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Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein

In-depth interview podcast with leading corporate governance experts, including world-class founders, scholars, board members, executives, investors and more. The content is structured as a long-form conversation to explore not only the latest corporate governance trends, but also to get some personal insights from some of the best and brightest minds behind America"s boardrooms.

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00:51:01

Carol Hansell: Insights on Modern Governance

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/08/05

(0:00) Intro.(1:10) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(1:57) Start of interview. (2:30) Carol's origin story.(4:34) Evolution of corporate governance in Canada since the late 1980s. (5:51) The origin and focus of her firm Hansell McLaughlin Advisory Group, based in Canada.(10:13) On her personal board career and the benefits of lawyers serving on boards.(14:20) Best practices for board evaluations and distinctions between board education in Canada and the

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01:06:19

Oliver Cummings: Unlocking Boardroom Excellence -...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/07/29

(0:00) Intro.(1:20) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:07) Start of interview. (2:58) Oliver's origin story.(7:00) His experience in private equity with PE-backed boards.(9:57) About the mission and focus of Nurole, the UK-based board search firm where he serves as CEO. (12:27) On Nurole's network of 65,000+ board leaders (two parts: free and paid offerings).(20:16) Demystifying the board search process, four key stages:Briefing stageSourcing processAssessment

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00:52:17

Thompson Paine (Anthropic): "I Think the Potential of...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/07/17

(0:00) Intro.(1:05) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(1:52) Start of interview. (2:28) Thompson's origin story.(3:42) His startup work at Quizlet (joined a 5 person team) and Stripe (from 2k to 8k employees). Joined Anthropic in early 2023.(6:25) On China-US relations, and the course he teaches at Vanderbilt Law School: Emerging Technologies, Law, and U.S.-China Competition.(11:04) On startup incorporations, Delaware, and other thoughts for entrepreneurs

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00:46:23

Natasha Allen: Navigating AI Regulation, Exits, and...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/07/09

(0:00) Intro(1:20) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:06) Start of interview.(2:37) Natasha's "origin story." (6:25) On the risks and opportunities for AI.(8:39) On the regulatory landscape of AI in the US. Reference to President Biden's Executive Order.(11:40) On California's regulation of AI (SB 1047).(15:24) On the international AI regulatory landscape, including the EU AI legislation.(20:35) On the state of startups and venture capital in Silicon

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00:56:28

Tyler Shultz: Theranos Whistleblower on Fraud and...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/07/01

(0:00) Intro(1:06) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(1:53) Start of interview.(2:37) Tyler's "origin story." (4:50) His beginnings at Theranos.(7:07) On the culture of the Theranos, "the company was extremely secretive and paranoid."(9:41) On the lack of equity compensation for Theranos employees.(10:32) On Theranos' board of directors.(16:50) Some of the prominent investors in Theranos, and lack of due diligence.(19:24) On Elizabeth Holmes and Sunny Balwani

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00:58:15

Ilya Strebulaev: Venture Mindset Takeaways for Board...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/06/25

(0:00) Intro.(1:39) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:25) Start of interview. Reference to E21 with Ilya Strebulaev from October 2020.(4:01) On why he wrote his book The Venture Mindset: for decision makers in large organizations.(5:37) About the first principle: Home Runs Matter, Strikeouts Don’t. Make small bets vs fear of failure.(7:23) Two types of innovation: incremental (step by step) vs. disruptive innovation.(13:32) The unique role that independent

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00:56:17

Greg LaBlanc: "It's Really Hard to be a Good Board...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/06/17

(0:00) Intro.(1:19) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:05) Start of interview.(2:58) Greg's "origin story." (5:31) His teaching focus.(8:04) Discussion on startups and venture capital and the era of AI. Behavioral finance and bubbles. (11:17) Bubbles in private (VC and PE) and public markets.(15:12) Staying private vs going public fundamentals.(20:05) The role of governance and advice from directors to CEOs.(22:43) On growth of private equity.(28:00) On the rise

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00:58:03

Jennifer Dulski: "To Join a Public Board, Someone...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/06/10

(0:00) Intro.(1:21) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:08) Start of interview.(2:41) Jennifer's "origin story." (3:41) Founding a non-profit at the start of her career: Breakthrough Pittsburgh.(4:15) The start of her tech career with Yahoo!(7:12) Her roles post Yahoo!: founding and selling The Dealmap to Google.(9:20) Her transition and tenure as president & COO of Change.org (scaling from 18 million to 200 million users). About her Motivational Pie

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00:53:09

Sonita Lontoh: On Board Culture, Innovation, and...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/06/03

(0:00) Intro.(1:24) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:12) Start of interview.(4:04) Sonita's "origin story." (5:45) Her professional career, starting with a startup in the gaming industry.(8:15) Her guiding principles for her career at the intersection of innovation, sustainability and digital transformation.(9:30) Her roles at HP, Siemens and PG&E.(11:00) Her board "portfolio" life starting in 2022: SunRun and TrueBlue. Advisor to Sway Ventures.(14:02) About

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00:47:31

Coco Brown: Founder & CEO of Athena Alliance on Board...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/05/28

(0:00) Intro.(1:14) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:02) Start of interview.(2:37) Coco's "origin story." (4:32) Her professional background with HR, comp and IT.(6:32) Her time at Taos, a professional services business in IT consulting (17yrs). Ultimately acquired by IBM in 2021.(8:35) The origin story of her founding Athena Alliance (2016) as a non-profit.(11:00) Three core issues with board placements: 1) access to opportunities, 2) positioning for the

