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The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession

Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals

Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.

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Ep 479 – Returning Symptoms with Doug Nelson

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2025/01/07

As a massage therapist, few things are more disheartening than hearing a client say their symptoms have returned. How should you approach this situation, and where do you begin? In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Doug Nelson invites us to explore new perspectives and shares four key reasons he believes are at the heart of recurring symptoms. Host: Douglas Nelson is Board Certified in Massage Therapy and Therapeutic Bodywork, beginning his career in massage therapy in 1977. Seeing over 1,200

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11:04

Ep 478 – Overcoming Inertia in Your Massage Business:...

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2024/12/20

Inertia in business is powerful. Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines talks through how to embrace change to improve your next year in business. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community. Author links: Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deepbreathcommunity/ Sponsors:

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15:34

Ep 477 – Clarity Keeps Friends Friends: “Business or...

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2024/12/13

A clear, ongoing written agreement of expectations is a great way to improve accountability and be a professional in every situation. Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines walks through some ideas and examples to gain clarity in collaborations. Resources: Sakinah Irazzary, Disparty in Healthcare https://www.2rmtsandamic.com/episodes/episode/df97a7bf/the-disparity-in-healthcare-with-guest-sakinah Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for

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19:26

Ep 476 – Marfan’s Syndrome and Scar Tissue: “I Have a...

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2024/12/10

A client with Marfan’s syndrome, a connective tissue disorder with dysfunctional collagen, has had multiple surgeries for a traumatic accident, and their scar tissue is restricting their ease of movement. Their massage therapist is concerned about how best to help them regain function. When I have questions about scar tissue, I go to the Scar Tissue Diva, Cathy Ryan. In this episode we discuss the difference between “challenging tissue” and working with the fluid environment to improve function.

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13:08

Ep 475 – Anatomy - A Marriage Between Westeros and...

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2024/12/03

Learning anatomy is hard. There's a lot of Latin, some funny names, and a LOT of categories. It’s kind of like a Game of Thrones book. But getting a grasp on it all might be a little easier if we lean into the in-between spaces. In this last episode of the year, Allison invites you to look at learning anatomy differently. Channel your inner Ponyo. And don't stop trying. Host Bio:         Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com            Allison’s

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11:28

Ep 474 – Old School Business Skills Still Work:...

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2024/11/22

Host Allissa Haines shares her plans to increase client numbers with old school methods like signage and referrals to tackling the tedium of SEO and website updates. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community. Author links: Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community Instagram:

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13:47

Ep 473 – Client Centeredness with Cindy Williams

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2024/11/19

Being client centered means we always make choices and act with the best interests and well-being of our clients. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Cindy Williams covers a variety of examples of client centeredness as a reminder of how we can bring this core ethical principle into our professional practices. Host Bio:         After earning a degree in Sociology from Indiana University in 1997, Cindy Williams stumbled upon her calling as a massage therapist and bodyworker. She completed

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25:46

Ep 472 – Lessons Learned from Client Experiences with...

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2024/11/12

Join Kristin Coverly as she asks massage therapy and bodywork experts Allison Denney and Dr. Joe Muscolino “What lesson did you learn from a memorable client experience?” and “How do you recognize and celebrate your victories?” Hear their responses on this episode of The ABMP Podcast and gain inspiration you can immediately apply to your personal and professional lives! Host Bio:         Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at

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10:44

Ep 471 – Making Decisions for 2025: “Business or...

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2024/11/08

The new year is a great time to make changes in your massage business. Host Allissa Haines works through the variables and options for change to make your business better, with less pressure. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community. Resources: https://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/969285-may-june-2018/86 Author

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17:27

Ep 470 – Pyoderma Gangrenosum: “I Have a Client Who ....

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2024/11/05

A client has a history of a very unusual and somewhat alarming condition: pyoderma gangrenosum. Can massage therapy be applied in this situation? Probably yes, but in specific circumstances. Listen to this episode of “I Have a Client Who . . .” to learn more and to hear host Ruth Werner get on one of her favorite soapboxes: the language of massage therapy. Host Bio:                   Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider

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15:11

Ep 469 – TMJ: Alrighty Then: “The Rebel MT” with...

