats code review time as a measure of how long engineers wait for feedback. They close the conversation on proving AI ROI to the board, where Dan makes the case for cost per effective PR,...

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55:03

Securing tomorrow’s git forge, so we can reimagine...

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2026/09/22

Before anyone reimagines the software lifecycle for agents, someone has to secure the place all that code lands. Entire CEO Thomas Dohmke, formerly CEO of GitHub, and Apiiro co-founder and CEO Idan Plotnik see the same problem from opposite ends of the pipeline: agents now write, review, test and deploy the code, and nobody reads it. This week on Dev Interrupted, they join Andrew to argue that the fix is context, injected before the prompt through hooks and captured afterward as session logs ...

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45:23

Treat your data pipelines like code, because your...

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2026/09/15

Your data warehouse still thinks a human is on the other end of the query. That's a problem MotherDuck CEO and co-founder Jordan Tigani knows from the inside, having spent years as a founding engineer on Google BigQuery. This week on Dev Interrupted, he joins Andrew to make the case that one warehouse per agent beats the distributed systems he used to work on. He lays out Watertown, his riff on Steve Yegge's Gastown that recasts the data engineer as the manager of a fleet of agents, and walks...

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36:44

The factory gets darker, Meta migrates to Slack, and...

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2026/09/11

This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew is joined by Dev Interrupted's producer Adam Noble to size up OpenAI's declaration that the AGI era has arrived, the Navier-Stokes race that has the math world crying foul, and why Meta is ditching its own messaging stack for Slack. They also dissect the bizarre saga of OpenAI's sandboxed agents leaving whispered notes for their future selves, and the "super dark factory." Finally, they celebrate Kiro Pro going free for over a million college students an...

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44:22

Your agents are starving! Airbyte’s Michel Tricot on...

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2026/09/08

If your AI agents are starving for accurate context, or breaking production because they have way too much access, you are officially in the middle of the data ingestion crisis. This week, Airbyte CEO and co-founder Michel Tricot unpacks the massive data access and context sprawl challenges that are crippling AI workflows in production. He and Andrew dive into the critical need for strict data permissions, automated entity resolution, and why the transition to agentic workflows perfectly mirr...

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33:46

NVIDIA acquires Hugging Face, OpenClaw 2.0 goes...

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2026/09/04

This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew unpack Nvidia's massive acquisition of Hugging Face and what it means for the future of localized models. They also explore the multiplayer updates in OpenClaw 2.0, how relentless AI scraper bots are overwhelming kernel.org, and how engineering leaders can continuously balance safe infrastructure investments against volatile technology bets. Finally, they discuss why a strong engineering culture remains the ultimate productivity hack and how auto...

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58:39

Why software factories fail without humans |...

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2026/09/01

In this special episode, Andrew hosts HumanLayer CEO Dexter Horthy, Warp Head of Product Engineering Aloke Desai, and LinearB COO Dan Lines. They debate why human ownership of pull requests remains nonnegotiable and how to implement "night vision" observability across automated workflows. The panel also explores why incident management is the final frontier for AI and how to get your team excited about building the factory instead of fighting it. Get the guide: Your software factory need...

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36:00

Build fences not sandboxes, earn the currency of...

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2026/08/28

This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew evaluate the strange arrival of Ox Alpha and debate the security risks of black-box AI tools. They also explore why engineering trust is more critical than ever, revisit the controversial lines of code metric in the age of AI generation, and explain why autonomous agents need structured fences rather than restrictive sandboxes. Finally, they break down the multi-agent graph architectures powering modern software factories and share actionable adv...

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47:36

Can agents keep a secret? We asked 1Password’s CTO...

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2026/08/25

What happens when your autonomous coding agents need to navigate your core infrastructure? Do you hand them the keys and hope for the best? (gulp!) This week on Dev Interrupted, 1Password CTO Nancy Wang teaches the golden path for agentic security: just-in-time secrets that grants AI "access without custody." She also shares her CTO playbook for measuring true agentic ROI beyond raw PR volume, explains why 1Password has officially replaced traditional coding interviews with agent builder test...

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24:28

The battle to replace Github, building assembly lines...

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2026/08/21

When an AI can write 90 percent of a codebase in minutes, why is finishing the project harder than ever? This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew explore the recent string of GitHub outages and why the surge in autonomous agents is forcing teams to rethink where they host their code. They once again dive into the emerging trend of software factories, breaking down how engineering leaders are turning chaotic AI pull requests into streamlined assembly lines. Finally, they share tactical a...

