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Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.

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22:30

Embodying Hope

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/11/26

Thomas offers insights on how we can generate and maintain hope, exploring hope as a skill and a practice rather than just a belief. He defines hope as the presence of agency—something that we can actively influence and co-create with each other. Many who have suffered trauma find it difficult to maintain presence and tend to view this as a negative thing. But Thomas offers a different perspective. He explains that being pulled “out of the moment” is an intelligent function that helps us survive

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47:42

Dr. Robert Waldinger | The Surprising Truth About...

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/11/19

Thomas is joined by Dr. Robert Waldinger, a psychiatry professor and the director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development, to explore the secrets to human happiness and thriving. They discuss the profound insights gained from the longest-running study on human happiness, revealing how relationships, stress regulation, and having a strong sense of purpose shape our health and longevity. Dr. Waldinger shares the factors in our lives that we can adjust to have greater agency over our happiness, and

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11:03

BONUS: Being Rooted in an Ancestral Context

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/11/14

In this special bonus episode, Thomas examines the role of our ancestors in our lives and how lessons from the past can help us heal and evolve as humans. Our ancestors have left us with many gifts, but have also burdened us with unintegrated trauma. By learning how to connect to our roots and integrate those fragmented pieces of the past, we can bring light, creativity, innovation, and resilience into our legacies. And by doing this work in combination with personal and collective healing, we can

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01:18:36

Margaret Wheatley | Becoming a Warrior for the Human...

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/11/12

Thomas is joined by Margaret Wheatley, a writer, teacher, speaker, and organizational consultant whose work focuses on summoning and training leaders who can step up to guide us in building new systems based on shared values, instead of trying to reform the destructive and corrupted systems that currently threaten life on this planet. Thomas and Margaret start from the ground up, exploring how collectives and cultures emerge and how they operate, incorporating wisdom from science and biology. They

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30:47

How Healthy Relationships Create Collective Healing

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/11/05

Welcome to the 100th episode of Point of Relation! We’re so excited to share this milestone with you and we’re incredibly grateful to all of our listeners for their continued support. In this episode, Thomas Hübl explores the concept of relational presence, an essential component of healing personal and collective trauma and nurturing healthy and fulfilling relationships in our lives. Thomas shares the fundamentals of presence, why it’s such an important element of the way we communicate, and how

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55:17

Roger Walsh | Making a Difference in Times of Crisis

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/10/29

Thomas is joined by Professor of Psychiatry, Philosophy, and Anthropology, and host of the Deep Transformation Podcast, Roger Walsh. They dive deep into how each of us can leverage our unique skills and capacities to help solve the many crises humanity is facing. It can be overwhelming to view complex, interconnected problems like climate change, war, and political unrest, and feel like you’re powerless to make a difference. Thomas and Roger assert that we must be willing to face our fears, be

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29:48

Ancestral Healing

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/10/22

Thomas discusses the importance of ancestral healing and explores how to develop a felt sense of connection with our ancestors. Connection is essential to healing, and connecting with both the wisdom and the unintegrated traumas of our ancestors helps us to be more present and grounded in our own lives, and accelerates our personal and collective healing. Our ancestors have handed us a wealth of resources, and also a whole lot of unfinished business. Thomas explores how we can connect to the sacred

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49:34

Elise Loehnen | Owning Our Collective Shadow

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/10/15

Thomas Hübl and New York Times bestselling author Elise Loehnen discuss the often misunderstood realms of shadow work and collective trauma. They explore how facing our inner darkness can lead to profound personal and societal transformation, and share practical insights on integrating the messy, painful parts of ourselves for spiritual growth and global healing. Without awareness, whatever is being suppressed in the deep layers of our collective shadow will be passed on to future generations. But

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14:15

Bonus: Guided Awareness Meditation

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/10/10

Thomas guides a meditation to help you drop into your body, embrace the sensations and emotions that arise, and use your awareness to help regulate your nervous system, open your heart space, and start to feel more grounded. ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Order Thomas’ new book, “Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma–And Our World” here: 👉 https://www.attunedbook.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and

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32:19

Healing Through Compassionate Awareness

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/10/08

Thomas Hübl explores the intricate relationship between trauma, healing, and spirituality. He explains that trauma is not defined by the events we experience but by our inner responses to overwhelming situations, often leading to emotional, mental, and even societal stagnation. He discusses how we can reintegrate the frozen parts of ourselves to support growth, creativity, and deeper connections, and how healing trauma opens us to deeper love and relational awareness. With consistent spiritual