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2024/10/29

The temporomandibular joint may be infamous for its disorder, but it is its complexity that lends us the ability to chew, grind, talk, and even to elevate a bland statement to an iconic moment of genius. In this episode of The Rebel MT, Allison takes a closer look at the incredible jaw, reflects on how understanding it better will boost our confidence with our work here, and hopes that we can explore how to talk more like Jim Carrey. Host: Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com

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11:24

Ep 468 – How to Manage Demand with Massage...

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2024/10/25

It’s wonderful to have loyal clients, but it can be tough balancing your loyal clients with other clients. Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines talks through ways to manage a sustainable schedule while keeping your most loyal clients well-served. Resources: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/the-wirecutter-show-podcast/ How to better serve your Neurodovergent clients:

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29:24

Ep 467 – Getting Off the Clock with Whitney Lowe

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2024/10/15

In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, host Whitney Lowe dives into the challenges of measuring educational outcomes in massage therapy training programs. He explores why simply tracking clock hours doesn’t equate to quality education and highlights the advantages of a competency-based learning approach. Tune in to learn how this shift can lead to better training outcomes and more skilled massage therapists. Host: Whitney Lowe is a known authority in the field of massage therapy, with a

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09:43

Ep 466 – Clear Communication in Your Massage...

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2024/10/11

Poor communication habits can wreck your reputation. Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines works through a listener’s recent frustrations about scheduling an appointment and lays out the steps for better communication with potential clients. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community. Author links:

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20:54

Ep 465 – TAVR Surgery: “I Have a Client Who . . .”...

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2024/10/08

A client had a complex surgical procedure on her heart two weeks prior, but it was conducted by way of a catheter threaded up her femoral artery and aorta. Now, she wants to receive massage again. A quick Google search suggests that it would be OK. Her MT is skeptical and wants to be more conservative. Who is right? Listen on for information about transcatheter aortic valve replacement (TAVR) surgery, using AI to make clinical decisions, and how to get to “yes” for people who have recently had

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14:36

Ep 464 -Tennis Elbow Anyone? “The Rebel MT” with...

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2024/10/01

Tennis elbow is a pain in the elbow when there is too much tennis-ing. And if it were that simple, life would be easy. Unfortunately, it never is, especially when it comes to anatomy. Join The Rebel MT host Allison Denney as she discloses not only her inability to play tennis but also her ability to know what is going on for a lot of people who play a lot of tennis. Host:                  Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com            Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com

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11:42

Ep 463 - It’s Not Personal—The Feelings of Client...

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2024/09/27

It can be easy to feel insulted by clients who ask for discounts, arrive late, or use the term “masseuse.” Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines walks through the policies and scripts to take the feelings out of these perceived slights. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community. Author links:

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24:03

Ep 462 – Understanding Tissue Relationships: Your...

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2024/09/24

As massage therapists, we spend a lot of time mastering anatomy—learning specialized vocabulary and the locations of muscles, bones, and nerves in the body. We can take our anatomy understanding even deeper by looking not just at where our client’s anatomy lives but also how their anatomy relates to each other: tissue relationships. In this third and final episode of the three-part series “Your Practice in 3D,” we discuss the concept of tissue relationships and how dissection lab trainings can

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33:08

Ep 461 - Calm Under Stress: The Ayurvedic Guide to...

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2024/09/17

The Ayurvedic approach to exercise suggests nasal breathing instead of mouth breathing during exercise to replace exercise stress with a chemistry of composure and calm. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Angie and Darren are joined by renowned Ayurvedic educator, Dr. John Douillard, to discuss what efficient breathing is and how to achieve it, why CO2 plays a role in nasal breathing, and how nasal breathing is critical for optimal flexibility and elasticity of the spine, head, neck and low back

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12:45

Ep 460 - A Spending Freeze to Reset Finances:...

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2024/09/13

A spending freeze can help reorganize and add intention to business finances. In this episode of Business or Pressure, Allissa talks through the steps to customize a spending freeze for your business. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community. Author links: Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community Instagram:

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