The Rollup

00:59:54

Chronicle CEO: RWAs Will Lead The Next Bull Market...

The Rollup ·

2026/07/08

Niklas Kunkel breaks down the strange divergence between record institutional bullishness on digital assets and the apathy in digital asset-native circles. He also details Chronicle's path to becoming the leading oracle, the mechanics of an upcoming token, and why the next phase of tokenization is just beginning.Niklas Kunkel is the Founder and CEO of Chronicle Labs, the oracle infrastructure that spun out of MakerDAO and now secures over $16 billion in onchain assets for institutions including

en-us

00:30:21

Gracy Chen: Tokenized Equity Is The Next Biggest...

The Rollup ·

2026/07/05

Gracy Chen breaks down how Bitget evolved into a universal platform offering tokenized stocks, ETFs, bonds, forex, and pre-IPO positions, shares the 10% vision she pitched to BlackRock CEO Rob Goldstein, and explains why stablecoin issuers and Solana's RWA positioning are the biggest winners of the tokenization wave. One of the most globally-minded CEO perspectives we've had on the show.Gracy Chen is CEO of Bitget, one of the world's largest global digital assets exchanges offering

en-us

00:28:34

AntSeed Founder: The AI Inference Boom That Is Set To...

The Rollup ·

2026/07/03

Amos joins us to break down why inference is the new oil and companies will hedge inference costs the same way airlines hedge jet fuel, why AntSeed is open router without open router in the middle, and why all network revenue goes to buy and burn with no company capturing value. 14 years in crypto. This is what he's building next.Amos Meiri is Co-Founder of AntSeed, an open-source P2P marketplace for AI inference, and a 14-year crypto veteran who helped build colored coins alongside Vitalik

en-us

00:16:47

Vladimir Novakovski: The Rise of Perps In Mainstream...

The Rollup ·

2026/07/02

Yesterday Robinhood hosted their “The World is Flat” event where they announced the Robinhood chain mainnet & deepened relationship with Lighter, amidst many other digital asset focused initiatives. Lighter was named the official perps partner of Robinhood and will be directly integrated within the Robinhood wallet.Vladimir Novakovski is CEO and Co-Founder of Lighter, a decentralized perpetual exchange with an institutional-grade security-first architecture.The Rollup is where the leaders of

en-us

00:43:52

VirtualBacon: The Next Bull Market Is Here (Full Thesis)

The Rollup ·

2026/07/01

VirtualBacon Dennis Liu breaks down why Bitcoin at 58K is deep value territory, why the four year cycle has repeated exactly as expected and isn't going anywhere, and why HYPE and Lighter are the cleanest expressions of the tokenization trade while ETH wins the underlying technology stack. Plus his hot take on MicroStrategy's real liquidation level and why the $1.25B Bitcoin sale is barely a rounding error.Dennis Liu is a digital assets trader and content creator widely known as

en-us

00:31:45

MoneyGram CEO: Tokenization & Stablecoins Are Set To...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/30

MoneyGram CEO Anthony Soohoo breaks down why launching MGUSD was a vertical integration play straight out of Apple's microprocessor playbook, why MoneyGram's 500,000 physical locations are an unbeatable moat in a stablecoin world, and why their new Kraken partnership lets anyone cash out crypto at a MoneyGram or Walmart location worldwide.Anthony Soohoo is Chairman and CEO of MoneyGram, a 500,000-location global payments and remittance network now building stablecoin infrastructure across

en-us

00:36:18

Portal VC Founder: How To Invest In A Post-AI World...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/28

Evan Fisher breaks down why blockchain is more analogous to legal technology than financial technology, why AI-proof moats in crypto are network effects, liquidity, and trust rather than code, and why momentum investors who mistake good metrics for durable value will be this cycle's biggest losers.Evan Fisher is Founder of Portal Ventures, a pre-seed blockchain investment firm managing $120M across two funds.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the

en-us

00:28:50

Fomo Co-Founder: The FOMO Bull Thesis For Trading...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/26

Se Yong Park breaks down why FOMO is building the trading app for the rest of us... any chain, any asset, never miss out again, why AI will commoditize content but can never commoditize money and risk, making social the most defensible moat in on-chain finance, and why FOMO raised $75M from Benchmark, Robinhood, and Coinbase without touching a single venture dollar before closing the round.Se Yong Park is Co-Founder of FOMO, a social trading app for on-chain assets built for everyone.The Rollup is

en-us

00:29:58

WalletConnect CEO: The WalletConnect Bull Thesis...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/23

Jess Houlgrave breaks down why 2026 is the year of non-USD stablecoins with USDC losing Mica compliance, 30 European banks now issuing a euro stablecoin, and HKD, JPY, SEK and CHF versions all coming to market. She covers WalletConnect's $6B per week in stablecoin volume, why broad asset support is the key to reducing merchant and much more.Jess Houlgrave is CEO of WalletConnect, the leading financial connectivity layer powering stablecoin payments across 700 wallets and hundreds of thousands of

en-us

00:28:12

Trace CEO: We Built A $10B Volume Stablecoin Company...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/21

Bernardo Brites breaks down why the Brazilian real is uniquely positioned for a stablecoin, why being pro-banking rather than anti-banking is the only path to the next hundreds of millions of stablecoin users, and how Trace processed $10B of payment volume on just $4M in seed capital before closing a $32M Series A.Bernardo Brites is Co-Founder of Trace Finance, a cross-border payments and stablecoin infrastructure platform for companies in Brazil, LatAm, and beyond.The Rollup is where the leaders of

en-us

00:51:00

Hester Peirce: The Positive Future of Digital Asset...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/19

