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Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]

Kelly Chase & Jay Christopher King

Reality isn’t what you’ve been told. Cosmosis is your portal to the edge of what we know—and what we don’t. Hosted by writer and researcher Kelly Chase (The UFO Rabbit Hole) and lifelong experiencer and filmmaker Jay Christopher King (The Experiencer Group), this podcast explores the mysteries of UFOs, non-human intelligence, consciousness, the paranormal, and the hidden architectures of reality. We’re not here for manufactured narratives about UFO disclosure or sanitized intelligence community

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50:27

Whistleblower David Grusch Reveals Existence of...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/06/09

On Monday, June 5th, 2023, a story was published by The Debrief presenting claims from the first whistleblower to step forward publicly since the passing of UAP whistleblower legislation with the 2023 National Defense Authorization Act a few months ago. This whistleblower, David Charles Grusch, is a high-level member of the intelligence community, and he is claiming to have knowledge of special access programs that have recovered non-human technological craft. Later that same day, an excerpt from an

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An Interview with Mike Clelland: Owls, UFOs, and the...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/06/01

In this episode, I spoke with author, illustrator, and researcher, Mike Clelland. Mike is the author of several books, two of which we’ll be discussing directly in this episode. The first is The Messengers: Owls, Synchronicity, and the UFO Abductee. The second is his latest release, The Unseen, which is a fiction book that deals with many of the themes of his other work. He also provided the illustrations for the book The Cryptoterrestrials: A Meditation on Indigenous Humanoids and the Aliens Among

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49:48

Ep 22: Waking Up Inside The Cave [Pt 2]: Simulation...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/05/25

Today we’re diving into Part 2 of the Waking Up Inside The Cave series. If you haven’t listened to that part 1 yet, I highly recommend that you do so first. It’s linked in the episode brief. For many who take the trip down the UFO rabbit hole, there comes a point where you find yourself asking much bigger questions about reality. It boils down to this:The UFO phenomenon is impossible by every single measure that we use to determine such things, and yet it is. And the existence of the impossible

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58:32

An Interview with Ryan Sprague: Stories from...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/05/11

Ryan Sprague is the creator and host of the Somewhere in the Skies podcast and the author of the new book Stories from Somewhere in the Skies. He is a regular on Ancient Aliens (History Channel) and a lead investigator and co-host of Mysteries Decoded (CW Network). Sprague’s research finds him interviewing witnesses, scientists, military personnel, and intelligence officials directly on UFOs, writing for The Debrief. Speaking on UFOs, he has been featured on ABC News and 7News Australia. He has

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51:25

An Interview with Dr. Avi Loeb of the Galileo Project

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/05/04

In this episode, I had the pleasure of speaking with Dr. Avi Loeb. Dr. Loeb was the longest serving chair of Harvard's Department of Astronomy from 2011–2020. In June 2020, he was sworn in as a member of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology. And, most relevant to today’s conversation, he is also currently the head of Harvard’s Galileo Project whose mission is the systematic scientific search for evidence of extraterrestrial technological

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Ep 21: Dr. James Madden [Pt 2]: Unidentified Flying...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/04/27

Today we welcome back Dr. James Madden to the show. As I’m sure you’ll recall, Jim joined us a couple of months ago for a discussion about Plato’s Cave. We also discussed some of his latest work applying the philosophical concept of the umwelt to the UFO phenomenon. And I was really excited to see that that episode has become one of the most listened to episodes of the podcasts, because it’s definitely one of my favorites. If you haven’t listened to that episode yet, I highly recommend that you go

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Ep 20: An Interview with Dr. Iya Whiteley feat. Dr....

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/04/19

Today I’m bringing you something really special. A few weeks ago, Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka reached out to connect me with someone she thought I might be interested in interviewing for the podcast. Her name is Dr. Iya Whiteley and she is a space psychologist who is featured in Diana’s upcoming book due out in November entitled, Encounters: Experiences with Nonhuman Intelligences. Given the respect that I have for Diana and her work, her recommendation alone would have been enough for me to say yes

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46:29

UFO Disclosure News: An Interview with Christopher...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/04/06

As predicted, 2023 has already been a massive year for the UFO disclosure movement. As we seemingly gain momentum, and with a fresh round of congressional hearings on UAPs potentially just around the corner, this felt like the perfect moment to dive into the progress made so far.And there’s no one better for this conversation than Christopher Sharp of the Liberation Times. Chris is an independent journalist hailing from the UK who has consistently been beating the mainstream media to the punch on

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76:45

UFO Secrets Inside Wright-Patterson: An Interview...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/03/30

In this episode, I talk to Thomas J. Carey, the co-author of UFO Secrets Inside Wright-Patterson. Along with his co-author, Donald R. Schmitt, Carey has spent over 30 years investigating the Roswell incident and tracing the trail of the materials and bodies that were recovered there all the way to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and beyond. They have published a dozen books on the subject (links below).Among the many stunning revelations in this episode is the true identity and location of the

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84:29

The Ohio UFO Heritage Conference: In The Shadow of...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/03/23

THE CONFERENCE HAS BEEN POSTPONED. NEW DATES WILL BE ANNOUNCED SOON.THE SPEAKERSJames Fox | Moment of Contact Bryce Zabel | Need To Know Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka | American Cosmic Dr. Michael Masters | The Extratempestrial Model Micah Hanks | Debrief Media ExoAcademian | Point of Convergence Jay Christopher King | The Experiencer Group Kelly Chase | The UFO Rabbit Hole Phil Ford | Weird Studies J.F. Martel | Weird Studies___________________________TRY BETTERHELPThis episode is brought to you by

