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Our Curious Amalgam

American Bar Association

Our Curious Amalgam explores topics in antitrust, competition, consumer protection, data protection, and privacy law around the world with leading experts in those areas. It is an amalgam because it is a group of diverse topics all in one place. It is curious because it gets the experts and asks them in-depth questions.

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32:08

#292 Thinking About Going Small? Starting Up a Solo...

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2024/09/23

Can a Big Law antitrust practitioner have a successful career as a solo or small firm lawyer? In this episode, antitrust trial lawyer Sean Gates and co-hosts Alicia Downey and Matt Reynolds talk about their experiences leaving large firms to strike out on their own in the middle of their careers. Listen to this episode to learn what motivated them to "go small," and why antitrust law offers unique challenges, opportunities, and rewards to those looking for an alternative to Big Law practice. With

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31:52

#291 How Was Your Life In Antitrust? A Conversation...

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2024/09/16

What were the cases and controversies that defined a decades-long career as an antitrust lawyer and scholar? Hosts Alicia Downey and Subrata Bhattacharjee welcome former Antitrust Law Section Chair Jon Jacobson back to the podcast to talk about his newly-published memoir of the highs and lows of litigating some of the biggest antitrust cases in U.S. legal history. Listen to this episode to learn how trial lawyers like Jon have helped to shape U.S. competition law and public policy. With special

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31:46

#290 Who Is Aviva Will? Antitrust Lawyer and...

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2024/09/09

Antitrust and competition lawyers have a choice of career paths, including private practice, in-house, and public sector. What about the increasingly-important area of litigation finance? Aviva Will, Co-Chief Operating Officer of Burford Capital, joins Alicia Downey and Matthew Hall to discuss her career journey from a law firm to a senior executive role at a publicly traded, global litigation finance company. Listen to this episode to learn more about Aviva's current role, the evolution of the

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23:43

#289 Is the Failing Firm Defense Thriving? Assessing...

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2024/09/02

The failing firm defense can be viewed skeptically when put forward by merging parties. But when can it be used successfully to save a deal that may otherwise be found to be anticompetitive? Chris Wilson, partner in the antitrust group of Paul Weiss, joins Jaclyn Phillips and Anora Wang to discuss the current state of the failing firm defense. Listen to this episode if you want to learn more about recent cases and what facts may make a failing firm defense thrive. With special guest: Christopher M

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23:19

#288 Who Is Steve Cernak? Meet the 2024-25 Chair of...

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2024/08/26

The Antitrust Law Section's new Chair is a lawyer, professor, and author of countless books and articles, with decades of leadership experience in the Section. What changes will he bring? In this episode, co-hosts Alicia Downey and Puja Patel ask Steve Cernak about his unusual career path, the priorities and initiatives he is planning to pursue in his one-year term, and the legal trends that he believes will affect the Section's members and their clients. Listen to this episode to get to know Steve

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27:07

#287 How Should We Protect Children’s Online Privacy?...

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2024/08/19

Most agree that children's online privacy is important. But how should it be protected? Ryan Durrie, Associate Director of the Cordell Institute at Washington University in St. Louis, joins Christina Ma and Anora Wang to discuss how the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (or COPPA) protects online privacy today and how it could be reformed. Listen to this episode if you want to learn about the latest policy developments in online privacy. With special guest: Ryan Durrie, Associate Director,

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35:09

#286 What Are the Perils of Privacy Law? Evolutions...

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2024/08/12

Privacy law has become increasingly relevant and important with the advent of the internet and all things digital and most agree that these laws should protect children's privacy, in particular. But what are the tradeoffs? James Cooper, Professor of Law and Economics at Scalia Law School at George Mason University, joins Christina Ma and Anora Wang to discuss the Children's Online Privacy and Protection Act, proposed changes to the rules enforcing the Act, and the potential tradeoffs to certain

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41:03

#285 Is It All Connected? Exploring Cross-Market...

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2024/08/05

Federal and State antitrust authorities have started to take closer looks into mergers of hospitals that are in different geographic areas. What are the theories of harm behind such investigations, and what does the economics literature have to say about those cross-market theories? Join Anora Wang and Jeny Maier as they hear from leading healthcare economist Cory Capps about recent academic research and agency activities on this front. Listen to this episode if you want to learn more about

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23:27

#284 How Do We Measure Innovation? The Economic...

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2024/07/29

When analyzing the competitive effects of a proposed transaction, the U.S. antitrust agencies may attempt to define and assess the potential loss of innovation in a relevant market. But what exactly is "innovation," and how can potential losses (or gains) in innovation be measured? In this episode Alicia Downey and Lijun Zhang speak with Cornerstone Research economist Penka Kovacheva about how economists are attempting to measure the impact of mergers on innovation, with a focus on the

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40:32

#283 Who Should Competition Law Work For? Enforcement...

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2024/07/22

Labour markets are in the focus of competition law regulators worldwide and companies and their advisers need to know what the issues are. What is the situation in the EU and its member states? Johanna Kübler, partner at German competition law firm Commeo, joins Jaclyn Phillips and Matthew Hall to discuss the background to this current focus in the EU, the legal rules that apply, the current status of leading investigations and key practical compliance messages. Listen to this episode to learn more

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28:32

#282 Has the Scrutiny Reached a Fever Pitch? Taking...

