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Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee

Two sports marketing insiders, David Paro and Tim McGhee, bring you a fresh take on the sports business — often irreverent, sometimes cynical, and occasionally serious. From their years leading both agencies and client teams, they break down today’s biggest industry stories and share lessons learned along the way. Joined by top voices from the sports marketing world, DP & McGhee help you see the game behind the game. You’ll laugh, learn, and sometimes just say, “Wait, What?”

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Episode 71 (S2:E22): I Was Told There Would Be No Math

Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee ·

2023/10/04

DP & McGhee dig into the numbers in this week’s episode, talking about MLB attendance, NFL viewership, Inter Miami ticket prices, and Liverpool FC investments. They also do a recap of some of the stories around the recently completed Ryder Cup (DP even likens the rivalry to war), including how the Saudi investment could impact the event going forward. No guest? No problem. The hosts talk about some past guests, including one legendary sports business journalist’s take on spring football. Take a

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01:10:59

Episode 70 (S2:E21): "In Any Event," A Conversation...

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2023/09/29

Long-time sports industry leader, Keith Bruce joins DP & McGhee for a discussion about the recent acquisition of QuintEvents by F1-owner Liberty Media and what it means for their growth and expansion plans. The QuintEvents International President also talks about his long and storied career, including being the CEO of Super Bowl 50, arguably the most important Super Bowl in the history of the NFL. Bruce also gives listeners his perspective on what has changed and what’s remained constant in his

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00:50:56

Episode 69 (S2:E20): Welcome Back Our Friends to the...

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2023/09/14

After a long, hot summer, DP and McGhee are back! As cool as the coming fall. In this episode, your intrepid hosts distill a season’s worth of sports biz news into an hour long show. With football now in full swing, they talk about everything from Coach Prime to Aaron Rodgers to record ratings to conference realignment. The other football gets some love, as well. Specifically, the Messi Effect and his immediate and significant impact on MLS. Tim and David are both impressed by both Coco Gauff and

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Episode 68 (S2:E19): Summertime...& the Living's Easy

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2023/06/21

DP & McGhee are about to take a hiatus from the show to enjoy the summer. But before they sign off for a few weeks, they touch on a number of topics around the sports industry. No show would be complete without a discussion of LIV Golf, but while the merger (or whatever you want to call it) between the TOUR and LIV Golf is under legal and regulatory scrutiny, it will continue to be newsworthy. But golf in general continues to create compelling storylines, whether it’s the US Open won by a guy

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00:45:49

Episode 67 (S2:E18): LIV and Let LIV Die

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2023/06/08

The show has covered LIV Golf as much as it has any current topic in sports, but this week’s episode is dedicated almost exclusively to the recent merger (?) between the TOUR, the DP (not short for David Paro) World Tour and LIV.Oh, and a pretty good soccer player named Lionel something is coming to MLS.

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Episode 66 (S2:E17): LIV Long & Prosper

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2023/05/24

DP & McGhee kick off, or should we say tip off, the show talking about LeBron’s departure from the playoffs and the real possibility that the Celtics might also be swept away. Brooks Koepka won his 5th major this past weekend, but his first since joining LIV Golf. What is the impact of Koepka's win, both long- and short-term, on the upstart golf tour? Getting back to hoops, your co-hosts talk about the start of the WNBA season, highlighted by Brittney Griner’s return to the court and

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00:51:44

Episode 65 (S2:E16): Around the Horn

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2023/05/17

DP & McGhee take advantage of not having a guest by touching on a whole host of topics around the sports industry. They start by channeling their inner Siskel & Ebert (look it up, kids) to discuss the Ben Affleck-directed “Air” about Nike’s efforts to sign Michael Jordan before he became MICHAEL JORDAN, or just MJ. And keeping to their rule about only discussing certain topics on days that end in Y, they hit upon the NFL’s upcoming schedule and PGA of America’s honcho Seth Waugh’s take on

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00:58:48

Episode 64 (S2:E15): Legends of the #SportsBiz-Rick...

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2023/05/04

Alternate title: Will you still need me, will you still feed me when I’m (episode) 64 DP & McGhee spend the opening segment discussing ratings for the NHL and NBA Playoffs, MLB first month numbers and, yes, Super Bowl ratings. And while they do discuss action on the field of play, that merely goes to show you that the sporting side impacts the commercial operations and vice versa. The Co-Hosts are then joined by Rick Singer, one of the most accomplished and nicest people in the sports

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00:49:58

Episode 63 (S2:E14): Playing Catch (up)

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2023/04/26

DP & McGhee return from a week off and toss around a number of topics during the latest episode. David, knowing positive news for NY Jets fans is sometimes hard to come by kicks of the discussion by talking about the trade that brings Aaron Rodgers to Gang Green. Spoiler alert, both hosts see the Jets as a playoff contender in the 2023 season. That can't bode well for J E T S Jets, Jets, Jets. Going from the American brand of football to the beautiful game, the hosts talk about the success of

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Episode 62 (S2:E13): Shooting the Bull with PBR CEO,...

