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System of Systems

Adam Lehrer, Matthew Denicola

All culture is propaganda. Everything you hold dear is connected to that which subjugates you. Deconstruct art, culture, and politics, and attempt to understand the pervasive conformism that has saturated it all. Hosted by Adam Lehrer and Matthew DeNicola patreon.com/systemofsystems safetypropaganda.substack.com x.com/SystemofSystem3 x.com/safetypropagan1 x.com/mattiopattio

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15:06

PREVIEW Fantasy Core is Over (W/ Grant Tyler)

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2023/04/28

Our friend from Los Angeles, the curator of the new LA gallery Imperial as well as online editor of Caesura Magazine Grant Tyler, joins the show to discuss the inability of the modern subject to properly look at art, the genius of Cezanne, Giacometti, Cy Twombly, the most consequential historical pinpoints of the last 50 years, the art world after the pandemic, Kanye (always some Kanye) and so much more. SOUNDTRACK Eric's Trip "Follow" Seigneur Voland "et autres germes de pourriture" Eyeless in

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01:50:54

Aspirational Mid (w/ Eva and Elena Sullivan)

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2023/04/20

During Art Basel Miami Beach 2022, Hadrian Belove asked Adam to meet up with him at Soho House, where he was with two young ladies Eva and Elena Sullivan. When Adam arrived, he was immediately taken with the gals' intelligence and savvy. Turns out, Eva and Elena are fashion designers behind the new brand Sullivan, which creates beautiful and elegant clothing for women at a price point that is much less depressing than something like, say, The Row. Given that we seldom discuss fashion around here

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01:50:33

UNLOCKED Attacking the Castle from Within (W/ BILLY...

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2023/04/18

Around August of 2022, Adam opened up his email to find what was a message of profound encouragement, and could hardly believe it when it was addressed from "William Patrick Corgan," otherwise known as the frontman of Adam's first ever favorite band The Smashing Pumpkins. But that's exactly who it was. Billy had read Adam's 2021 book 'Communions' and, from there, a creative camaraderie developed. Now, Billy is on SOS by SP and completing the circle. Here, the icon of rock discusses fatherhood, the

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01:32:20

Raver Symbolism (W/ Tom Koehler)

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2023/04/03

Friend of the show and visual artist Tom Koehler brings Adam into his studio in Ridgewood, shows him some new landscape paintings, and discusses his art, the gallery that he runs, plastic surgery, weed paranoia, quitting nicotine, and even his stint as a member of the power electronics group Sharpwaist. Dig on it... SOUNDTRACK: Sharpwaist "Amyl Nitrate" (attached) The Sadist "Penis in Pussy" (attached) Ravendark's Monarhical Canticle "Anti-Hunamismo Patrio" (attached) Alternative TV "Why Don't you

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01:22:03

Riding the Trenwave: Safety Propaganda Records (W/...

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2023/03/24

What started as a Substack and a podcast but became a prolonged conceptual art project IS NOW a full-circuit multimedia assault! Making good on his promise to broaden Safety Propaganda's reach, Adam launches SAFETY PROPAGANDA RECORDS in more attempts to aesthetically unbrainwash the masses. Text, image and NOW SOUND to break the programming and see the truth, for real. And who better to launch the label with than one of our best friends Zac Davis, he of Lambsbread and assorted experimental noise

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01:49:47

Shadow Ring Covers (W/ Eric Schmid and Connor Tomaka)

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2023/03/14

Artist/philosopher/mathematician Eric Schmid and artist, researcher, and member of industrial music collective Ono Connor Tomaka join SOS by SP. We discuss Connor and Eric's recent collaborative essay on Dimes Square, in my mind the only one of many Dimes thinky pieces to get it right, as well as the connections between mathematics and art, Reza, Brassier, the state of noise music, Shadow Ring covers, Fassbinder, and a whole lot more... Soundtrack: Mauthausen Orchestra "The Hole" (attached)

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PREVIEW Fear of Lewdness (w/ Cliff Sargent)