SEC Commissioner Hester Peirce breaks down the state of digital asset regulation in the USA. She joins us to talk through the Rule 611 trade-through proposal that's been 20 years in the making, why the innovation exemption is deliberately narrow, her views on synthetic tokenized securities, and why self-custody and financial privacy are non-negotiable principles she wants embedded into every regulatory regime that follows. Hester Peirce is an SEC Commissioner and founder of the SEC's Crypto

en-us

00:32:00

Sam Boboev: The AI x Fintech Bull Case (My Full Thesis)

The Rollup ·

2026/06/17

Sam Boboev breaks down why stablecoins are the native currency of AI agents, why Mastercard's $1.8B blockchain acquisition and Visa's OpenAI partnership signal the payment giants have accepted their stablecoin future, and why the real killer use case for stablecoins isn't consumer payments.Sam Boboev is Founder of Fintech Wrap Up, a media and analytics platform covering AI, stablecoins, and the future of payments.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge

en-us

00:52:45

Alex Cutler: The Aerodrome Bull Thesis for 2026...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/16

Alexander Cutler breaks down the state of investing in tokens, why Aerodrome is already the number one onchain exchange for Bitcoin, Ethereum, and FX volume, why 100% value redistribution is the only sustainable moat in onchain finance just like Hyperliquid proved in derivatives, and why predictive allocation is an entirely new primitive that lets capital allocators bet on where liquidity needs to exist before demand ever arrives. Alexander Cutler is CEO of Dromos Labs and core contributor of

en-us

00:40:22

Inside NEAR: 10+ Years Building Toward the Agent...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/15

From pioneering the Transformer architecture now used in every AI stack to building the rails for the agent economy, NEAR Co-Founder Illia Polosukhin connects the full arc in this inaugural episode of “Inside NEAR,” a new quarterly series on The Rollup. Illia breaks down NEAR’s early architectural bets that are now paying off, why privacy had to be a base-layer choice, and how it all culminates in NEAR becoming AI money: the unit of account for inference, compute, and every agent-to-agent

en-us

00:45:39

Vladimir Novakovski: Lighter Bull Thesis For 2026...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/13

Vladimir Novakovski sits down with Andy & Robbie to break down the Lighter bull thesis from The Tokenization Tower in NYC. We discuss Lighter's escape hatch design that lets every participant exit through Ethereum even if the protocol fails, why the RFQ model is the key to bootstrapping liquidity for pre-IPO and RWA perps, and why getting Citadel and US institutional capital on chain is the biggest unlock the perp market hasn't hit yet. He's working with the CFTC to make that

en-us

00:36:24

David Schamis: HYPE Is The Best Asset In The World...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/11

David Schamis breaks down why PERE now holds over 10% of HYPE's circulating supply, why the Coinbase and Circle deal added $200M in annual buybacks that the market didn't price in for a full day, and why Hyperliquid's price discovery on Cerebus and SpaceX may make investment bankers irrelevant to the IPO process. David Schamis is CEO of Hyperliquid Strategies, a publicly traded company and one of the largest corporate holders of HYPE.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and

en-us

00:41:07

Jake Brukhman: Why Decentralized AI Is Set To Explode...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/10

Jake Brukman breaks down why a swarm of decentralized agents beat Google's quantum circuit research in a week, why decentralized training on consumer hardware is now provably cheaper than data centers, and why winning just 10% of AI training automatically locks in revenue from a $1 trillion inference market. He published this thesis in September 2022, before ChatGPT existed.Jake Brukman is Founder and CEO of CoinFund, an 11-year digital assets and decentralized AI investment firm.The Rollup is

en-us

00:30:19

Frax Founder: The Future Of Stablecoins & Onchain...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/09

Sam Kazemian breaks down why the Genius Act's 120-day default acceptance is the most bullish structural change for compliant stablecoins, why you can't vibe code liquidity or DeFi integrations regardless of AI, and why the stablecoin supply step function could arrive in 6 to 8 months.Sam Kazemian is Founder of Frax Finance, the protocol behind FRAX USD, a Genius-compliant decentralized stablecoin operating system.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live

en-us

00:38:12

DeFi Dad: The Ethereum Bull Thesis In 2026 (What's New)

The Rollup ·

2026/06/08

DeFi Dad breaks down why lighter's ETH escape hatch makes it the most underrated security feature versus HyperLiquid, why RWA tokenization will eventually eclipse all native crypto tokens by market cap, and why ETH staking yield is effectively the native T-bills rate of the entire DeFi economy. The most convicted ETH bull case you'll hear right now.DeFi Dad is one of the most prominent long-term ETH advocates and DeFi content creators in the space.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital

en-us

00:31:08

Haseeb Qureshi: The Meteoric Rise of Perps (And The...

The Rollup ·

2026/06/07

Dragonfly's Haseeb Qureshi breaks down why Bitcoin is not an honest macro asset, why domestic perps will disappoint compared to offshore, and why BNB has been outearning Hyperliquid for years yet nobody wants to talk about it. The most contrarian read on digital assets you'll hear this week.Haseeb Qureshi is Managing Partner at Dragonfly, a leading digital assets venture capital firm.The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of

en-us

All Episodes

Similar Podcasts

Lead With AI

Tamara Nall

Two Blokes Talking Tech

Trevor Long and Stephen Fenech

Pioneers of AI

WaitWhat

The Brave Technologist

Brave Software

The Good Tech Companies

HackerNoon