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01:10:29

Greg Gretsch: On Founder and Investor Trends from...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/05/20

(0:00) Intro.(1:17) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:03) Start of interview.(3:08) Greg's "origin story." (6:53) From the University of Georgia to Apple in Cuppertino.(10:50) The start of his entrepreneurial journey in 1992 with his first company.(13:03) The boom and bust cyclical nature of Silicon Valley. "[M]y father used to say that the stock market has predicted nine of the last three recessions. And, you know, I think in Silicon Valley, the investor and

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00:53:12

Patrick Gadson: Shareholder Activism in 2024 and its...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/04/29

(0:00) Intro.(1:23) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:10) Start of interview.(2:40) Patrick's "origin story." (3:41) His time at Skadden and Olshan Frome Wolosky (leading shareholder activism legal practice).(4:38) Joining Vinson & Elkins to co-build shareholder activism practice.(6:40) Distinguishing between large, mid, and small cap activism.(10:14) Reference to Lazard's 2023 Annual Review of Activism and Patrick's 2024 trends to watch out in activism.(13:39)

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00:56:14

Leah Solivan: The Entrepreneur's Journey to the...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/04/22

(0:00) Intro.(1:10) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(1:57) Start of interview.(2:40) Leah's "origin story." (3:41) Her time at IBM.(4:48) Her founding story of TaskRabbit (Boston, 2008).(12:43) The evolution of her board at TaskRabbit, and how to think about (startup) board composition and scaling. (20:31) First CEO succession (after $12m Series B in 2012).(25:10) Her return as CEO, raising a Series C, and adding 3 strategic independent directors.(26:13) On

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00:59:29

Jeffrey Saviano (EY): "I Feel Strongly That We Need a...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/04/15

(0:00) Intro.(1:10) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(1:58) Start of interview.(2:43) His role at EY and appointments at Harvard's Safra Center for Ethics (ELSCE), MIT and Boston University.(5:23) Defining AI. Reference to the 1956 Dartmouth AI conference.(8:29) GAI, AI market and valuations.(11:31) On AI Ethics for business and AI governance. Reference to Harvard's Danielle Allen.(15:10) On the concept of Multistakeholderism and AI Ethics. Hippocratic Oath for

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00:55:15

Amy Banse: On Board Dynamics and Listening Through...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/04/08

(0:00) Intro.(1:12) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:00) Start of interview.(3:10) Amy's "origin story." (6:23) Her time leading Comcast Ventures, and how Corporate Venture Capital (CVC) has evolved.(9:08) Why SF/Silicon Valley as a tech hub for Comcast Ventures.(11:19) Her first public company board experience (with Adobe).(13:15) Differences on serving on public and private (venture-backed) boards. "Much more hands-on in private companies."(15:27)

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00:57:35

Teresa Johnson: On ESG, Boardroom Diversity, and...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/04/01

(0:00) Intro.(1:04) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(1:51) Start of interview.(2:54) Terry's "origin story." (5:18) The start of her legal career with O'Melveny & Myers.(8:35) Her time at Howard Rice and her current role at Arnold & Portner (the firms merged in 2012).(11:34) Her book ESG, the Professional's Guide to the Law and Practice of ESG, published by the American Bar Association.(14:55) On the evolution of the purpose of the corporation and emergence of

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00:58:36

Mary Inman: On Theranos, Meta and Representing High...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/03/18

(0:00) Intro.(1:27) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(2:14) Start of interview.(3:30) Mary's "origin story." (5:32) Her start as a whistleblower lawyer at Philips & Cohen. The advent of US Whistleblower reward programs (CFTC, SEC, IRS, Transportation, Treasury, and DOJ soon).(7:50) The Theranos case and her representation of Tyler Schulz.(14:02) More about the SEC Whistleblower Program. (24:52) The Facebook (Meta) case and her representation of Frances Haugen. On

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00:52:51

Katherine Henderson and Amy Simmerman: 2023 Delaware...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/03/04

(0:00) Intro(1:02) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(1:49) Start of interview. (2:37) Katherine Henderson's "origin story."(5:05) Amy Simmerman's "origin story."(8:02) The origin and focus of their Delaware Corporate Law and Litigation Year in Review.(9:14) Caseload of Delaware Court of Chancery judges.(12:51) Cases involving director oversight duties ("Caremark duties"). Reference to the Blue Bell case (2019). "Mission critical risk areas." Reference to Section

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00:49:54

Vice-Chancellor J. Travis Laster of the Delaware...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/02/26

(0:00) Intro.(2:27) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(3:13) Start of interview. [Interviewer: UC Law SF Professor Abe Cable. Reference to his article "Does Trados Matter?" (2019)].(4:17) Summary of the Trados case by Vice-Chancellor Laster. (9:44) Concept of "residual value maximization." Distinguishing between standard of conduct and standard of review.(16:17) Explaining standards of review: 1) Business judgment rule, 2) Enhanced scrutiny and 3) Entire fairness

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00:47:37

Alexandre Rangel: Institutional Investors' Engagement...

Boardroom Governance with Evan Epstein ·

2024/02/12

(0:00) Intro.(1:10) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(1:57) Start of interview.(4:00) Alexandre's "origin story." His time as Commissioner of the Brazilian Securities and Exchange Commission (CVM) (2020-2023). (7:34) On his OECD background note on Institutional Investors' Engagement in Latin America (2023).(14:56) Local institutional investors and pension funds engagement in Brazil. *reference to E118 with John Coates: The Problem of Twelve, Index Funds and

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