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Our Curious Amalgam

American Bar Association

Our Curious Amalgam explores topics in antitrust, competition, consumer protection, data protection, and privacy law around the world with leading experts in those areas. It is an amalgam because it is a group of diverse topics all in one place. It is curious because it gets the experts and asks them in-depth questions.

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28:47

#352 Is There a New Playbook for Merger Remedies?...

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2025/11/17

Antitrust enforcers have grown increasingly skeptical of merger remedies over time, but their approach varies with each administration. Where do antitrust enforcers in the second Trump administration stand on merger remedies? Adam Di Vincenzo, an antitrust deal lawyer, joins Amanda Hamilton and Jaclyn Phillips to discuss these shifts and offers practical advice for proposing merger remedies given the current landscape. Listen for insights on recent merger settlements and best practices for proposing

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38:03

#351 How Should Intent Apply in Competition Law? A...

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2025/11/10

The concept of intent is usually considered of little relevance to EU competition law enforcement and practice. But is that the reality and should this change? Maya-Salomé Garnier, lecturer at Aix-Marseille University, joins Matthew Hall and Alysha Pannu to discuss her book "Intent in Competition Law", which is the published version of her 2023 PhD thesis. Listen to this episode to learn more about the real role of intent in competition law and how an understanding of this can be used in practice

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28:23

#350 What's the Deal With Reverse Acquihires?...

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2025/11/03

Reverse acquihires are turning traditional merger dynamics on their head, raising fresh questions for dealmakers and regulators alike. But what exactly are the antitrust and HSR implications when talent, not technology or assets, drives the transaction? Sam Weinstein, Professor of Law at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law, joins hosts Lexi Michaud and Anant Raut to unpack how reverse acquihires fit within existing merger frameworks, what, if anything, triggers reporting obligations, and where

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28:33

#349 What's the Price Tag on Privacy? Turning Data...

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2025/10/27

Privacy litigation in the U.S. is at an all-time high owing in part to the growing body of privacy laws, particularly at the state level. But are there unique challenges associated with litigating privacy breaches? Dr. Andrew Stiver joins Jaclyn Phillips and Alysha Pannu to discuss privacy harms and how economic harm is measured for these harms. Listen to this episode if you want to learn more about how privacy harms are quantified in the context of litigation. With special guest: Dr. Andrew

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23:17

#348 Why Some Retail Deals Get Deeper Scrutiny? An...

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2025/10/20

In recent years, retail mergers have gotten more attention as consumers have grown more concerned with consolidation and how that impacts their pocketbooks. While antitrust enforcers scrutinize all retail mergers, not all have gotten a deeper look. How do enforcers decide which retail deals require deeper scrutiny? Emily Blackburn, Counsel at King & Spalding, and Laura Onken, Counsel at Axinn discusses their observations and insights on how enforcers analyze retail deals with Amanda Hamilton and

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32:44

#347 Where Do We Draw the Line? The Intersection of...

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2025/10/13

The Noerr-Pennington doctrine is rooted in the First Amendment, and exempts certain activities involving petitioning the government from the normal rules of antitrust enforcement. But where do we draw the line on what activity is and is not protected? Abraham Chang, partner at Norton Rose Fulbright, joins Derek Jackson and Sergei Zaslavsky to discuss the Noerr-Pennington doctrine's roots, its limits, and how it gets applied (and sometimes litigated) in practice. Listen to this episode to learn more

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31:00

#346 Who Is Elizabeth Odette? Meet the Chair of...

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2025/10/06

State attorneys general are playing an increasingly important role in investigating and challenging antitrust violations that affect their constituents. In this episode, co-hosts James Hunsberger and Alicia Downey find out what the National Association of Attorneys General's Multistate Antitrust Task Force has been up to under the leadership of Task Force Chair Elizabeth Odette of the Office of the Attorney General of Minnesota. Listen and learn how the Task Force has been helping states save

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23:00

#345 Who Is Renata Hesse? Meet the 2025-26 Antitrust...

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2025/09/29

August marks the beginning of a new ABA Antitrust Law Section year under the leadership of a new Chair. In this episode, co-hosts Anora Wang and Alicia Downey talk with Sullivan & Cromwell partner Renata Hesse, a longtime Section leader whose term as Chair began in August 2025. Our other featured guest is Renata's colleague Dan Richardson, who supports Renata as Counsel to the Chair. Listen to this episode to hear about Renata's priorities and goals for the 2025-26 year, and her commitment to

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34:25

#344 What Happens When Antitrust Lawyers Form a Bar...

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2025/09/22

Antitrust lawyers by day, rock stars by night. Who are the members of Side Hustle, the Antitrust Law Section’s unofficial house band? They include prominent members of the antitrust law community, with more than a century of combined experience working in government, private practice, and academia. In this episode we’ll learn what has kept Side Hustle rocking on for the past several years and why the members can't wait to play at the 2026 Spring Meeting. With special guests: Daniel Francis,

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40:18

#343 FTC v. DOJ: Who Wore It Better?

