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ABA Business Leaders

Join us as we dive deep into the world of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), exploring real-world challenges and practical strategies to improve the quality, ethics, and sustainability of ABA services. Hosted by April & Stephen, the team behind 3 Pie Squared, each episode brings actionable insights for practice owners, clinicians, and leaders in the field—whether you’re just getting started or scaling your business.Expect candid conversations, expert interviews, and honest advice about

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78:39

Mastering Marketing- How to do local outreach right

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/03/07

Mastering Marketing – Local Outreach Done Right In this episode of 3 Pie Squared - ABA Business Leaders, we dive deep into the power of local outreach and ethical marketing for ABA practices. Marketing expert Matt Harrington, founder of ABA Digital Marketing, joins us to share actionable strategies for ABA business owners to build meaningful referral networks, enhance community connections, and stand out from corporate competitors. Matt explains why traditional marketing tactics—like dropping off

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84:59

How to scale your ABA Business

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/02/28

How to Scale Your ABA Business Scaling an ABA business is more than just adding clients—it requires financial planning, marketing strategies, and operational systems that support long-term success. In this episode of 3 Pie Squared - ABA Business Leaders, we dive into the key factors that determine whether your practice is truly ready to scale. Our guests, Matt Harrington, BCBA (abadigitalmarketing.com) and Johanna Eddy, CPA (Margin Keepers), share their expertise on: Avoiding common financial

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66:46

You Just Closed your ABA Company... Now what?

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/02/21

Closing an ABA practice is an emotional and strategic decision. In this episode, we sit down with Mallory Stinger, BCBA, who shares her journey of closing her ABA business after years of dedication. We discuss the challenges of letting go, managing emotions, and planning for what comes next. Whether you’re thinking about transitioning out of your practice or just curious about the process, this conversation provides valuable insights into ABA practice management, business transitions, and

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46:19

Red Flags in ABA Service Providers

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/02/14

Red Flags in ABA Service Providers As the ABA industry grows, so do the number of service providers offering support to ABA businesses. But how do you know who to trust? In this episode of the 3 Pie Squared - ABA Business Leaders podcast, Stephen and April discuss the major red flags to watch for when choosing consultants, service providers, and vendors for your ABA practice. From overpriced services to companies with no real ABA experience, we break down what to look for, what questions to ask, and

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71:54

Coaching Session- Discussing Onboarding with a New Owner

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/02/07

In this episode of the 3 Pie Squared - ABA Business Leaders podcast, hosts Stephen and April welcome Joseph Wilson, Operations Manager at Imagination Station. Joseph and his wife recently launched their ABA practice and are navigating the critical process of onboarding new staff. Together, they dive deep into the challenges and lessons learned when hiring, training, and supporting Registered Behavior Technicians (RBTs).Key topics covered include:The complexities of onboarding and credentialing new

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43:57

Would you Rather- Hiring in ABA

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/01/31

In this episode of 3 Pie Squared - ABA Business Leaders, we play a fun yet insightful game of "Would You Rather?" with Jennifer Holton, BCBA of Unique Pathways and Mallory Stinger, BCBA of Mallory Stinger ABA. We dive into tough hiring decisions for ABA practices in 2025, discussing the balance between hiring for experience versus cultural fit, the value of schedulers versus adding more BCBAs, and the impact of technology on onboarding and practice management. We also explore the challenges of paid

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37:07

Grow your own BCBAs vs. hiring- What you need to know

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/01/24

In this episode of ABA Business Leaders, April and Stephen dive into one of the most persistent challenges facing the ABA field—retention. From attracting top talent in a highly competitive market to building meaningful systems for employee support, they tackle the tough realities of hiring and retaining BCBAs and RBTs. Key topics include: The difficulties of finding qualified BCBAs in certain states. The pros and cons of "growing your own" BCBAs by fostering in-house training and development

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57:33

Aligning Leadership with Values: Behavioral...

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/01/17

Aligning Leadership with Values: Behavioral Intelligence in ABA with Dr. Paul Gavoni In this episode of 3 Pie Squared - ABA Business Leaders, Dr. Paul Gavoni (Dr. Paulie Gloves) joins us to explore how aligning leadership with core values can transform ABA practices. Drawing from his extensive experience in education, human services, and combat sports, Dr. Gavoni shares insights on Organizational Behavior Management (OBM), Acceptance and Commitment Training (ACT), and his innovative concept—the

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41:50

ABA Accreditation: Compliance or Commitment to Quality?

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/01/10

Accreditation is becoming a growing requirement for ABA practices, driven by regulatory boards and payers. In this episode, April and Stephen dive into the complexities of accreditation, discussing what it means for your business, its potential impact on quality standards, and the challenges faced by small practices. They explore the fine line between compliance and intention, questioning whether accreditation raises service quality or simply adds another layer of bureaucracy. If you’re feeling

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57:06

AI meets clinical decision making- Using AI to...

ABA Business Leaders ·

2025/01/03

In this episode of the 3 Pie Squared - ABA Business Leaders podcast, we sit down with Amanda Ralston, founder of Nonbinary Solutions and creator of Knowetic.AI, to discuss how AI is transforming clinical decision-making in the ABA field. Amanda shares her insights on balancing innovation and ethics, building effective clinical tools, and the importance of quality in ABA services. Learn how Knowetic.AI supports clinicians by providing structured pathways to improve patient outcomes and ensure medical

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63:00

Leadership in ABA: Building Values, Managing...

