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No Way Out

Mark McGrath and Brian "Ponch" Rivera

No Way Out: The #1 Podcast on John Boyd’s OODA Loop, The Flow System, and Navigating UncertaintySponsored by AGLX — a global network powering adaptive leadership, enterprise agility, and resilient teams in complex, high-stakes environments.Home to the deepest explorations of Colonel John R. Boyd’s OODA Loop (Observe–Orient–Decide–Act), Destruction and Creation, Patterns of Conflict — and the official voice of The Flow System, the modern evolution of Boyd’s ideas into complex adaptive systems,

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72:06

How Fat Leonard Breached the Navy's OODA Loop with...

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2024/10/23

Send us a textIn this episode of No Way Out, investigative journalist Tom Wright joins us to dissect the infamous Fat Leonard scandal, a dark chapter in U.S. Navy history where corruption, manipulation, and ethical breaches were exposed on a massive scale. Leonard Francis, the Malaysian contractor at the heart of the scandal, exploited systemic weaknesses in Navy operations, unraveling how deep-rooted issues in military culture can jeopardize national security.Tom Wright, Ponch (a retired Nav...

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88:35

A Daughter’s Perspective: Unpacking John Boyd's...

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2024/10/15

Send us a textCurious about how the legendary military strategist John Boyd shaped the world of aviation and beyond? Join us for an engaging conversation with Mary Boyd, who offers a captivating glimpse into growing up with such an influential father. Through her unique perspective, we explore the untold stories of John Boyd's life, his foundational work on the OODA loop, and the challenges of preserving his legacy. Mary’s dedication to digitizing her father's work, ensuring his uncopyrighted...

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83:04

Mastering the Medium with Andrew McLuhan

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2024/10/09

Send us a textWhat happens when you blend the strategic brilliance of John Boyd with the transformative media insights of Marshall McLuhan? We promise you'll gain a fresh perspective on decision-making and media effects. This episode features an enlightening conversation with Andrew McLuhan, who shares the legacy of his grandfather, Marshall McLuhan, while exploring the powerful synergy between Boyd’s OODA “loop” sketch and the groundbreaking theories of media as “extensions of man.” Our disc...

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121:10

PsyWar with Dr. Robert W. Malone

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2024/10/03

Send us a textIt's time to favor Respectful Truth Over Bias-Driven Coherence. In what might be our most important conversation yet, we sit down with Dr. Robert Malone—renowned expert in virology, vaccines, and now, fifth-generation warfare. In this episode, Dr. Malone shares insights to the critical topics covered in his and his wife’s upcoming book, PsyWar: Enforcing the New World Order.Listeners will get an exclusive first look into Dr. Malone's thoughts on:The evolution of warfare, f...

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30:39

PsyWar Primer: Liminal Warfare, Flow, 5GW, Sun Tzu...

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2024/09/30

Send us a textHey No Way Out listeners!We’re thrilled to bring you this exclusive primer episode for our highly anticipated conversation with Dr. Robert Malone. This mashup episode is your gateway to the upcoming deep-dive discussion on Dr. Malone and his wife’s new book, PsyWar: Enforcing the New World Order.What’s Inside?This special mashup includes invaluable insights from some of our top No Way Out guests like David Kilcullen, PhD, James Giordano, PhD, Adrian Bejan, PhD, Michael Ashley, a...

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89:57

Unplugged: Information Abundance and Digital Detox...

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2024/09/25

Send us a textTransform your relationship with information and reclaim your focus in today’s digital age! Join us for a thought-provoking conversation with Michael Gummerin, an expert who has spent the last four years coaching individuals on how to manage their information diets. Michael introduces his groundbreaking low information one-day detox, showcasing how a shift from mere observation to true orientation can fundamentally enhance our decision-making processes. Discover the structured s...

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67:22

Reimagining Neurodiversity: From Isolation to...

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2024/09/17

Send us a textWhat if your child’s unique way of seeing the world could be their greatest strength? Join us for a heartwarming dive into neurodivergence and the environments that help everyone thrive. Our guest, Sarah Kernion, founder and CEO of Saturday's Story, is a global keynote speaker and neurodiversity advocate. She’s also a mother of three, including two children with non-speaking autism. Sarah believes in “choosing interaction over isolation,” a lesson she drew from John Boyd’s brief...

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75:00

Market VUCA: Reorienting in the New World Economy...

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2024/09/03

Send us a textPhilippe Gijsels, Chief Strategy Officer, BNP Paribas Fortis joins Moose and Ponch on this episode of No Way Out. The conversation explores the concept of volatility, uncertainty, complexity, and ambiguity (VUCA) and how it relates to investing and trend following. The analogy of surfing waves is used to describe the approach to navigating these challenges. The importance of having a disciplined approach and following objective rules is emphasized. The discussion also touches on...

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65:10

Lesson NOT Learned: Illegal Mandates with Col (Ret.)...

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2024/08/26

Send us a textThe conversation examines military anthrax vaccine mandates and draws parallels to COVID-19 vaccine mandates. "No Way Out" welcomes special co-host Matthew "Whiz" Buckley, host of the "No Fallen Heroes Max Afterburner" podcast, along with Tom "Buzz" Rempfer, to dissect the contentious issues surrounding vaccine mandates. Utilizing their backgrounds in fighter aviation and operational risk management, these former TOPGUNs explain how concepts like John Boyd's OODA loop have ...

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68:55

Building Snowmobiles: John Boyd's 1992 Commencement...