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44:37

Ayọ Tometi | Collective Healing Through Activism

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/10/01

Thomas is joined by human rights leader and co-founder of #BlackLivesMatter, Ayọ Tometi, to discuss the powerful connection between activism and healing. Ayọ shares her journey to becoming an activist and her perspective on collective healing, focusing on the power of storytelling and the importance of acknowledging our collective pain. She and Thomas explore how creating spaces for deep listening and shared experiences can transform communities, and practical ways to contribute to social change

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46:45

Helena Norberg-Hodge | Local Action for Systemic Healing

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/09/24

Thomas is joined by Helena Norberg-Hodge, a bestselling author, filmmaker, and pioneer of the new economy movement. They discuss the fundamental importance of reconnecting with nature, local food systems, and community as antidotes to the damaging impacts of globalization. She shares her experiences working with Indigenous cultures and explores how localization not only heals people and places but also addresses major issues like climate change, food security, and social fragmentation. Together,

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32:00

Attunement: Connecting to the Flow of Life

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/09/17

In this solo episode, Thomas unravels the mysteries of attunement. Discover how this practice goes far beyond conventional emotional intelligence and continues into deeper connections and spiritual growth. Uncover the keys to transparent communication, trauma healing, and accessing subtle spiritual information for personal and collective transformation. ✨ Join us at the 2024 Collective Healing Conference This free, 8-day, online event features conversations with a diverse lineup of 40+ luminaries

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08:46

Realigning With Divine Law

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/09/12

In this special bonus episode, Thomas reads Verse 25 from the Tao Te Ching, offers his analysis, and shares how we can come back to living a life that is more informed by inner balance in a world that is often out of balance. This episode is dedicated to a cherished member of our team, the late Digo Delgado. His adventurous spirit, kindness, and laugh touched everyone who had the privilege of knowing him. We dedicate this episode in loving memory to Digo, with gratitude for all of his contributions

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52:29

Roshi Joan Halifax | Compassion as the Key to Resilience

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/09/10

Thomas is joined by Buddhist teacher, Founder and head teacher of Upaya Zen Center, social activist, and author, Roshi Joan Halifax. They discuss Roshi Joan’s pioneering work in end-of-life care, and how spirituality can inform and inspire more compassionate activism. Roshi Joan shares her insights on how decades of practice have equipped her to navigate suffering with resilience, how compassion benefits both the giver and receiver, and the importance of embracing moral challenges with grace. She

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01:09:36

Dr. Diane Poole Heller | Healing Attachment Wounds

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/09/03

Thomas is joined by internationally recognized speaker, author, and expert in the field of attachment theory and trauma resolution, Dr. Diane Poole Heller. They discuss Diane’s work in attachment theory, exploring how our early experiences with our caregivers affect our attachment styles, and what we can do to move into secure attachment in our relationships. Dr. Heller views trauma as a broken connection—with ourselves, our lives, the earth, or other people—and explains how therapists and healers

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32:23

The Essence of Life

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/08/27

Thomas shares deep insights into how we can embody the soul's wisdom and increase our capacity to be present and form a deeper alliance with life. He shares tools and practices for becoming more grounded and spacious in our daily lives, and in challenging situations, and how that gives us the courage, curiosity, and strength to turn difficulties into growth, expansion, and wisdom. He also offers embodiment practices to help us connect our physical and emotional data streams, creating a more coherent

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53:42

Julia Kim | Holistic Economic Healing

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/08/20

Thomas is joined by global wellbeing and wellbeing economics expert, program facilitator, and researcher, Julia Kim. They discuss how Bhutan's holistic approach to economics, deeply rooted in spiritual and cultural values, prioritizes individual and collective happiness and wellbeing over profit and expansion of capital. Julia explains the concept of Gross National Happiness (GNH) in Bhutan, contrasting it with the more conventional measure of Gross Domestic Product (GDP), and how this system is

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50:47

Ruth King | The Medicine of Dharma

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/08/13

Thomas is joined by celebrated author, educator, and meditation teacher, Ruth King. They explore the profound responsibilities and perspectives that come with eldership and the importance of presence in guiding others. Ruth shares her wisdom on racial healing, the power of community, and the role of artistry as cultural medicine. She and Thomas explore the healing potential of mindful communication and the value of embracing impermanence to alleviate suffering. Ruth also shares reflections on

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01:02:46

V | Wound as a Portal Into a New World

Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl ·

2024/08/06

Thomas is joined by playwright, author, performer, activist, and creator of “The Vagina Monologues,” V (formerly Eve Ensler.) They discuss the profound impact of trauma and the power of healing through collective and community-based approaches. V shares her personal journey from a tumultuous childhood to becoming a global advocate for women's rights, emphasizing the transformative power of love, art, performance, and community in overcoming trauma and reckoning with the harms of patriarchy. They

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