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Ep 19: Waking Up Inside The Cave [Pt 1]: Everything...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/03/09

In many ways, our trip down the rabbit hole has been leading us, inevitably, to this episode. It’s in this episode that we reach a decisive inflection point. Nothing will be the same after this—maybe not even you.Over the previous 18 episodes, I have done my best to make the case, not only that the UFO phenomenon is real, but that the complexity, ubiquity, and unintelligibility of the phenomenon are so great as to suggest that many of our most fundamental assumptions about the nature of reality

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Ep 18: An Interview with Dr. James Madden: Philosophy...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/02/09

In this episode, I’m bringing you an interview with Dr. James Madden, professor of philosophy at Benedictine University. He is a martial artist, fitness coach, and philosopher with particular interest in the philosophy of mind, aesthetics, philosophy of religion, Aristotelianism, and phenomenology.If you’ll recall from the last episode, Diana mentioned Dr. Madden as someone who shared her “spooky” interpretation of the Cave. I first met Jim when he was a speaker in one of Diana’s classes over the

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Ep 17: An Interview with Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/01/26

In this episode, I’m bringing you an interview with one of my personal heroes, Dr. Diana Walsh Paslka. Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka is a professor of religious studies and Chair of the Department of Philosophy and Religion at the University of North Carolina, Wilmington. She holds a bachelor’s from UC Davis, a master’s from Berkeley, and a Ph.D. from Syracuse University. She is the author of Heaven Can Wait: Purgatory in Catholic Devotional and Popular Culture and American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion,

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78:29

Ep 16: The Sky Calls To Us: The Occult Origins Of The...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/01/20

In this episode, we’re discussing one of the most profound transitions in human history–that of our evolution from a terrestrial species to a spacefaring one. And as we examine the history and origins of the space programs in both the United States and the Soviet Union, we discover one of the most remarkable and baffling stories ever told, hiding in plain sight. To put it simply, many of the fathers of modern space flight were occultists who believed themselves to be in direct communication with

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Announcements: What To Expect In 2023 [I'm So Excited!]

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2023/01/07

It's a brand new year, and I have so many exciting updates to share with you all about the podcast—including the fact that you're about to get a WHOLE LOT more episodes! Get all of these updates, including when you can expect episode 16, in this quick bonus episode.___________________________TRY BETTERHELPThis episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/ RABBITHOLE and get on your way to being your best self.GET ZENCASTR"Use my special link zen.ai/rabbit30

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69:37

Ep 15: The Moon Is Weird AF: The Apollo Missions &...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2022/11/18

Welcome back to The UFO Rabbit Hole podcast. Today we turn our attention to our nearest neighbor, and the anchor for some of those most compelling and mysterious stories in the UFO lore—the Moon.Hanging serenely in the night sky, its face unchanging aside from the precise pendulum swing of the lunar cycle, the Moon is our constant companion. It’s the one heavenly body that we can easily observe with the naked eye, and as such it feels deeply familiar to us.But what if there is more to the Moon than

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Ep 14: Nazis & UFOs [Pt 4]: Admiral Byrd, Operation...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2022/09/15

In the final installment of our series on Nazis & UFOs, we’re doing a deep dive on one of the most beloved—and most mysterious—stories in the lore: that of Admiral Byrd, Operation Highjump, and Hollow Earth.Rumors have abounded for decades that, after WWII, what remained of the Third Reich escaped to a sprawling secret base under the ice in Antarctica—the mythical Station 211. But could this story be more than a mere wartime legend?In 1947, the largest military operation since the end of the war

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Ep 13: Nazis & UFOs [Pt 3]: Antarctica, Atlantis &...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2022/07/28

In part 3 of the Nazis & UFOs series we explore the soure of some of the most outlandish and intriguing stories in UFO lore—Antarctica.In 1938, Nazi Germany made an expedition to Antarctica where they claimed territory. What could have compelled them to make that investment of time and resources in the lead up to WWII? Were they looking for something? And could they have found it?After the war, rumors swirled that what remained of the Third Reich escaped to secret bases in Antarctica, and from

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61:56

Ep 12: Nazis & UFOs [Pt 2]: The Occult & Secret...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2022/06/27

In part 2 of our 3 part series on the intersection of Nazi and UFO lore during WWII, we’ll be diving into two major themes of this mythology: the occult and secret technology. We’ll be getting into everything in this episode: German occult clubs, Theosophy, secret technology, Die Glocke, foo fighters, the search for the Holy Grail and other relics, and more.And as we begin to untangle this dense and sprawling lore, we’ll see a new narrative being to emerge—one of humanity grappling with the

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Ep 11: Nazis & UFOs [Pt 1]: The Emergence Of UFO Lore

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2022/05/19

In part one of this 3-part series on the UFO lore connected to WWII and Nazi Germany, we begin by doing a deep dive into the emergence of UFO lore itself. While there is a ton of UFO lore connected to WWII, what is largely considered to be the first modern UFO sighting didn’t happen until 1947—2 years after the war ended. So to understand exactly what was going on during WWII, we need to first understand, not just how UFO lore first emerged, but how belief systems in general emerge and evolve over

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