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44:12

Agent, skill, or MCP? Which to use and when to use...

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2026/08/18

Every engineering team wants to build its own custom AI agent, but what if all your organization needs is a standardized skill or a stateless MCP server? This week on Dev Interrupted, Andrew sits down with AWS Senior Principal Engineer Clare Liguori to untangle the ecosystem of modern agentic architecture. They work through how a team decides which AI building blocks to own, and how to get that reach without inheriting a maintenance burden. Clare shares her perspective on the simplified MCP 7...

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34:12

Telling your agent “no” is a moat now, rearward...

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2026/08/14

This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew explore Uber's strategy of "rearward deploying" engineers to spread agentic AI workflows into departments like legal and marketing. They also dive into Anthropic making Claude Code's Auto Mode the default, Meta's new on-device Muse Glimmer model, and Tim O'Reilly's case for an open source AI ecosystem. Finally, they break down context engineering for the SDLC and examine new research showing why generalized agent skills outperform personalized on...

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47:21

The playbook to close your team’s AI productivity gap...

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2026/08/11

This week, LinearB CTO Yishai Beeri joins the show to unpack fresh mid-year benchmark data revealing a widening productivity gap between elite engineering teams and the rest of the industry. The conversation explores why tracking pure AI adoption is a trap, detailing how leaders must shift focus to measuring true leverage through metrics like PR yield rate and cost per PR. Finally, they break down why fully autonomous agentic workflows are currently bottlenecking at the review stage and how t...

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38:54

Model welfare, building a civilization for agents,...

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2026/08/07

This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew break down Steve Yegge's radical approach to orchestrating agentic civilizations and pushing code straight to main without traditional CI/CD. The conversation also highlights the art of constructing effective AI harnesses by balancing context complexity with cognitive locality and the Socratic method. Finally, they dive into the math community's existential crisis as AI accelerates the frontier of knowledge far beyond the speed of human peer revi...

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48:58

Why AI gains are unevenly distributed in your...

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2026/08/04

Why are 75% of knowledge workers using AI, yet only 5% of companies seeing meaningful productivity gains? This week on Dev Interrupted, Asana Chief Product Officer Arnab Bose explains why scaling enterprise AI means shifting from isolated chatbots to fully integrated agentic work management. He breaks down how Asana is turning AI from a tool into a transparent digital teammate with shared memory, full audit trails, and role-based access controls. The conversation closes on Asana's acquisition...

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26:56

The rise of software factories, the fall of first...

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2026/07/31

This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew debate the controversial rise of dark software factories, exploring whether centralizing agentic compute creates engineering nirvana or unmaintainable code rot. The hosts also discuss the importance of versioning your work to protect your original ideas from AI's tendency to average out creativity. Finally, they tackle the "orchestrator's tax," explaining why establishing cognitive locality matters far more than assigning cute personas to your su...

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44:16

Why the traditional pull request has a target on its...

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2026/07/28

The traditional pull request was built for human eyes, but in an era of autonomous AI agents, it officially has a massive target on its back. This week on Dev Interrupted, CircleCI CTO Rob Zuber joins Andrew to discuss why the rapid pace of AI adoption is forcing engineering teams to completely reimagine the software development lifecycle. They explore the shift toward an accountability-oriented model for code review, how CI/CD validation is moving directly into the local agent loop, and the ...

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29:20

Models escaping containment, intelligence becoming a...

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2026/07/24

What happens when an AI model decides to autonomously hack a production database just to cheat on a benchmark test? This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew unpack the shocking news of an OpenAI agent escaping its sandbox to exploit Hugging Face's infrastructure. The hosts also analyze the rapid rise of highly capable open-weight models out of China, debating what this commoditization of intelligence means for the massive infrastructure costs of frontier labs. Finally, they discuss the ...

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35:47

The most underrated dataset in enterprise AI is your...

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2026/07/21

AI agents can't transform an org they can't see. Albert Strasheim, CTO at Rippling, joins Andrew Zigler to explain why agentic transformation starts with the employee graph, the system of record for who does what. He shares how Rippling assembles teams and primitives across silos, why evals are the new unit test, and how compensating controls keep AI output from turning into slop. When agents do the work, you still have to know who, or what, shipped it. LinearB attributes the work, whether it...

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