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The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter

Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter

Helping Singers, Songwriters, and Indie Artists Create Leverage In the Music Business.

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53:01

Ep 473: Pitching and Moaning (Unprofessional...

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/04/22

CLIMBer, there's good persistence and there's bad persistence. Unfortunately, I've gotten an up-close view of bad persistence recently. Let's talk about it - so YOU can avoid this mistake and its consequences!The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis,

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21:14

Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: How to Ruin A...

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/04/18

This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com! The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business."

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78:30

Ep 472: Interview with Founder & CEO of Girlilla,...

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/04/15

Our guest today, Jennie Smythe, is the founder and CEO of Girlilla Digital Marketing Agency, whose current roster includes Willie Nelson, Blondie, Brooke Shields, Darius Rucker, Jason Aldean, Rascal Flatts, and Vince Gill, to name a few. Jennie has been one of the messiahs shepherding the music industry into the 21st century of digital marketing. Many of you will relate to her rough, gritty past and be inspired by her story, which is told, warts and all, in her tell-all book that drops today,

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50:44

Song Title Challenge #188: "Jelly Donuts" w/ Ben Glover

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/04/11

Johnny & Brent welcome Grammy Award-winning songwriter and producer, Ben Glover, who's penned and produced 40 number one songs in multiple genres of music and was named ASCAP's Christian Songwriter of the Year in 2010, 2012, 2013, 2015, and 2016. He also produced "Hey World" by Lee Brice, including the number one song "One of Them Girls". We cook up 5-6 different conceptual angles for writing a song titled, "Jelly Donuts," sent in by CLIMBer, Hank Stansfield. The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to

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76:32

Ep 471: A.I. vs Human with Mason Douglas

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/04/08

What place does a human demo producer/musician/singer have in the dawning world of A.I. demos? Today, we welcome long-time friend of the pod, Mason Douglas, to the show to discuss the downstream effects and viability of humans in the A.I. music business.The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan

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21:02

Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: What You Need To...

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/04/04

This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com!The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business."

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63:22

Ep 470: Interview w/ CCM Artist Rachel Purcell

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/04/01

If you like fantastic, heartfelt, authentic artists, you'll love this interview with recording artist and songwriter, Rachel Purcell! Rachel shares her beautiful vulnerability as she recounts what it's like to be an artist, have a deal, lose a deal, get a new deal, and all the raw human emotions in between.The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! About the hosts: Brent Baxter is

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44:58

Song Title Challenge #187: "Jury's Out" w/ Chat GPT

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/03/28

Today, Brent & Johnny welcome our most famous guest to the challenge: A.I. in the form of ChatGPT! Listen to us hash out the song title "Jury's Out," sent in by CLIMBer, Sundi Jo Graham. Then we go to Chat GPT to see if any other ideas are worthy!The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson

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54:01

Ep 469: A.I. Demos-Friend Or Foe?

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/03/25

CLIMBer, some of y'all are using AI to demo your songs. Is that smart, or is it sacrilegious? Does it save you money or sell your soul? People have big feelings about this, and we're going to dive into it today on The CLIMB. So listen up!About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS

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11:29

Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: Facts vs. Truth

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/03/21

This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com!The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business."

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76:14

Ep 468: Interview w/ Former Taylor Swift Manager,...

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/03/18

CLIMBers! How much could you learn listening to the former manager of the most successful artist on the planet today? Find out in this episode as we interview former Taylor Swift Manager, Rick Barker.Click Here To Take The Free A&R Quiz: https://musicindustryblueprint.com/ About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by

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27:22

Song Title Challenge #186: "Still Looking" w/ Hit...

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/03/14

Brent & Johnny welcome hit songwriter, Dan Demay, (Joie & Rory, Tracy Bird, Darryl Worley, Martina McBride, Tracy Lawrence) to The Challenge to dream up 5-6 different conceptual approaches to writing a song titled "Still Looking," sent in by CLIMBer, Jennifer Katusha. About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them

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42:43

Ep 467: Powerful Songwriting Advice From The G.O.A.T.s

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/03/11

CLIMBer, Ashley Gorley, Diane Warren, Tom Douglas, Max Martin: They're some of the greatest songwriters in history, and we're diving into some of their best quotes about songwriting today on The CLIMB. So listen up!Vote For Us In The Arkansas Country Music Awards 2025: Arkansas Country Music Awards 2025 About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He

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17:59

Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: What To Ask Before...

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/03/07

This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com!The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business."

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Ep 466: How To Avoid The Biggest Music Promotion...

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/03/04

CLIMBers, I don't want to see you make the same, all-too-common, promotion mistakes I see indie artists and the music industry making...Every. Single. Day. This episode is going to change everything. About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan Jackson (“Monday Morning Church”), Randy Travis, Lady A, Joe Nichols, Ray Stevens, Gord Bamford and more. He helps songwriters turn pro by helping them WRITE like a pro, DO BUSINESS like a pro and CONNECT to the

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39:18

Song Title Challenge #185: "People Pleaser" w/ Hit...

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/02/28

Brent & Johnny welcome hit songwriter with six #1's (Rodney Atkins, Reba McEntire, George Strait, Alabama, The Oak Ridge Boys, and more), Steve Dean, to the Challenge where they create 5-6 different conceptual angles for a song titled, "People Pleaser," sent in by CLIMBer, Lauren Ann Yule.If you want to WRITE like a pro, you need to THINK like a pro, and these episodes show you how the pros think. So listen up. About the hosts: Brent Baxter is an award-winning hit songwriter with cuts by Alan

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72:10

Ep 465: Interview w/ Hit Songwriter/Producer Trey Bruce

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/02/25

Johnny & Brent welcome Hit Songwriter with TEN #1's (Randy Travis, Diamond Rio, Lee Roy Parnell, ZZ Top, Black Stone Cherry, Faith Hill, Leann Rimes, Lynyrd Skynyrd Trisha Yearwood, Reba McEntire, Carrie Underwood, Duff McKagan) and Hit Producer, Trey Bruce, to the pod. Trey signed The Brothers Osbourne and Chris Janson among others.Connect With Our Guest, Trey Bruce Here: Instagram: @MusicLoveWar Website: TreyBruce.com LinkedIn: @TreyBruce Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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9:09

Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: Dandelion Songwriters

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/02/21

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55:06

Ep 464: Interview w/ CCM Artist, Natalie Layne

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/02/18

CLIMBers, today we're joined by the incredibly talented soul-inspired pop singer, songwriter, worship leader, and producer who radiates joy through her music. She's a classically trained pianist with a signature blend of jazz, funk, and pop. She has toured with artists like Chris Tomlin, Jeremy Camp, and We The Kingdom. She's also headlined full band sets at Bonnaroo, twice, and was named a Pandora Artist To Watch. With her Centricity music debut album All Joy set to drop on February 21st, our

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36:10

Song Title Challenge #184: "Growth Rings" w/ Kris...

The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter ·

2025/02/14

Johnny & Brent welcome emerging Nashville songwriter, Kris Crepeau to the Challenge, where they craft 5-6 different conceptual angles for writing a song entitled "Growth Rings," sent in by CLIMBer, Levena Stewart. He writes during the day and works at the Bluebird Cafe at night. He has several cuts with up-and-coming independent artists. He has written with several hit writers including Mark Irwin, Adam James, Brian Davis, Josh Phillips, Marty Dotson, Clay Mills, and Matt Rogers.We want you to

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