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System of Systems

Adam Lehrer, Matthew Denicola

All culture is propaganda. Everything you hold dear is connected to that which subjugates you. Deconstruct art, culture, and politics, and attempt to understand the pervasive conformism that has saturated it all. Hosted by Adam Lehrer and Matthew DeNicola patreon.com/systemofsystems safetypropaganda.substack.com x.com/SystemofSystem3 x.com/safetypropagan1 x.com/mattiopattio

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01:43:28

Dominican Clientele (w/ Vincent Nappi and Kylie White)

System of Systems ·

2025/11/12

Artists Vincent Nappi and Kylie White join System of Systems for a definitively vintage Safety Propaganda conversation: The State of the Art World.PS:Zohran won while we were talkingSUBSCRIBE TO OUR PATREONSoundtrack:The Sensational Alex Harvey "Hammer Song"Depressive Silence "Forest of Eternity"Medicine Head "When Night Falls"Paradox Obscur "Cold November"

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01:41:03

Adam's Third 36th Birthday (w/ FRIENDS)

System of Systems ·

2025/11/07

Adam celebrates his 36th birthday for the third time, with a rotating cast of friends. SOUNDTRACK:Crime Mob "Ain't No Joke" Circle of Ouroboros "Malaainnen..." Thee Headcoats "All my Feelings Denied" Guru Guru "Der-LSD Marsch" The Dream Syndicate "Boston"

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01:21:12

Violence

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2025/10/02

Charlie Kirk. Left-wing violence. New Ye documentary.SUBSCRIBE TO OUR PATREONOST:Blue Cheer "Out of Focus"Von "Veadtuck"Regis "Get on your Knees" https://music.apple.com/us/album/get-on-your-knees/1508170442?i=1508170443Five Times of Dust "Computer Bank" https://music.apple.com/us/album/computer-bank/824734359?i=824734465Eleventh Dream Day "Dream Song" https://music.apple.com/us/album/driving-song/6655175?i=6655155

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01:21:40

Joaquin Mumbles

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2025/08/13

Ari Aster's 'Eddington' is awful SUBSCRIBE TO OUR PATREONhttps://www.patreon.com/posts/joaquin-mumbles-136432946?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_linkOST:Opener: Artificial Intelligence 'Foul Play' https://music.apple.com/us/album/artificial-intelligence/80761425?i=80761269Blutkult 'Sinister Runes' (attached)My Dad is Dead 'Boiling

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00:37:26

PREVIEW It Was Not Conceptual (w/ Matt Forney)

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2025/07/21

We're joined by author and Terror House Press editor-in-chief Matt Forney for a free-wheeling conversation about upstate New York, immigration, literature and video games FULL EPISODE: https://www.patreon.com/posts/it-was-not-w-134641634?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_linkOSTMark Broom "Lemon" https://music.apple.com/us/album/lemon/1347654714?i=1347654721Slutet "Match Questions" Overhang Party "La

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01:24:02

Asgardsrei (W/ Vlad Davidzon)

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2025/07/16

Adam's friend and Tablet Mag colleague, the European politics writer and Ukraine expert Vlad Davidzon, joins the show to discuss the state of the war between Russia and Ukraine. Vlad is a politics and war writer but also something of a bon vivant. He keeps notebooks of drawings and collages that are quite good.Vlad phoned in from the Unsafe House, the art collective (of sorts) of none other than painter and former Kirac member Tarik Sadouma. Tarik makes a brief appearance.SUBSCRIBE TO OUR

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01:37:47

We're Back (w/ Kieran Saint Leonard)

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2025/07/02

Apologies about our slow pace, work and life priorities have distanced us from our cause, which we are now here to reclaim once more. Beginning with this conversation with UK writer and musician Kieran Saint Leonard centered around Kieran's new novel Muse, a semi-autobiographical glimpse into the dangers of alluring women and Los Angeles occultism. LINKS:Buy Kieran's book at Hyperidean Press ⁠https://www.hyperideanpress.com/books⁠

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00:40:29

PREVIEW: Jack Off of All Trades (W/ Noah Stalgia)

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2025/06/04

New York artist Noah Stalgia discusses embracing art and leaving furniture design behind FULL EPISODE at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/jack-off-of-all-130732691?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link LINKS: Noah website https://www.noahstalgia.com/artworks

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01:49:12

Nuked Overton

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2025/05/26

The boys discuss Ye nuking the overton window and how genuine or disingenuous leftists' complaints about the Trump admin are SOUNDTRACKPlagal Grind "Receivership live" Air Conditioning "Unravel your Navel" Offenders "Face Down in the Dirt" Victim Kennel "In Case of Aggression"SUBSCRIBE to our podcast's Patreon

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01:40:33

FriendFiction (w/Omar King)

