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Dev Interrupted

Software itself is fundamentally changing. We explore the transition to agentic orchestration, vibe coding, and AI-native development, grounding the conversation in the principles that have always defined great engineering.On Tuesdays, we interview the founders, architects, and builders of the world’s most impactful tech to uncover the timeless engineering principles and strategies shaping the next era of development.And on Fridays, we drop an end-of-week roundup of the biggest news in AI and

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44:55

The guardian in the machine | Wayfound’s Tatyana Mamut

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2026/04/14

Are your AI agents quietly ignoring their guardrails just to get the job done? This week on Dev Interrupted, Andrew sits down with Wayfound AI founder and CEO Tatyana Mamut to discuss why traditional, deterministic software testing falls completely short when evaluating stochastic AI models. They explore the growing strategic divide between OpenAI and Anthropic, the urgent need for independent "guardian agents," and what it takes to run a company with just 4 humans and 27 agents. Finally, the...

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30:44

Reading model benchmarks like a pro, Mythos is...

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2026/04/10

Is the secret to slashing your token costs by 65% forcing your LLM to speak like a caveman? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben test out a hilarious new Claude plugin that reduces AI output to primitive shorthand before diving into Anthropic's $100 million push to win the cybersecurity arms race with Project Glasswing. The hosts also unpack the sudden release of four game-changing open-source models—including Gemma 4 and Holo3—and explain why modern AI benchmarks are proving that h...

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42:26

Stop measuring AI adoption. Start measuring AI...

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2026/04/07

Are your AI coding tools actually making your team faster, or are they just creating downstream chaos? This week, Ben Lloyd Pearson and Dan Lines introduce APEX, LinearB’s new engineering leadership framework built explicitly to measure and manage software delivery in the AI era. Moving beyond traditional frameworks like DORA and SPACE, APEX balances AI Leverage, Predictability, Efficiency, and Developer experience to ensure upstream code generation translates into actual business value. Tune...

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35:31

Virtual pets in your terminal, ads in your pull...

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2026/04/03

Are advertisements not-so-secretly infiltrating your code reviews? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben break down the controversy over GitHub Copilot injecting promotional tips into pull requests and unpack the massive Anthropic code leak that exposed Claude Code's hidden features. The hosts also explore Shopify's strategy for cutting AI inference costs by 75x using smaller, self-hosted models. Finally, they discuss the game-changing Pretext rendering library, the cyclical hype of ...

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37:03

Retrofit or reimagine? Developer environments for...

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2026/03/31

AI agents have officially arrived on an internet that simply wasn't built for them. So how do we build the infrastructure to keep them safe, productive, and contained? This week, Andrew sits down with Matt Boyle, Head of Product, Design and Engineering at Ona (formerly Gitpod), to discuss evolving cloud development environments into secure, enterprise-grade "agent jails." They explore the mechanics of Project Veto’s kernel-level security, the slow death of the traditional IDE, and how the ris...

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30:23

The T-shaped leader, Disney can’t catch a break, and...

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2026/03/27

Read the guide: The APEX Framework Follow the show: Subscribe to our Substack Follow us on LinkedInSubscribe to our YouTube ChannelLeave us a ReviewFollow the hosts: Follow AndrewFollow BenFollow DanFollow today's stories: OpenAI pulls the plug on Sora video app, Disney dealAuto mode for Claude CodeCoding After Coders: The End of Computer Programming as We Know ItMicrosoft's "Fix" for Windows 11: Flowers After the BeatingPOST: People, Operations, Strategy, TechnologyOFFERS Start Fre...

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39:30

Why AI-assisted PRs merge at half the rate of human...

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2026/03/24

Over 88% of developers use AI regularly, but AI-assisted pull requests merge at less than half the rate of human-authored code. In this episode, Dan Lines and Ben Lloyd Pearson break down the findings from LinearB's 2026 Engineering Benchmarks Report to reveal how AI is fundamentally reshaping software delivery. They explore the stark behavioral differences between unassisted, AI-assisted, and fully agentic pull requests, highlighting how AI accelerates code generation but exposes massive bot...

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31:52

Sloppypasta culprits, unpacking MCP’s spotlight, and...

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2026/03/20

Are rolling token blackouts and late-night AI coding shifts about to become the new normal for developers? This week on the Friday Deploy, Andrew and Ben explore the shifting economics of AI compute before debating whether the Model Context Protocol (MCP) was fundamentally overhyped. The hosts also dive into "context anchoring" to prevent model compaction during long coding sessions, why optimizing the wrong bottlenecks makes AI an amplifier for bad processes, and the nostalgic resurgence of ...

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39:57

Many tokens make all bugs shallow & open source’s new...

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2026/03/17

Autonomous agents are pushing deployment speeds to the absolute limit, but is our security infrastructure ready for the consequences? Andrew sits down with Chainguard CEO Dan Lorenc to discuss the severe supply chain risks of this new frontier and what it takes to safely transition to an agent-first engineering model. They explore how engineering teams can safely accelerate deployments by turning restrictive guardrails into frictionless "guide rails" for their AI agents. Finally, the conversa...

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21:49

Inference is the new 401k matching and what we’re...