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2024/08/12

Send us a Text Message.The conversation explores John Boyd's early life in Erie, Pennsylvania, and his connection to Strong Vincent High School. The discussion is enriched by guest Mark Squeglia a lifelong Erie, PA resident and recently featured speaker in the PBS episode "Chronicles: John Boyd and his OODA Loop." Mark Squeglia details Boyd's upbringing, the influences that shaped his strategic mind, and his contributions to military tactics and broader applications in business and complex sy...

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59:32

Clean Slate: The Psychedelic Revolution in Healthcare...

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2024/08/09

Send us a Text Message.Maria Velkova, managing partner of Tabula Rasa Ventures, discusses the use of psychedelics in therapy and the work her organization is doing to support the space. She explains that psychedelic-assisted therapy is a novel care delivery model that combines traditional therapy with the use of psychedelic medicines. Velkova emphasizes the efficacy of these therapies, particularly for veterans who have high unmet needs. She also discusses the history of psychedelics and the ...

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75:46

Inside the Psychedelic Therapy Movement: A Veteran’s...

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2024/08/01

Send us a Text Message.Can the war on drugs be responsible for the stigmatization of psychedelic therapies? Join us as we unravel the deep-seated impact of 1980s media and government campaigns on Generation X's perception of drugs, and how it contrasts with the evolving acceptance of psychedelics today. From Miami Vice to DARE, we navigate through a labyrinth of mixed messages, revealing the geopolitical motives behind the war on drugs and its ramifications on public opinion. Hear our candid ...

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81:26

Psychedelics and Sensemaking with Alexander Beiner

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2024/07/29

Send us a Text Message.What if the key to understanding our complex world lies in altered states of consciousness? Join us as we sit down with Alexander Beiner, author of "The Bigger Picture: How Psychedelics Can Help Us Make Sense of the World," and episode co-host Sonja Blignaut, for a compelling conversation on the intersection of psychedelics, sensemaking, and extended states of consciousness. Discover how traditional shamanic practices and modern research shared by the likes of Stephen K...

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87:37

OODA Economics: Market Mind Hypothesis with Patrick...

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2024/07/17

Send us a Text Message.Unlock the mysteries of the market's collective consciousness with 'pracademic' Patrick Skotanis, as we navigate the Market Mind Hypothesis, blending cognitive science with the rhythmic pulsations of financial markets. This episode promises a revolution in your understanding of economic agents, far from the usual depiction as emotionless automatons, and instead as components of a living, breathing organism. We bridge the gap between the pioneering ideas of John Boyd, Ka...

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90:40

Westrum's World: Culture, Information Flow and...

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2024/07/09

Send us a Text Message.The conversation with Ron Westrum, PhD, covers various topics related to innovation and the development of the AIM-9 Sidewinder missile. The discussion highlights the importance of smart knowledge and the challenges of implementing innovative ideas within bureaucratic systems. It also explores the concept of Skunk Works and the need for a conducive environment for innovation to thrive. The conversation touches on the role of information flow, collaboration, and competit...

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82:01

Flow: The Essence of Winning and Learning with Sue...

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2024/07/02

Send us a Text Message.Whether you're a coach, athlete, parent, or a fan of sports excellence, this episode promises to ignite your drive and equip you with the tools to chase your own version of greatness. Explore the cutting-edge intersection of sports science and leadership, where flow (peak performance) is within reach. From wearable tech analogous to an F1 dashboard to the cultural integration of healthy habits, Sue dives into athlete optimization. Key discussions on self-awareness ...

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73:00

Maverick Spine: The Physical & Mental Costs of...

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2024/06/12

What if high G-force maneuvers could destroy a pilot's spine? Tune in as we explore the severe physical and mental challenges faced by fighter pilots during extreme aerial maneuvers. We tackle the critical issue of spine health, examining how intense compression and strain impact the cervical and lumbar regions. We also discuss the stark differences between older and newer aircraft designs that attempt to mitigate these effects. Our conversation ties in John Boyd's OODA loop, focusing on how ...

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87:23

MICC Reformers: Sprey, Boyd, Spinney, Kay, Christie...

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2024/06/03

MICC: Military Industrial Congressional Complex What happens when military reformers and visionary designers join forces to create an aircraft that's both a formidable war machine and a testament to innovative thinking? In this episode, we uncover the riveting story behind the development of the A-10 Warthog, an aircraft that's as iconic as it is effective. Listen to Hal Sundt, author of "Warplane," as he shares his journey from an airplane enthusiast to a writer captivated by the p...

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90:35

Reorienting Trauma: Psychedelic Healing for Veterans...

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2024/05/27

Stay in the LoopThe conversation explores the world of psychedelic-assisted therapies and their potential benefits for veterans and individuals with PTSD. The guests, Trevor Millar and Jonathan Dickinson, share their experiences and insights into the use of psychedelics, particularly Ibogaine, in treating addiction and trauma. They discuss the role of orientation, including culture, genetics, and previous experiences, in shaping our perception and response to trauma. The conversation also tou...

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71:11

Psychedelics: From Mind Control to Mind Expansion...

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2024/05/13

In this intriguing episode of "No Way Out," we explore the multifaceted world of psychedelics, emphasizing LSD's historical context, its paradoxical effects against the intended mind control, and its profound cultural impact. We begin with Norman Ohler's insights into Nazi Germany's foray into drug use and how this dark heritage influenced American intelligence agendas, specifically the CIA’s MK-Ultra program. As the discussion unfolds, the irony of LSD as a tool for mind liberation, rather t...

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