ABA Business Leaders ·

2024/12/27

In this episode of 3 Pie Squared - ABA Business Leaders, we’re joined by Martin Myers, BCBA and Chief Strategy Officer at Grateful Care ABA. Martin shares valuable insights on building strong ABA leadership, establishing meaningful relationships with staff, and driving progress in ABA practices. We discuss strategies for ABA practice management, setting clear expectations for staff, and aligning company values with actionable goals. Martin also highlights his passion projects, including

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63:00

Leadership, transparency, and collaboration in ABA...

ABA Business Leaders ·

2024/12/20

In this episode of 3 Pie Squared - ABA Business Leaders, we sit down with Jennifer Heidt, Director of Training at Above and Beyond Therapy. Jennifer shares her insights on fostering leadership, promoting transparency, and building collaboration within ABA organizations. We discuss challenges faced by RBTs and BCBAs, strategies for empowering staff, and the importance of creating supportive workplace cultures. Jennifer's extensive experience in clinical practice and leadership roles has equipped her

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57:48

Building Better ABA Care: Public Policy and Staff...

ABA Business Leaders ·

2024/12/13

In this episode of ABA Business Leaders presented by 3 Pie Squared, Alexandra Tomei, BCBA, joins us to discuss the intersection of public policy, clinical standards, and staff empowerment in ABA practices. As the Director of Clinical Standards at BlueSprig and a passionate advocate for public policy, Alexandra shares her insights on balancing operational efficiencies with individualized care, supporting RBTs and BCBAs, and fostering a culture that prioritizes quality and collaboration. We also

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57:01

Innovating ABA Practice with AI Solutions

ABA Business Leaders ·

2024/12/06

In this episode of the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, April and Stephen sit down with Michael Gao, the visionary CEO of Alpaca Health, to discuss how AI is revolutionizing the way ABA practices manage their documentation and streamline operations. Michael shares the journey behind Alpaca Health, a HIPAA-compliant platform designed to reduce administrative burdens on clinicians by automating session notes, treatment plans, and more. Tune in to explore: The challenges of balancing clinical work and

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79:46

How can we help? Using ACT with Meg Solomon.

ABA Business Leaders ·

2024/11/29

BLACK FRIDAY DEAL- https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Training_ProgramJoin hosts April and Stephen on the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, featuring Meg Solomon, founder and lead BCBA at ABA Across Environments. Meg shares her inspiring journey from corporate and culinary fields to establishing an agency rooted in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). Dive into the challenges and opportunities of aligning ABA practices with values-based approaches, supporting staff, and

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49:08

Lessons from the Field: Overcoming Staffing, Billing,...

ABA Business Leaders ·

2024/11/22

Episode Description In this special Halloween-themed episode of the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, co-hosts Stephen and April are joined by a distinguished panel of ABA business leaders to share their most hair-raising and enlightening experiences from the field. From staffing crises and recredentialing nightmares to tackling billing and authorization challenges, our panelists open up about the obstacles they've faced and the strategies they've used to overcome them. Meet Our Panelists: -

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72:08

I Hate My Job: Exploring Real Solutions

ABA Business Leaders ·

2024/11/15

In this episode, hosts April and Stephen tackle complex issues within ABA therapy, addressing common criticisms, ethical concerns, and the passionate debate around its practices. They discuss the importance of compassion in ABA, the need for meaningful collaboration, and setting clear boundaries as practitioners. Diving into reactions and critiques from social media, April and Stephen advocate for quality care that respects clients’ individual needs and dignity. Join them as they explore actionable

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39:17

I Hate My Job: Reactions to Posts

ABA Business Leaders ·

2024/11/08

Join hosts Steven and April in the Three Pi Squared ABA Business Leaders Podcast as they explore the ins and outs of building ethical, sustainable ABA practices. In this episode, they react to ABA-related TikToks. Some from very happy behavior techs, and some not so much. While they face the reality of being a behavior technician in 2024, they also share insights on staff wellbeing, company ethics, and self-care in the field. Whether you're a practitioner or business owner, tune in to learn how to

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59:52

I Hate My Job: Real Stories of Ethical Dilemmas

ABA Business Leaders ·

2024/11/01

In this episode, we dive into real stories from ABA professionals, tackling the ethical challenges and workplace struggles that are all too common in the field. With so many nuances in client management and staffing, setting up a practice can feel overwhelming. For those starting out or looking to refine their approach, we recommend our free start-up list as a foundational guide: https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/the_aba_business_start_up_list. And for those ready to join a network of ABA

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60:14

I Hate My Job: Voicing the Frustrations of ABA...

ABA Business Leaders ·

2024/10/25

In this episode of I Hate My Job: Voicing the Frustrations of ABA Professionals, we react to real-life stories shared by ABA professionals facing ethical dilemmas, burnout, and communication breakdowns in their workplaces. We explore the importance of advocating for oneself and clients while maintaining ethical standards, even in challenging work environments.For those starting an ABA practice or looking to ensure everything is in place for their established business, our free start-up list can

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