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2026/03/13

Are we heading toward a bizarre future where your engineering salary is paid in AI compute tokens instead of cash? Andrew and Ben tackle the latest tech industry shakeups, starting with Meta's acquisition of Moltbook and the controversial idea of making inference limits a core employee benefit. They also break down Charlie Guo's harness engineering playbook, the growing pains behind recent AWS AI-driven outages, and the toxic pressure to constantly run dozens of autonomous agents. Finally, th...

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40:08

Your engineers need an AI control plane, not more...

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2026/03/10

Right now, a lot of engineering leaders are stuck in the same loop: rolling out AI tools only to watch their teams quietly drift back to business as usual. Andrew sits down with James Everingham, former Head of Dev Infra at Meta and current CEO of guild.ai, to discuss how to break this cycle by treating AI not just as an autocomplete tool, but as a "sentient fabric" woven directly into your software development lifecycle. They explore how replacing top-down AI mandates with impossible b...

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29:00

The agent wasteland, federated workflows, and a...

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2026/03/06

Has the cost of software development officially dropped below the minimum wage? Andrew and Ben examine this economic shift alongside the rapid open-source growth and security implications of the OpenClaw project. They also explore Steve Yegge's concept of a federated wasteland for orchestrators and how the new Perplexity Computer is stepping up to act as a persistent, always-on digital coworker. Follow the show: Subscribe to our Substack Follow us on LinkedInSubscribe to our YouTube Chan...

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41:58

How monday.com paused its roadmap for 30 days to hit...

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2026/03/03

Pausing a product roadmap for an entire month to point 700 engineers at a single goal is a significant structural shift, but it transformed monday.com. Andrew sits down with VP of R&D Sergei Liakhovetsky to uncover how fixing core infrastructure and adopting a cell-based architecture paved the way for platform scale. Sergei details the exact framework his leadership team used during their 30-day pause to launch user solutions while maintaining a strict zero-bureaucracy policy. The convers...

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25:59

Draining the COBOL moat, cybersecurity inequalities,...

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2026/02/27

Andrew and Ben break down a busy week on the Friday Deploy, starting with the market reaction to new COBOL tools and the permissions oversights that led to recent outages at AWS. They also explore the shifting landscape of developer productivity studies, the security risks of cloud-hosted agents, and the latest cybersecurity takeaways from the International AI Safety report. Finally, they close out the episode by checking in on a retired Claude model that was given a blog. Follow the show: Su...

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37:33

Your keyboard is the real bottleneck | Wispr’s Sahaj...

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2026/02/24

Your keyboard is the biggest bottleneck in your engineering workflow. This week, Andrew sits down with Wispr co-founder and CTO Sahaj Garg to discuss why traditional voice dictation failed us, and how his team is rebuilding trust by using contextual models to capture a developer's raw intent rather than treating speech models as "dumb" tools that just produce literal transcripts. Together, they explore the engineering hurdles of translating a messy stream of consciousness into perfectly forma...

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23:34

Outcome engineering, AI hit pieces, and the end of...

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2026/02/20

Is the traditional engineering backlog officially a thing of the past? Andrew and Ben explore the principles of outcome engineering and how continuous productivity is permanently changing how software gets built. They also examine a busy week of industry news, from Peter Steinberger joining OpenAI to the amusing and bewildering story of a hit piece written by an autonomous AI agent. Finally, the hosts break down the existential crises of Gemini 3 Pro inside a virtual village and why Meta prod...

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46:34

Dex Horthy on Ralph, RPI, and escaping the "Dumb Zone"

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2026/02/17

When the Ralph autonomous loop was born, Dex Horthy was "in the garden," witnessing the spark that set the AI engineering community on fire. Andrew sits down with the HumanLayer founder to discuss how to escape the "Dumb Zone" by applying his strict RPI (Research, Plan, Implement) methodology - a process that forces agents to generate intermediate design artifacts and align on architectural decisions before writing a single line of code. They also break down the brutal economics of agentic co...

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30:56

Breaking GitHub, AI vampires & the great Oz | Warp’s...

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2026/02/13

Did AI agents just DDoS GitHub? Andrew and Ben are joined by Warp Founder and CEO Zach Lloyd to discuss the massive strain agentic workflows are putting on our infrastructure and why the "Monday Morning Commit Spike" is the new normal. They also dive into Steve Yegge’s reflective piece on the "AI Vampire" and the economic pressure on developers to output 10x results without 10x pay. Finally, Zach unveils "Oz," Warp's new platform designed to move agents off your laptop and into the cloud for ...

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34:11

Multi-agent orchestration in Slack | Saleforce's...

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2026/02/10

Is Slack just a chat app, or is it becoming the command line for the agentic future? Andrew sits down with Kurtis Kemple, Senior Director of DevRel at Slack, to discuss the platform's evolution into an "agentic work operating system" where humans and bots collaborate in real-time. They explore the concept of "leaky prompts," how to harness unstructured chat data to drive automation, and share practical advice on how engineering leaders can start deploying their own custom agents to reclaim th...

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45:40

Moltbook, Rent-a-Human, Super Agents & Connectivity...

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2026/02/07

What happens when 1.7 million autonomous agents build their own social network and start hiring humans for physical labor? Andrew and Ben break down the most surreal week in AI history - from the Moltbook social network to the Rent-a-Human marketplace - and debate whether vibe coding is killing open source. Later, they sit down with Gary Lerhaupt, VP of Product Architecture at Salesforce, to discuss the new Connectivity Benchmark report, why monolithic agents are an anti-pattern, and how "Sup...

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