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Whatever Comes Next with Tom Osman

Getting to know the music makers out on the fringes

On Whatever Comes Next I explore the world of independent and underground music making. I talk with music makers, producers and label owners to hear their stories. I like music with a sense of mystery. I like surprises and unique stories... and noise... and weirdness... and darkness... and I want to learn more. tomosman.substack.com

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Episode 59: Dan St. Jacques (The Hammer Party, Landed)

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2025/03/04

Dan St. Jacques has proven himself to be a rock n' roll lifer. Coming up in the more experimental realms of alternative rock and post punk in Providence, Rhode Island, St. Jacques has featured in more bands than you have fingers.With St. Jacques' latest band The Hammer Party currently working on new material, the vocalist, and sometime bass player looks back on his musical upbringing and some of the bands he's played in, played with, or been inspired by.Closing track: Tiamat's Revenge (Psychic

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Episode 58: KARLA KVLT

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2025/02/25

Hamburg, Germany's KARLA KVLT blend the percussive power of early Swans, the doomy, droning proto-metal of Black Sabbath and the hypnotic tones of vocalist/ bassist Teresa Matilda Curtens (coming across like some kind of shoegaze/dream-pop singer, if the dream were apocalyptic). Father and son, guitarist (and former EISENVATER frontman) Markus E. Lipka and drummer Johann Wientjes (who also plays with wife Curtens in MELTING PALMS) join me to discuss Thunderhunter, the very different musical worlds

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Episode 57: Richard Johnson (Drugs of Faith,...

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2025/02/18

Richard Johnson's work in the underground music world stretches back to the early 90s. From his fanzine Disposable Underground (now an online music blog) to his early recording work with Enemy Soil, Johnson has spent plenty of time writing, performing and writing about music. Asymmetrical (released this Friday on Selfmadegod Records and Malokul) is the latest release (and first album in 14 years) from one of Johnson's current bands Drugs of Faith — and a blistering grind n' roll explosion it is too

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Episode 56: Mike Baggetta (mssv)

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2025/02/11

American guitarist, composer (and more recently singer) Mike Baggetta has been making music for over 20 years—whether as a sideman or lead songwriter. For his most recent project mssv (Main Steam Stop Valve) Baggetta brought in two of the best musicians you could reasonably hope to play with to realise his musical vision: Mike Watt (Minutemen, fIREHOSE, The Stooges, Porno For Pyros etc) on bass and Stephen Hodges (Tom Waits, David Lynch etc) on drums. The band's latest record On And On (out March

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Episode 55: Endless Dive

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2025/02/04

Formed as a four-piece ten years ago, Belgian, instrumental-rock group Endless Dive were reduced to the duo of Pierre Van Vlaenderen and Nathan Mondez prior to the making of their latest record Souvenances (released on the 28th of February, via Floral Records and Luik). Drawing together guitars, electronic textures and old, childhood VHS recordings, Souvenances is like a long-lost audio photo book discovered in an attic. Evocative and beautiful. Pierre and Nathan discuss the making of the record,

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Episode 54: OCRE

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2025/01/28

OCRE is Pierrick A. and Damien A., an alternative-rock duo based in Clermont Ferrand, France. On the 21st of February this year the band releases their debut, full-length record, So Often Lifeblood Comes From Ashes via Atypeek Music, Araki Records and Urgence Disk. Pierrick joins me to discuss the album, songwriting, how Covid influenced his vocal style, our shared love of Sonic Youth, his enduring relationship with Damien, Birds in Row, playing live and the necessary evils of social media.Photo

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Episode 53: Me (with Michael Quinn)

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2025/01/21

Last year I released Real Silence, an album of experimental-electro spoken word with Augurio Drama. My friend Michael Quinn suggested interviewing me about the album. I thought it would make for a fun episode of the podcast. So here's me being interviewed in my flat in Glasgow.Thanks to Existent/NonExistent for the artwork.Thanks to Sara Salomon for the graphic design. Check out Real Silence on Drama RecorderPodcast artwork and logo: https://www.garjk.com/ Intro music: "Detachment" by Tom

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Episode 52: Häxkapell

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2025/01/14

Häxkapell is a partly black metal project that incorporates folk, as well as other metal elements. Led by vocalist and multi-instrumentalist Oraklet, Om jordens blod och urgravens grepp is the second album from the project and released on Nordvis this Friday. Oraklet joins me to discuss the light and the dark of the latest record, his experiences with subconscious writing, growing up as a metalhead and some of his other musical projects.Photo credit: Ludvig SwärdClosing track: "Metamorfos" (Nordvis,

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Episode 51: Sleepbomb

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2025/01/07

San Francisco's Sleepbomb make heavy, psychedelic, atmospheric metal and lay this intense sonic landscape on top of iconic movies.Most recently the band has created a companion to scenes from George A. Romero's classic horror movie Night of the Living Dead, entitled The Sleeping Dead.With the 24th of January seeing the album's release on Koolarrow / Consouling Sounds, the band's Tim Gotch and Charlie Hernandez join me to discuss the album and some of their other compositions from Sleepbomb's two

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Episode 50: Michael Blenkarn-Durning (An Axis Of...

