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Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee

Two sports marketing insiders, David Paro and Tim McGhee, bring you a fresh take on the sports business — often irreverent, sometimes cynical, and occasionally serious. From their years leading both agencies and client teams, they break down today’s biggest industry stories and share lessons learned along the way. Joined by top voices from the sports marketing world, DP & McGhee help you see the game behind the game. You’ll laugh, learn, and sometimes just say, “Wait, What?”

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00:55:40

𝗬𝗼𝘂𝘁𝗵 𝗠𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁: 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘣𝘰𝘰𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘣𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘩 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴...

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2025/10/16

Episode 131 | DP & McGheeDavid and Tim are back with another jam-packed episode of Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee, starting with a lively breakdown of the latest college football controversies — from chaos in Happy Valley to NCAA policy debates that could reshape the future of college athletics.Then, they welcome Wade Martin, COO and CEO, Baseball at Unrivaled Sports, for an in-depth conversation about the state of youth sports, sponsor engagement opportunities, and his own

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𝗟𝗲𝗮𝘃𝗲𝘀 (𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗲) 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗙𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴: 𝘞𝘕𝘉𝘈 𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯, 𝘔𝘓𝘉...

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2025/10/09

Episode 130David and Tim are back with another jam-packed episode of Wait, What? — diving into the latest headlines across the sports industry with their trademark mix of insight and humor. From the WNBA’s contrasting narratives to record TV ratings and eyebrow-raising political involvement in sports, they cover it all.🏀 WNBA: A Tale of Two Stories — The on-court product has never been better with the Las Vegas Aces and Phoenix Mercury in the Finals, but off the court, a tense labor standoff

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01:12:21

𝗦𝗰𝗵𝗼𝗼𝗹 𝗗𝗮𝘆𝘀: 𝘚𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘚𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴𝘣𝘪𝘻 𝘌𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯

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2025/10/02

Episode 129 David and Tim are in class with three distinguished educators who are shaping the next generation of sports business leaders: Andy Clark (DePaul University), Keith Cutler (Montclair State University), and Mary Scott (Columbia University). This episode dives into the evolution of academic programs, the critical importance of industry connections, and how students can best prepare for a successful career in the sports world.Topics this week include:⛳️ Ryder Cup Recap – DP & McGhee

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00:57:53

𝗙𝗼𝘅 𝗢𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗥𝘂𝗻: 𝘛𝘰𝘮 𝘍𝘰𝘹 𝘰𝘯 𝘴𝘩𝘢𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮...

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2025/09/25

Episode 128DP & McGhee are joined by legendary sports marketer Tom Fox, whose remarkable career has spanned leadership roles at Nike, Gatorade, Wasserman, Arsenal, Aston Villa, and the San Jose Earthquakes. Tom shares behind-the-scenes stories from his journey and offers sharp insights into the rapidly evolving sports business landscape.Before Tom joins, David and Tim break down the week’s biggest sports business headlines — from game-changing tech in baseball to major stadium developments

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00:51:08

𝗚𝗲𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗻𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗲𝗱: 𝘈 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘈𝘛&𝘛’𝘴 𝘔𝘢𝘳𝘬...

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2025/09/18

Episode 127 | DP & McGheeThis week’s episode features a wide-ranging conversation with Mark Wright, VP of Media & Sponsorships at AT&T. From his early career at AB InBev to leading sponsorship strategy at one of the world’s biggest brands, Mark shares insights on career growth, brand respect, and the importance of measuring partnerships.Alongside our guest spotlight, DP & McGhee dive into the week’s biggest stories shaping the business of sports:🏀 Clippers Controversy – Steve

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00:44:17

𝗕𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗢𝘂𝗿 𝗚𝘂𝗲𝘀𝘁𝘀: 𝘋𝘗 & 𝘔𝘤𝘎𝘩𝘦𝘦 𝘵𝘢𝘤𝘬𝘭𝘦 𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦𝘦𝘬 𝘕𝘍𝘓...

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2025/09/11

Episode 126 | DP & McGheeNo guest? No problem. David and Tim fire up the mics for a packed episode covering the biggest stories in sports business — with sharp insights and a touch of humor.Here’s what you’ll hear this week:🏈 NFL Week 1 Ratings — Eagles-Cowboys nearly set a record (until weather interfered), and YouTube delivers solid numbers for Chiefs-Chargers. But should they have been bigger?💰 Super Bowl Ad Frenzy — NBC sells out Super Bowl LX at a record pace, locking in $8M per :30. With

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𝗕𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝗧𝗼 𝗕𝗹𝗮𝗰𝗸: 𝘙𝘺𝘥𝘦𝘳 𝘊𝘶𝘱 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘧𝘳𝘰𝘮 𝘣𝘰𝘵𝘩...