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2023/02/27

Cliff Sargent runs the very popular Youtube literary show Better than Food where he offers his candid thoughts on the books he reads. He has excellent taste, and is capable of communicating his thoughts in a refreshingly legible manner: Bataille, Clarice Lispector, Cormac McCarthy and even Adam have all been reviewed on his show (and his influence is proven by the spike in book sales Communications enjoyed following his review.) Here, Adam and Cliff talk about Bataille, books, black metal,

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01:56:27

Romping and Stomping (w/ Marika Thunder)

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2023/02/21

Marika Thunder is a New York-based artist who befriended the crew somewhere during the pandemic. Here, her and Adam discuss heroin, hard drugs, creative development, and Marika regales him with tales of her bohemian childhood as the only daughter of visual artist Rita Ackermann and experimental musician David Nuss... OST: Spike in Vain "God on Drugs" https://music.apple.com/us/album/god-on-drugs/1556150663?i=1556150666 The Sensational Alex Harvey Band "Rock and

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01:36:57

Copenhagen Cowpunks (W/ Bradford Kessler and Glen...

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2023/01/27

In this episode, brothers in arms Adam, Will, artist Bradford Kessler and Rare Candy co-host Glen Rockney convene to discuss Nicolas Winding Refn's new six-hour Netflix series Copenhagen Cowboy, and the broader career arc of the Danish auteur. Other topics include feminism, bodybuilding, Friedkin,Spengler, and I don't remember what else. Love. Hate. Can ya feel it? CAN YOU FEEL IT? SOUNDTRACK: Cliff Martinez "Miu Stretches" The Skeptics "Notice" Aaliyah "Are you that Somebody" Anti-Cimex

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21:32

PREVIEW Attacking the Castle from Within (W/ BILLY...

System of Systems ·

2023/01/09

Around August of 2022, Adam opened up his email to find what was a message of profound encouragement, and could hardly believe it when it was addressed from "William Patrick Corgan," otherwise known as the frontman of Adam's first ever favorite band The Smashing Pumpkins. But that's exactly who it was. Billy had read Adam's 2021 book 'Communions' and, from there, a creative camaraderie developed. Now, Billy is on SOS by SP and completing the circle. Here, the icon of rock discusses fatherhood, the

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01:54:01

Emperor Bezos (W/ Lev Parker)

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2023/01/06

Old friend, colleague within the Counter-Agency of the Avant-Garde, and editor of Morbid Books Lev Parker stops by SOS by SP once more to discuss collaborating with Adam on the Morbid Books-published Safety Propaganda Manifesto for Conceptual Warfare. There is also much discussion about the absolute collapse of competence in the modern world, and the possibility that a Bezos emperorship might be the only thing that can make things work again. Finally, Lev talks about his collaborative musical and

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14:22

PREVIEW Flame it All (W/ Kevin Kautzman and Brad Kelly)

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2022/12/16

The men of Art of Darkness podcast, Brad Kelly and Kevin Kautzman, join Adam to discuss Kanye and the legacy of endurance based performance art, the appeal of performance enhancing drugs, the late playwright Sarah Kane, Emil Cioran and the upcoming third season of their show. FULL EPISODE HERE SOUNDTRACK: Outpatients "TV Violence" Big Flame "Debra" Radical Retards "Elvis" DJ Freak "Analogue Terror" Ike and Tina "I Idolize You" LINKS: Art of Darkness at Twitter: @artofdarkpod Kevin at

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01:34:20

Conservacucking (w/ Glen Rockney)

System of Systems ·

2022/12/08

Old friend Glen of Rare Candy and Back Wall pods joins us once again to further stuff the digital void with some more content: Balenciaga, pedos, Kanye. You know the drill. Soundtrack: Hunting Lodge "Shadow out of TIme" Seigneur Voland "Ma Necropole" Kevin Coyne "Eastbourne Ladies" Tav Falco Panther Burns "Bourgeois Blues" Bone Crusher "Never Scared" LINKS: Glen Twitter: @GlenRockney Rare Candy: @RareCandyPod1 Rare Candy Podcast

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PREVIEW The Return of St. John Part 2 (W/ Crypto Psi,...