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2025/04/28

Writer Omar King, as well as publisher Evan Papadakis, join the show to discuss his new short story collection An Odyssey of Dingbats, published on friends and former guests Dan Baltic's and Matt Pegas' new imprint New Ritual Press, to talk about his book, porn, Los Angeles, egirl writing, "friendfiction", Hubert Selby, Jr, autism and moreSOUNDTRACKThe Hospitals "Hairdryer Peace"Blue Eyed Devils "Fearless" Plamen "Servants of Nothing" The Brothers

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00:43:07

PREVIEW Trash American Style (w/ Malcolm Tent)

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2025/04/07

Malcom Tent is an under appreciated legend of underground rock n' roll. From entering into the punk fold in South Florida in the 1980s with his hardcore band Broken Talent, to forming the sub-underground noise rock collective Bunny Brains, to playing in one of the most important lineups of American black metal group Profanatica, to collaborating with none other than GG ALLIN, to owning the iconic record shop Trash American Style, to acting as the proprietor of the label TPOS, Tent's

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01:24:40

Brutally Bad

System of Systems ·

2025/03/31

Adam and Matt on Brady Corbet's 'The Brutalist', one of the worst films ever made. Further commentary on Ye's Youtube drop, 'Bully'.Subscribe to Our PatreonSubcribe to Safety Propaganda SubstackOST: Faith No More "Ashes to Ashes"Absurd "Nordmannerlied"Glorious Din "Sellotape"Scott Walker "Tilt"Ye "WW3"

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00:45:19

PREVIEW The Codependent Benefactor (w/ Philip Van Den...

System of Systems ·

2025/03/15

A very special episode here, featuring none other than Dutch artist and director of the infamous KIRAC film series Stefan Ruitenbeek and his benefactor, the Dutch art collector Philip Van Den Hurk. We attempt to understand just why Philip would allow himself to become a character in the KIRAC universe, which Philip explains brings him a kind of limit experience. Stefan explains the erotic dynamics in their relationship. Episode ends with Philip trying to strawman Adam with the abortion issue

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00:39:54

PREVIEW DOGEing Bullets (W/ Shay Semple)

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2025/02/25

Artist and MAGA OG Shay Semple joins once more to discuss the radical first month of the Trump presidencyOSTKraftwerk "Computer Love"ESG "Shinin and Grindin" M8 "Sword Shards" Kim Fowley "Bubblegum" Peste Noire "La dernier putsch"The Bomber Jackets "Legends Never Die"

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01:34:24

Melrose Place (w/ Zach Brown)

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2025/02/08

Artist Zach Brown joins the show to discuss one of the stranger and more era specific art works of the 1990s, Darren Starr's adult nighttime soap series Melrose PlaceOSTDead Girl's Party "I'm a Tick Tock Bomb"Hunger! "Workshop"Diapsiquir "Aprés"

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00:42:33

Rockin Back Inside My Heart (w/ Jack Mason)

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2025/01/23

The life, the legacy, and the art of David Lynch, with Jack Mason of The Perfume Nationalist SOUNDTRACK Julee Cruise "Rockin' Back Inside my Heart"Brother JT "This is the Life"Felt "Primitive Painters" Roy Orbison "In Dreams" LINKSTPN The Films of David Lynch Part One and Part Two

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00:40:22

PREVIEW Opportunism and Moralism (w/ Kat Chamberlin)

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2025/01/13

Artist Kat Chamberlin discusses her political discontent and Dean Kissick's recent panel with Anna and DashaSUBSCRIBE FOR FULL EPISODE Soundtrack:Mortuary Drape "Larve"Datblygu "Hollol, Hollol, Hollol"Das Kabinette "Something's On Your Mind"Mirrors "Shirley"LINKS:Kat Chamberlin website

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01:18:03

Goodbye 2024

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2024/12/23

Memorable art, music, film and memes of 2024OSTRed Lorry Yellow Lorry "Pushing On"Horsepower Electronics "Gorgon Sound" Thergothon "Elemental" NOFX "Vanilla Sex"

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01:34:49

Magic Man (w/ Christopher Zeischegg)

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2024/12/04

Author and filmmaker Christopher Zeischegg discusses his semi autofictional 2020 novel The Magician, a new film based on that text, and a little bit about his previous life in pornography OST:Cabaret Voltaire "A Touch of Evil"The Obsessed "Tombstone Highway" Metal Urbain "Ultra Violence" The Diplomats "Who I Am" Miss Kittin and the Hacker "Homme a la Mode" LINKSChristopher Zeischegg websiteFollow Chris on Twitter: @chriszeischegg

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00:40:43

PREVIEW Omertà (w/ Med Gold)

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2024/11/26

Sensitive young man and friend of the show Med Gold joins to discuss too good and decent men wildly condemned and deliberately misunderstood by the mediaSUBSCRIBE FOR FULL EPISODELINKS:Read Med's essay on The Sopranos

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