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2025/09/04

Episode 125 | DP & McGheeDavid and Tim return from the long weekend ready to dive into a packed episode filled with college football, NASCAR drama, and Ryder Cup anticipation. From major wins on the field to intense battles off of it, this episode covers the latest developments across multiple sports while featuring two powerhouse guests from the world of golf.Here’s what they cover:🏈 College Football KickoffUNC gets trounced in their season opener.Florida State makes a statement with a huge

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00:41:45

Are You Ready For Some Football? 𝘈 𝘤𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘥,...

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2025/08/28

𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲 𝟭𝟮𝟰 | 𝗗𝗣 & 𝗠𝗰𝗚𝗵𝗲𝗲In this episode, David and Tim sit down with Keith Gill, Commissioner of the Sun Belt Conference, for an open and wide-ranging conversation on the future of college sports. Gill shares his perspective on the College Football Playoff expansion, the transfer portal, and reflects on his own journey as a student-athlete at Duke University.Before Gill joins the show, DP & McGhee break down some of the hottest topics in sports business:⛳ PGA TOUR

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𝗧𝗲𝗻𝗻𝗶𝘀 𝗔𝗻𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗲? 𝘈𝘩𝘮𝘢𝘥 𝘕𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘢𝘳 𝘰𝘯 𝘗𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘦𝘳 𝘈𝘥𝘷𝘰𝘤𝘢𝘤𝘺 & 𝘵𝘩𝘦...

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2025/08/21

Episode 123 | DP & McGheeIn this episode, David Paro and Tim McGhee kick things off with their signature Spotlight on Sponsorships before diving into big stories across the sports business landscape. They wrap things up with a conversation with Ahmad Nassar, Executive Director of the Professional Tennis Players Association (PTPA) and CEO of Winners Alliance.✨ Spotlight on Sponsorships🏟️ Olympic Venue Naming Rights – LA2028 makes history by selling venue naming rights, while iconic sites like

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00:49:30

𝗙𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝗟𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗹𝗲 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝗕𝗶𝗴 𝗧𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝗚𝗿𝗼𝘄: 𝘐𝘯𝘴𝘪𝘥𝘦 𝘓𝘪𝘵𝘵𝘭𝘦...

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2025/08/14

Episode 122 | DP & McGheeCo-hosts David Paro and Tim McGhee open with a sharp look at recent headline-making moves in sports media. They break down the NFL’s $2.5B stake in ESPN—part of a massive $25B valuation—and Fox Sports’ strategic investment in IndyCar, exploring how these deals could reshape the sports broadcast and rights landscape.The discussion then tackles the troubling persistence of sexism and misogyny in sports. DP & McGhee address incidents like sex toys being thrown onto the

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𝗢𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗦𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗢𝗳 𝗚𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘁𝘀 𝘧𝘦𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘳𝘬𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨...

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2025/07/31

Episode 121 | DP & McGheeIn this Legends Series episode of Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee, co-hosts David Paro and Tim McGhee sit down with industry pioneer Frank Vuono — a true architect of the modern sports marketing era. From supercharging the NFL’s licensing operation in the 1980s to co-founding ISI and 16W Marketing, Frank shares hard-earned insights and behind-the-scenes stories from a remarkable career spent working with some of the biggest names in sports.But first, DP

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00:49:34

𝗕𝗼𝗮𝗿𝗱𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗺 𝗕𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘇: 𝘓𝘦𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘔𝘢𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘰𝘯 𝘭𝘪𝘧𝘦 𝘢𝘧𝘵𝘦𝘳...

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2025/07/24

Episode 120 | DP & McGhee In this wide-ranging episode, co-hosts David Paro and Tim McGhee sit down with former New York Giants star Leonard Marshall. Known for his dominant play on the field, Marshall opens up about his legendary NFL career, his championship days in New York, and his impressive post-football business ventures. But before welcoming Leonard, the hosts take a lap around the world of sports and culture with their trademark wit and insight.Here’s what they cover:🎸 RIP to a Rock

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00:46:47

Hey Now, You’re an All-Star: 𝘔𝘓𝘉 𝘥𝘳𝘢𝘮𝘢, 𝘓𝘦𝘪𝘸𝘦𝘬𝘦'𝘴...

