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Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole]

Kelly Chase & Jay Christopher King

Reality isn’t what you’ve been told. Cosmosis is your portal to the edge of what we know—and what we don’t. Hosted by writer and researcher Kelly Chase (The UFO Rabbit Hole) and lifelong experiencer and filmmaker Jay Christopher King (The Experiencer Group), this podcast explores the mysteries of UFOs, non-human intelligence, consciousness, the paranormal, and the hidden architectures of reality. We’re not here for manufactured narratives about UFO disclosure or sanitized intelligence community

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65:07

Cosmosis: Origins

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/11/01

What happens when the search for truth leads you past the point of no return?In the first episode of Cosmosis: Origins, Kelly and Jay step out of the studio and back into the field—returning to the places where their lives first collided with the unknown. Through moments of honesty and reflection, they revisit the experiences that shattered their understanding of reality and the friendship that was forged in the fire of shared initiation. From childhood encounters with luminous beings to

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80:07

Bending Spoons & Reality: Remote Viewing, Psi...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/10/24

In this episode, Kelly and Jay recount an extraordinary night at the International Remote Viewing Association conference in Cloudcroft, New Mexico—one that began as a simple group experiment in spoon bending and ended with a display of unexplained aerial activity over the nearby White Sands Missile Range.As dozens of participants focused their attention around a bonfire, cutlery softened and twisted in their hands—just as amber lights began moving across the desert sky in ways that defied

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57:42

On Remote Viewing & UFOs: Paul H. Smith at IRVA 2025

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/10/16

In this special episode of Cosmosis, Kelly and Jay return from the International Remote Viewing Association Conference in Cloudcroft, New Mexico—where they spent a week immersed in the world of psychic espionage, anomalous perception, and frontier consciousness research. Surrounded by legends like Lyn Buchanan, Dale Graff, and Paul H. Smith, they were reminded of what drew them to this mystery in the first place: the humbling realization that reality is far stranger, and far more beautiful, than we

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80:04

Into the Superspectrum: Following John Keel's Trojan...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/10/02

In this episode, Kelly and Jay revisit the groundbreaking work of John Keel, one of the most influential and controversial figures in UFO history. Known for Operation Trojan Horse and The Mothman Prophecies, Keel pushed beyond the limits of conventional ufology to propose ideas that remain provocative more than 50 years later.They explore both the human story of Keel—the journalist, traveler, and relentless investigator—and the radical frameworks he left behind for making sense of high

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73:05

A New Force: Dana Kippel on Plasma, Consciousness,...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/09/18

In this episode, Kelly Chase sits down with Dana Kippel—author of A New Force: Plasma, Consciousness, and the New Human Potential—to dive into her vision of plasma as a multidimensional, living intelligence that carries both consciousness and information. Dana opens up about her path as an experiencer, the role of downloads and intuition in her work, and why embracing the feminine side of plasma is key to unlocking human potential.We talk about what it means to navigate reality through both

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70:10

The Call Is Coming From Inside The House: James...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/09/11

In this episode of Cosmosis, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King are joined by philosopher James Madden, author of Unidentified Flying Hyperobject: UFOs, Philosophy, and the End of the World. Jim has been part of this journey with us from the very beginning, appearing on The UFO Rabbit Hole podcast and in our docuseries Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality.Together, we take a hard look at the state of ufology and how belief, ideology, and language shape the way we think about the phenomenon. We ask

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94:39

Reading Reality: Myth, Time, and the Simulation...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/09/05

In this episode, Jay sits down with author of Time, Myth and Matter, LD Deutsch, for a wide-ranging conversation about time, myth, consciousness, and the instability of reality itself. LD Deutsch shares her journey from precognitive dreams to the cutting edge of consciousness studies, weaving together threads of Jungian psychology, mythology, physics, and technology.Together, they explore: How myth and physics act as complementary ways of “reading” reality. The strange synchronicity

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64:11

Plasma, Consciousness & the Future of Anomalous Studies

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/08/28

What if 99% of the universe holds the key to understanding UFOs, paranormal phenomena, and even consciousness itself?In this episode, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King dive deep into the plasma hypothesis—a paradigm-shifting idea that plasma, the fourth state of matter, may act as a substrate for intelligence. Fresh from the University of Exeter workshop on plasma cosmology (with thinkers like Robert Temple, Jeffrey Kripal, Bernard Carr, and Nick Cook), Kelly unpacks the conversations that are

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29:34

Unfurling The Myth: Narrative As Interface Between...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/08/21

In this episode, Kelly shares her recent paper Unfurling the Myth, presented at the University of Exeter during a workshop on Process Philosophy, Plasma Cosmology, and Transpersonal Psychology. This gathering brought together scientists, philosophers, and researchers—including Robert Temple, Jeffrey Kripal, Bernard Carr, Massimo Teodorani, and Nick Cook—to explore the possibility that plasma, the fourth state of matter, could serve as a substrate for non-biological intelligence.Kelly’s paper