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2022/11/14

Holy shit, bra. The Chi Peps are back, as we've stated in a previous episode, but they're REALLY FUCKING BACK. Only a matter of months after the release of Unlimited Love, the group's first album since wunderwind guitar genius John Frusciante joined the band, and they've got another one! Here ye here ye, we're talking about the Return of the Dream Canteen, the second Chi Peps record of 2022. The Peps have been around since the early '80s. That means they are now as old as the Stones were when Mick

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01:49:45

Mostly Gut and Nut (W/ Kevin Tobin)

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2022/10/24

Friend, artist, and the lone homosexual attendee of Adam's bachelor party Kevin Tobin joins SOS by SP. We discuss his current solo show at Lubov Gallery, his unique marital situation, art world lore, and the absolute worst in contemporary painting. SOUNDTRACK: Die Kombination "Leibenbluster" Normil Hawaiians "Martin" Ectomorph "In Dreams" Eric's Trip "Eyes Shut" OUTRO Kevin Tobin and Jesse Siminski "Abigil IsIsn't Real" LINKS: Kevin Tobin at Lubov Kevin Tobin interview at Safety

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(PREVIEW) Damaged Blonde Ambition (W/ Jack Mason and...

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2022/10/05

Enlisting the incendiary voices of old friends Filthy Armenian, of Filthy Armenian's Adventures and the Back Wall, and Jack Mason, of the Perfume Nationalist, the conversation turns towards the formerly retired pop cultural trope that is the damaged blonde, once again alive and well! Two of the most discussed cultural artifacts right now revive the damaged blonde to Promethean proportions! First, we have Ryan Murphy's new Netflix series, Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story, in which Evan Peters the

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(PREVIEW) Hellenic Glory (W/ Zach Brown)

System of Systems ·

2022/09/23

Adam has returned from his travels abroad. To inaugurate the return of System of Systems by Safety Propaganda, artist Zach Brown joins the show to discuss his work, his time at RISD, pussy, travel, Melrose Place, Vince Gilligan, ancient Greece and more. FULL EPISODE HERE SOUNDTRACK: Beat Happening "You Turn me On" Bruno Cossano "Violent Desire" Nation of Ulysses "Spectra Sonic Sound" Boyd Rice "Silence is Golden" Mgla "Groza II" Mott the Hoople "Thunderbuck Ram" LINKS: Zach Brown's

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01:21:27

Immersed in Death (W/ Worth)

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2022/08/27

Adam speaks with American harsh noise master Worth, aka William Van Gorder, who has a new record on White Centipede Noise called Sacred Violence Noise. Will recorded the album while on residency in Thailand, and throughout the conversation relays the experiences he had there and in his Southeast Asia journey more broadly. What is it like to make noise for an audience that has no fucking clue what is happening? MAGIC! Duh. Talking about Thailand and Southeast Asia leads these two artists to

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01:32:38

A Chance Meeting: NWW List (w/ Easy Listening)

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2022/08/22

In 1978, UK industrial and experimental music pioneers Nurse With Wound, then a collaborative effort between multiple musicians before Steven Stapleton would turn the project into his braintrust some years later, released its debut album Chance Meeting on a Dissecting Table of a Sewing Machine and an Umbrella. That record, the title of which references an excerpt of Comte de Lautréamont's Les Chants de Maldoror, is one of the primary influences on all that which would later be known as industrial,

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(PREVIEW) Satanic Art Phag Propaganda (W/ Psyop...

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2022/08/03

A long anticipated episode, Adam and crew delve into the history and culture of black metal, enlisting the help of metalhead Psyop Resistor. The crew explains how they came to find intrigue in the genre, and then dive into some of their favorite and most evil albums of the canon. FULL EPISODE SOUNDTRACK: (Psyop's pick) Vothana "Vi Muon Tra Thuo" (Adam's pick)Torgeist "Devoted to Satan" (Psyop's pick)Hate Forest "Elder Race" Boyd Rice "An Eye for an Eye" (Adam's pick) Abruptum "Feci Factum Sanguine

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