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2024/07/15

Private equity and health care are important aspects of the U.S. economy. Why are antitrust enforcers focused on the intersection of these two areas? Carla Hine, an antitrust attorney well-versed in both industries, joins Jaclyn Phillips and Jeny Maier to discuss the role PE plays in health care transactions and what antitrust enforcers' recent focus means for such transactions. Listen to this episode to learn more about everything from the benefits of PE investment to legal theories underlying the

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29:39

#281 What Are the Australian Competition and Consumer...

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2024/07/08

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission's enforcement and policy priorities for 2024-2025 reflect a focus on a wide range of conduct in many industries. What does this mean for practitioners, market participants, and consumers in Australia? Peta Stevenson, a competition attorney with more than two decades of experience, joins Jaclyn Phillips and Anant Raut to discuss the takeaways and implications. Listen to this episode to learn more about competition enforcement in Australia. With

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01:00:05

#280 Does the FTC Ban Get It Right or Go Too Far?...

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2024/07/01

The Federal Trade Commission's non-compete ban has stirred vigorous discussion in the antitrust bar and beyond. What do economic theory and empirical analysis tell us about the effects of non-competes, and whether a ban is justified? Economists Evan Starr and Brian Albrecht join co-hosts Sergei Zaslavsky and Anora Wang to debate the state of economic evidence on non-competes, the implications for policy, and what we still have to learn. Listen to this episode, which also aired as a live ABA program,

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28:33

#279 How Does U.S. Law Promote Competition in...

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2024/06/24

The preservation of competition in agricultural markets has been identified as as one of the Biden Administration's highest enforcement priorities. In this episode, co-hosts Alicia Downey and Barry Nigro talk to Professor Kelly Nuckolls of the University of Arkansas School of Law about recent enforcement actions and rulemaking efforts targeting anticompetitive practices in the agriculture sector. Listen to this episode to learn about the DOJ Antitrust Division's case against benchmarking service

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33:46

#278 Who Is Krisztian Katona? Meet an International...

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2024/06/17

Not many antitrust lawyers have a front row seat to competition law and policy around the globe. But have you met Krisztian Katona? Krisztian Katona, an international competition lawyer, speaks with Anora Wang and Jaclyn Phillips about the trajectory of his career, insights about competition law and trends, and how the ABA provides opportunities for international lawyers. With special guest: Krisztian Katona, Computer & Communications Industry Association Hosted by: Anora Wang, Arnold & Porter Kaye

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41:26

#277 Still Going Strong at 20? A Conversation With...

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2024/06/10

The EU's merger control law--the Merger Regulation--was revised in 2004, and 2024 is therefore the 20th anniversary of the changes. What prompted those changes? Sir Philip Lowe, Director-General of the European Commission's Directorate-General for Competition from 2002-2010, joins Matthew Reynolds and Matthew Hall to discuss the background to the changes and what else in EU merger control changed at the time. Listen to this episode to learn more about the basis for the current EU regime and Sir

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28:06

#276 Does a Year Make a Difference? The Regulation of...

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2024/06/03

An important component of U.S. consumer protection law includes the regulation of endorsements, a form of advertising where someone other than the seller of a product or service—such as an athlete, a celebrity, or an influencer—is compensated to promote that product or service. In this episode, co-hosts Alicia Downey and Matt Reynolds talk to consumer protection lawyer Caiti Zeytoonian about the Federal Trade Commission’s Guides Concerning the Use of Endorsements and Testimonials in Advertising,

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29:27

#275 What's Happening in New Zealand, Israel, and...

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2024/05/27

While on site at the ABA Antitrust Law Section's Annual Spring Meeting in April 2024, the Our Curious Amalgam team sat down with competition regulators from around the world to talk about their current and future enforcement priorities. We also got to know them a little better as people. In this episode, Alicia Downey finds out what's happening in New Zealand with Andrew Riseley, the General Counsel and General Manager of the Legal Services branch of the New Zealand Commerce Commission. Following

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31:34

#274 What's Happening in Hong Kong and Japan?...

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2024/05/20

In April 2024, the Our Curious Amalgam team interviewed international competition law regulators while on site at the ABA Antitrust Law Section's Annual Spring Meeting in Washington, D.C. In this episode, Anora Wang talks to Samuel Chan, Chairman of the Hong Kong Competition Commission, and Commissioner Reiko Aoki of the Japan Fair Trade Commission. Listen to what they had to say about their respective agencies' major achievements of the past year and current and future enforcement priorities, while

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42:49

#273 What’s Happening in France, Portugal, and...

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2024/05/13

The 2024 edition of the ABA Antitrust Law Section’s Spring Meeting in Washington, D.C., offered the Our Curious Amalgam team a chance to speak with competition law regulators from around the world. While on site at the meeting, we sat down with several of them to discuss their enforcement priorities and other issues, while also getting to know them a little better as people. This episode features interviews conducted by three of our OCA hosts. First, Anora Wang discovers what's happening in France

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