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2025/09/15

Why does the U.S. have two antitrust enforcement agencies—and how do they really differ in practice? In this episode, Puja Patel and Barry Nigro are joined by Debbie Majoras, former FTC Chair and former Deputy Assistant Attorney General at the DOJ Antitrust Division, to explore the procedural, cultural, and strategic distinctions between the FTC and DOJ. From procedural standards to enforcement style, merger review processes, and even remedy structures, Debbie reflects on her leadership experience

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29:54

#342 Can Antitrust Be More Innovation-Centric? An...

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2025/09/08

Innovation is central to long-term economic welfare and deserves greater emphasis in antitrust policy. But can U.S. antitrust law be reshaped to be more innovation-centric? Professor Richard Gilbert joins hosts Anora Wang and Panos Dimitrellos to examine the relationship between competition and innovation, how agencies and courts have recently treated innovation, and practical tools for assessing innovation effects in mergers and conduct cases. Listen to this episode to learn more about navigating

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41:36

#341 How Should Killer Acquisitions Be Assessed? A...

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2025/09/01

Merger control regulators in the EU and around the world continue to focus on killer acquisitions. But is this concern justified in the digital sector? Professor Nicolas Petit, a leading competition law academic, joins Matthew Hall and Blair Matthews to discuss the Antitrust Law Journal article on the subject he co-authored and killer acquisitions generally. Listen to this episode to learn more about the methodology behind and findings in the paper and why the concerns on this issue may not be

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26:11

#340 How Do You Win (and Not Lose) a Merger Trial?

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2025/08/25

Merger litigation is fast, high-stakes, and often unpredictable. So what does it take to win—or avoid losing—when the government challenges a deal? In this episode, Puja Patel and James Hunsberger are joined by Kieran Gostin, a partner at Wilkinson Stekloff and a seasoned merger trial lawyer who helped Microsoft defeat the FTC in its challenge to the Activision acquisition. From trial preparation strategy to expert witness credibility, internal documents versus economic modeling, and real-world

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34:56

#339 How Do Presidents Shape Antitrust? The Oval...

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2025/08/18

Antitrust enforcement can change dramatically between Presidential administrations. What makes the political winds flip between more and less enforcement? In this episode, former Deputy Assistant Attorney General Michael Kades joins hosts Anant Raut and Anna Olson to step back and draw insightful themes from the history of antitrust enforcement across Presidential administrations. With special guest: Michael Kades, Partner, Nachawati Law Group Hosted by: Anant Raut and Anna Olson

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21:38

#338 How Clean Are Your Claims? Understanding the New...

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2025/08/11

Among the recent amendments to Canada's Competition Act are new provisions targeting so-called “greenwashing,” i.e., misleading claims in advertising regarding the environmental benefits of a product. In a related development, the Competition Bureau has issued guidelines concerning its enforcement approach to environmental claims under the new law. What will be the impact of the changes on companies and consumers? In this episode, Alicia Downey and Anora Wang talk to Canadian consumer protection

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35:48

#337 What Are the Risks of a Minority Shareholding?...

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2025/08/04

In June 2025, the European Commission announced a decision under which it fined two competing online food delivery companies a combined total of €329 million for cartel behaviour that took place while one company held a minority stake in the other company. The infringing behaviour included, among other things, exchanging competitively sensitive information “beyond what was needed for a corporate investor to protect a financial investment decision.” Does the Delivery Hero/Glovo decision suggest that

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38:57

#336 What Are the Risks of Serial Acquisitions?...

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2025/07/28

There is a growing interest in understanding the economics of serial acquisitions, particularly in the healthcare industries and markets, and whether such corporate strategies lead to changes in prices and quality causing antitrust concerns. What has been found in existing economic studies? Paul Eliason, Assistant Professor of Economics at Brigham Young University and co-author of a leading study on serial acquisitions focusing on the dialysis industry, discusses his observations and insights with

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34:07

#335 Are You Ready To Respond? Developments in...

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2025/07/21

The "dawn raid" is one of the rare moments of high drama in the work of many competition lawyers. How can you be prepared when that early-morning phone call or text from a client comes? Ashley Latham, an antitrust and government investigations litigator with Linklaters LLP, joins Matthew Hall and Matt Reynolds for a discussion of current "dawn raid" trends in the U.S. and the European Union. Tune in to learn more about what questions to ask, what issues to raise, and what you can do to help clients

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27:35

#334 What’s the Word on Wage-Fixing? Cracking Down on...

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2025/07/14

The U.S. Department of Justice has made it clear that some agreements among competing employers regarding workers’ salaries or other terms of compensation--so-called “wage-fixing agreements”--may be subject to criminal prosecution. What kind of conduct falls within the scope of wage-fixing? In this episode, hosts Alicia Downey and Blair Matthews talk to Crowell & Moring partner and former senior DOJ prosecutor Ken Dintzer about the latest developments on the wage-fixing front, including the first

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38:58

#333 Is Antitrust Fashionable This Season? Antitrust...

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2025/07/07

What happens when antitrust law meets high fashion? In this episode, experienced fashion and luxury industry counsel Andowah Newton, joins Jeny Maier and Puja Patel to unpack recent antitrust cases in the luxury and fashion industries. From the FTC’s challenge to Tapestry’s acquisition of Capri, to no-poach allegations involving Saks and major fashion houses, to tying claims against Hermès and its coveted Birkin bag, we explore how competition law is colliding with market definition, exclusivity,

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