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2025/07/17

Episode 119 | DP & McGhee DP & McGhee return with a wide-ranging look at the latest in sports and sports business — from the All-Star Game to a possible showdown in MLB labor talks.They also break down the shocking indictment of Oak View Group Founder & CEO, Tim Leiweke, and what it means for the future of OVG and other management firms.Also in this episode:🌭 Joey Chestnut’s wildest records🎾 Wimbledon on and off the court🏆 Chelsea’s Club World Cup beatdown of PSG🏁 Shane van Gisbergen

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00:59:08

𝗨𝗻𝗹𝗶𝗺𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗣𝗼𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗹: 𝘝𝘢𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘢 𝘛𝘢𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘴 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘧...

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2025/07/10

Episode 118 | DP & McGhee 🎙️ Hot Takes on Hot DogsCo-hosts David Paro and Tim McGhee kick off with the Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest, praising Joey Chestnut’s continued dominance while diving into the controversy surrounding the women’s winner’s disqualification.⭐ WNBA All-Star Pay & Player Power MovesThe hosts spotlight the modest All-Star bonuses for WNBA players and the Players Association’s rejection of the league’s initial CBA proposal. Plus, they dig into a potential conflict of

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00:48:04

Turn On Your Search Light: 𝘚𝘤𝘰𝘵𝘵 𝘊𝘢𝘳𝘮𝘪𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘦𝘭 𝘰𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦...

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2025/07/03

𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲 𝟭𝟭𝟳 | 𝗗𝗣 & 𝗠𝗰𝗚𝗵𝗲𝗲This week, DP & McGhee sit down with Scott Carmichael, founder and CEO of Prodigy Search — one of the most trusted names in executive search across sports. From Lakers ball boy to front-office insider, Scott shares what’s changed in the hiring game and what’s next for leadership in sports.Also: It’s July 1 — which means birthdays, Bonilla, and a few curveballs from the sports business world.🎙️ Scott Carmichael onHis path from ball boy to CEOHow the

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Summer's Here and the Time is Right: 𝘑𝘶𝘭𝘪𝘦 𝘎𝘪𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘯...

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2025/06/26

Episode 116 | DP & McGheeThis week, we tackle the biggest headlines in the sports business — from NBA expansion rumors to Wrexham’s stunning $475M valuation — and then sit down with Julie Giese, President of the NASCAR Chicago Street Race.We cover:• Julie’s path from Watkins Glen to Phoenix to the heart of Chicago• How NASCAR brought racing to city streets — and pulled it off• What it really takes to grow a career in sportsPlus:• $10B Lakers valuation — and what it means for expansion fees• Joe

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00:32:44

Episode 115 (S4:E19): From The US Open to Mexico...

Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee ·

2025/06/18

What's behind the headlines in sports this week? DP & McGhee serve up another fast-paced rundown of the latest in the business of sport: PGA TOUR Enterprises makes a power move, naming Brian Rolapp (former NFL media chief) as CEO. What does this mean for the future of the TOUR and any potential reunification with players on the LIV Tour? Scott O’Neil and Chris Heck are back together—this time at LIV Golf. JJ Spaun stuns the field and captures the U.S. Open—we look at what his win

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01:04:52

Episode 114 (S4:E18): A Witness To Middle East Sports...

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2025/06/11

Guest: Roger Duthie, former Head of Sponsorships at Emirates AirlinesIn this dynamic episode, DP & McGhee sit down with Roger Duthie, a true insider who has had a front-row seat to the explosive growth of sports in the Middle East. With decades of experience in global sponsorship, including a marquee role at Emirates Airline.Roger shares stories from the front lines of sports marketing and discusses the rapid transformation of the Gulf region into a global sports hub.DP & McGhee also

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Episode 113 (S4:E17):🎙️ THE FINALS COUNTDOWN – Sports...

Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee ·

2025/06/04

No guest this week? No problem.DP & McGhee are talking business—this week, specifically the business of sports media. From why NBA and Stanley Cup Finals ratings could be historically low, to MLB’s attendance and viewership boom, this week’s episode is a tour through the shifting sports TV landscape.🎯 Topics covered:📉 Why NBA & NHL Finals ratings may dip (and who’s to blame)📈 MLB’s strong rebound: ratings, rules, and real fan interest🏀 Knicks coaching drama & what it means for MSG🚐

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00:56:40

Episode 112 (S4:E16): Talking Mental Health With Dr....

Wait, What? Sportsbiz Chat with DP & McGhee ·

2025/05/29

DP & McGhee had a packed show this week, including a great interview in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month with Dr. Mara Smith, a consultant to the USOPC. Dr. Mara works with athletes of all levels on the importance of mental wellness and fitness. As a former college gymnast, she brings a unique perspective to mental fitness and her thought on Simone Biles case of the twisties is particularly enlightening.Before the interview David and Tim talk about what will surely be the biggest

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