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2023/04/12

The growth of bull riding as a major sports property has been nothing short of phenomenal. A lot of credit for that goes to Sean Gleason, the CEO of the Professional Bull Riders. From creating not one, but two docuseries around the sport to selling franchises to the Team Series, Sean has been among the most innovative leaders in sports. On this episode, Sean talks about PBR’s founding 30 years ago, its milestone anniversary, and the sport’s future. DP & McGhee open the show by recapping the

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Episode 61 (S2:E12): Reunited (and it feels so good)

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2023/04/06

After global travel and illness kept the dynamic duo apart for several weeks, DP & McGhee return in fine form to discuss the recently completed NCAA men’s and women’s basketball tournament, Masters Golf and other sundry and various topics. Endeavor’s purchase of WWE to merge it with UFC gets a bit of the irreverent treatment the podcast promises, while IBM’s use of its Masters sponsorship to showcase some pretty cool AI technology checks the “sometimes serious” box. And throughout the episode,

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Episode 60 (S2:E11): Chip & Chat, A Conversation With...

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2023/03/30

This week’s guest is Julie Tyson, a Senior Vice President with the PGA TOUR with responsibility for Global Partnerships - Global Strategy and Innovation. Julie has held a variety of senior roles within the organization, so she’s well suited to talk about the recent changes and innovations the TOUR has implemented to increase fan engagement, viewership and ultimately participation in the sport. And, as one of the most senior women in the business of golf, she has a vested interest in the steps the

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Episode 59 (S2:E10): Legends of the #SportsBiz-Bill...

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2023/03/24

With David on the PUP list due to a lost voice, Tim flies solo in this episode. McGhee interviews Bill Sutton, a true industry legend. Bill talks about working with David Stern to launch the NBA’s TMBO (Team Marketing/Business Operations) group, his early days in the industry and advice that any person in the sports business can benefit from heeding. Dr. Sutton has created and led some amazing sport management programs at various universities, and has helped place thousands of students in positions

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Episode 58 (S2:E9): Heroes and Villains

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2023/03/15

After taking a week off, DP & McGhee return with a conversation that runs the gamut across a variety of sports, and around the world. March Madness is top of mind for many US sports fans, so the hosts talk about everything from NIL to incoming president Charlie Baker to a big corporate sponsor returning. Of course, they also touch upon gambling and the grandaddy of college basketball betting, the office pool. XFL seems to be a nearly weekly discussion, and this episode is no different as DP

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Episode 57 (S2:E8): Spotlight on Sponsorships-Our...

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2023/03/01

DP & McGhee mine a rich lode when they go back to two favorite subjects, LIV Golf and pickleball. LIV Golf delivered less than stellar ratings on the CW, while pickeball landed a title sponsor with Vlasic pickles coming on board in one of the most obvious brand partnerships in history. After talking about some recent sponsorship news, the hosts welcome Bob Lynch, the founder and CEO of SponsorUnited. SponsorUnited is one of Inc. Magazine’s fastest growing companies, and Bob talks about the

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00:47:21

Episode 56 (S2:E7):Young Entrepreneur Series feat....

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2023/02/21

As part of the ongoing Young Entrepreneur Series, DP & McGhee welcome Brendan Candon, CEO of SidelineSwap, an online platform for buying and selling sports equipment. Brendan takes us through lessons learned, the recent strategic investment by Dick’s Sporting Goods, and advice for would-be entrepreneurs. Before talking to Candon, the co-hosts talk about the highs and (mostly) lows of the NBA All Star festivities, the first weekend of the re-launched XFL, the great atmosphere at the Genesis

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Episode 55 (S2:E6): By The Numbers-MIT Sloan Sports...

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2023/02/15

CEO of the Kraft Analytics Group (KAGR) and co-founder of the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference, Jessica Gelman joins the show to talk about the growth and evolution of analytics in the sports business, on both the sporting and commercial side. Gelman feels that the science of data analytics in sports is still in its very early stages of development and has only begun to scratch the surface of what it can add to the business of sports. Started as a one-day event in 2006 with only a keynote

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Episode 54 (S2:E5): Ram Tough - Fordham AD, Edward Kull

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2023/02/08

DP & McGhee welcome Fordham University’s director of athletics, Edward Kull to the show. Ed talks about the challenges of running a program competing in a mid-major conference, how things like NIL have complicated an already complex job, and how programs like Fordham drive revenue, the lifeblood of college athletics. Given that it’s Super Bowl week, our hosts spent most of the up front portion of the show talking about the...NHL. Of course, they also mentioned Tom Brady’s (2nd) retirement as

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Episode 53 (S2:E4): "Drivers, Start Your Engines" -...

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2023/02/01

We may be less than two weeks away from the Super Bowl, but the NASCAR season starts this weekend in Los Angeles, and F1 revs up in just over a month. So, DP and McGhee were excited to welcome Jonathan Gibson, EVP, Marketing and Business Development for the Penske Corporation to the #sportsbiz chat. Jonathan has had a long and storied career and he shared some of the wisdom he’s gained from working for the legendary Roger Penske.He also talked about some of the great things Penske has in store for

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00:58:51

Episode 52 (S2:E3): Young Entrepreneur Series feat....

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2023/01/25

DP & McGhee launch a new segment, the Young Entrepreneur Series and they couldn’t have asked for a better first guest than Daniel Hennes, co-founder and CEO of Engage. Daniel shares his journey of disrupting an industry that had been inefficient and often wrought with bad actors.Engage allows brands and athletes to connect creating opportunities for companies to utilize talent for appearances and speaking engagements. Daniel’s maturity certainly belies his young age. What would an episode of

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