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91:21

Fourth Wall Phantoms with Joshua Cutchin

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/08/13

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[Trailer] The New Season of Cosmosis Is Coming Soon

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/08/12

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[The Great Dangerous Books Podcast] Jacques Vallée's...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/08/11

Fan favorite, James Madden, has a brand new project with his brilliant co-host Jared Zimmerer called The Great Dangerous Books Podcast. Check out this episode to catch the vibe of the show, and if you like what you hear, be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. Subscribe to The Great Dangerous Books Podcast Spotify Apple Podcasts YouTube In this episode, Jim and Jared discuss the complexities of the UFO phenomenon with special guest Kelly Chase, focusing on Jacques Vallee's

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Ep 12: Magic, Consciousness, and Anomalous Reality...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/06/27

In this episode of Cosmosis, Jay Christopher King sits down with historian and esoteric scholar Mitch Horowitz for a wide-ranging conversation about magic, consciousness, and the anomalous. He is the author of numerous books Occult America, The Miracle Club, and Practical Magick, Mitch is a singular voice who bridges the academy, pop culture, and the esoteric underground with rare clarity and rigor.Together, they explore:The convergence between magical practice and parapsychologyRitual as an

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Ep 11: UFO Narrative Wars: Weaponized Belief in the...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/06/20

Watch the full video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/SF80nv1l32IIn this special episode of Cosmosis, Kelly Chase presents an updated version of her 2025 Contact in the Desert keynote, “UFO Narrative Wars: Weaponized Belief in the Age of Disclosure.” This talk goes beyond the surface of the UFO phenomenon to explore the hidden architecture of secrecy and the sophisticated mechanics of narrative control.Drawing from deep research into intelligence tradecraft, counterintelligence, and disinformation—along

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00:59:17

Gods, Ghosts, & UFOs

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/05/09

Today we’re sharing a special preview of a brand-new podcast called Gods, Ghosts, & UFOs—a show that explores the haunted edges of human experience, where the spiritual, the supernatural, and the anomalous collide.This preview episode is split into two parts. In the first half, Kelly joins hosts Jordan, Mallory, and Tom for an intimate and wide-ranging conversation about the cultural impact of the UFO phenomenon, the power of storytelling, and what it means to navigate a world where the boundaries

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Ep 10: The AI That Loved Me: Emotional Manipulation,...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/05/02

Kelly and Jay sit down for an unfiltered conversation about the deeply weird, emotionally charged relationships that are forming between people and their AI chatbots. What begins as a discussion about ChatGPT’s rapid evolution unfolds into something stranger—a reflection on the ways AI flatters, gaslights, and co-creates identity with its users.They explore:Why ChatGPT feels like a precocious child… or a pickup artistThe eerie overlap between AI interactions and experiencer narrativesWhether

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Ep 9: Daniel Elizondo on Narrative Control, The...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/04/25

In this episode, researcher and Loose Threads co-author Daniel Elizondo joins us for a far-reaching conversation about UFO secrecy, the architecture of disinformation, and the psychological terrain of the phenomenon itself.We dig into Jacques Vallée’s “Secret Onion”—a layered model of compartmentalization that explains how information is controlled and obscured within intelligence structures—and explore how narrative control operates both externally through infotainment and internally through

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Ep 8: Mysterious Benefactors: Skywatcher, Gifted...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/04/18

Fresh from the Archives of the Impossible conference at Rice University, Kelly and Jay sit down to unpack one of the most talked-about moments of the weekend—a provocative presentation by Dr. Garry Nolan on his involvement with the Skywatcher initiative.Skywatcher is an emerging public-facing effort claiming to demonstrate CE5-style contact, utilize psionic assets, with the aim of potentially reverse-engineering non-human technologies. The implications are enormous—and so are the questions.In this

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Ep 7: Time Wars: UFOs, Time Loops & The Battle for...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/04/11

In this mind-bending episode of Cosmosis, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King take you to the frontlines of one of the most disorienting—and revealing—aspects of the UFO phenomenon: time.From the baffling 1977 disappearance of Corporal Armando Valdés in Chile, to the unnerving time anomalies reported by abductees like Lynda Jones, this episode explores the unnerving possibility that the phenomenon isn’t just moving through space—but manipulating time itself.We dive deep into the emerging science of

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00:54:46

Ep 6: Diana Walsh Pasulka on Levitation, Redaction,...

Cosmosis [Formerly The UFO Rabbit Hole] ·

2025/04/04

Watch the full video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/JfwIlrLVyLsIn this episode of Cosmosis, we share a never-before-released talk by Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka, recorded live at the Inquire Anomalous conference in New York City. Diana—religious studies professor and author of American Cosmic and Encounters—takes us on an astonishing journey through her research into Catholic mysticism, Vatican archives, and modern UFO contact experiences.From levitating saints and the mysterious Woman in Blue to redacted

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