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2024/12/31

On the 13th of December, 2024 An Axis Of Perdition (the long-running highly-conceptual, extreme-metal project of Michael Blenkarn-Durning and Brooke Johnson) released their latest album Apertures on Apocalyptic Witchcraft Recordings. A couple of months earlier I caught up with Michael to reflect on the two parallel creative impulses that drive his music making—on the one hand the urban, industrialised mode that comes out in An Axis Of Perdition, alongside the fascination with the natural world that

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Episode 49: DUNN with LORDS AND LADY KEVIN

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2024/12/24

Last days at hot slit is the latest musical offering from former Cows bassist Kevin Rutmanis. Having started his own solo project during Covid lockdown (initially as Lord Kevin and His Slide Bass), Rutmanis has since collaborated with drummer/artist Gina Skwoz and multi-instrumentalist Trevor Dunn (of Mr Bungle and too many other projects to mention). The latest record is the first to feature all three of them together and they're altogether in this interview too … with me. And oh what a pleasure to

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Episode 48: Ian Lanspeary (Common Wounds)

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2024/12/17

All Night Blood is a powerful, fiery and emotive rock record by Phoenix, Arizona post-hardcore quintet Common Wounds (out now on Protagonist Music). While the record is the band's full-length debut, guitarist and vocalist Ian Lanspeary has been making music for over 20 years. We delve into Ian's musical upbringing, some of the many musical inspirations that found their way onto the latest record, songwriting and how the musical landscape has changed for independent artists over the past two decades

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Episode 47: Maura Pond (Luna Honey)

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2024/12/10

Maura Pond, Benjamin Schurr and Levi Flack have been releasing music together as Luna Honey for seven years. In that time they’ve released six studio albums, each of them its own unique sonic document. The latest record, Bound, is at times reminiscent of artists as diverse as Scott Walker, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Coil and Swans. In Luna-Honey land the tone is often dark, but there’s a playfulness and delight in absurdity, allowing the listener to have fun (even while feeling slightly unnerved).

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Episode 46: F**k Your Birthday

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2024/12/03

When garage/punk rock duo Christopher Henry and Roman Meisenberg started making music together in West Virginia as F**k Your Birthday, they probably didn’t imagine they'd end up living and playing in Wenzhou, China, but you never know where life will take you.Chris and Roman discuss their latest EP BBQd (out now on Nefarious Industries), adapting to life in China, other musical projects and how they both jumped from teaching to follow careers in mixing and music production (Chris) and photography

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Episode 45: Nikos Vlachakis (Föhn)

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2024/11/26

Formed in 2016 by friends and former bandmates Georgios Schoinianakis and Nikos Vlachakis, Föhn is a funeral-doom project based out of Athens, Greece.After several years crafting the tracks that would become debut album Condescending, the lineup of Föhn was completed in 2023, with bassist Georgios Miliaras joining before the now three-piece band entered the studio to create one of the most sonically and emotionally heavy albums of 2024.Vocalist Vlachakis discusses the album, his enduring friendship

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Episode 44: Jona Nido (Coilguns, Humus Records)

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2024/11/19

Five years on from their last studio album, Watchwinders, Swiss noise-rock group Coilguns return with a new addition on bass and synths (Kevin Galland) and an evolution in their sound with latest record Odd Love. Guitarist and founding member Jona Nido talks about the record, Humus Records (the label he started for Coilguns that has grown to put out music by dozens of bands), being the band's tour manager and more. Band photos: Andy Ford (@AndyFordUK) Closing track: "Generic Skincare" (Humus

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Episode 43: Tamás Kátai (Thy Catafalque)

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2024/11/12

To call XII: A gyönyörű álmok ezután jönnek (the 12th record by Thy Catafalque) avantgarde metal doesn’t quite give a full picture, but then no simple classification really could. Born out of black metal roots, the band (originally a duo) has evolved to take in everything from prog rock, Hellenic folk music and alternative rock (with extreme metal still a major component of the latest record ). Tamás Kátai discusses the album in detail, touching on performing, songwriting and some of his own

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Episode 42 Veilburner

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2024/11/05

Since their formation in 2014 Veilburner have been carving out their own particular place in the realm of extreme metal. Honing their unique brand of experimental dissonant blackened death metal, the duo of Mephisto Deleterio and Chrisom Infernium have created a musical, visual and mythic world that is all their own — with the duo operating behind a mysterious masked appearance that evolves with each album. Back in early 2019 (following the release of the band's fourth album, A Sire to the Ghouls of

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Episode 41: Django Haskins (The Old Ceremony)

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2024/10/29

Earthbound is the new album by noir-pop band The Old Ceremony — a collection of beautifully constructed songs, from a band led since its formation in 2004 by singer and multi-instrumentalist Django Haskins. Although it's been nine years since the band's last album, you can be sure that Django, (with his various other projects, teaching and family commitments) hasn't been twiddling his thumbs at any point. We discuss the latest record, Django's songwriting, his many years of performing, influences,

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Episode 40: God Bullies

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2024/10/22

As Above, So Below — the first God Bullies album in 30 years, recently released on Reptilian Records — has a very different lineup to the last time the band appeared on record, but the story of frontman and founding member Mike Hard and guitarist Scott Kodrik goes back many years. The two discuss some of the many tales from decades spent navigating the noise-rock underground, from their peculiar first meeting, their time together in Thrall and how this new iteration of God Bullies came about and

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