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Unrelating with Kel & Michelle

Unrelating is an all new podcast that explores relationships, why we do what we do, and what causes people to "un-relate". Join Kelly & Michelle as they talk to real people about the relationship challenges they face and provide an expert to help them sort it all out.Unrelating is hosted by show producer Kelly Beck and relationship expert Michelle Schafer. Michelle is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist who has been providing individual and couple’s therapy for two decades.Michelle has her

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Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 45 Deep Dive:...

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2026/04/03

In this Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 45 Deep Dive, Michelle talks about what happens when you start to notice the world through the eyes of someone with different challenges and how we don't need to be afraid of acknowledging the benefits we have. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, ...

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69:00

Could You Be Neuro-Sensitive?

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2026/04/01

Could you be neuro-sensitive? Kel and Michelle sit down with counselor and educational strategist Judy Lipson to find out! We explore some of the traits and characteristics, techniques and tips for dealing with family and friends with neuro-sensitivities, and why having a neuro-sensitivity could actually be a superpower. Judy Lipson can be found at https://www.spiralwisdom.com/. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com...

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43:25

Accountability and Negativity Bias

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2026/03/18

Kel and Michelle discuss why accountability matters and how negativity bias affects our mental health. We explore how not taking accountability impacts our relationships and the psychological reasons we don’t step up. We also discuss negativity bias, the effects it has on our life, and learn some practical ways that we can minimize exposure and rewire our brain out of a negative loop. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodca...

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5:40

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 43 Deep Dive:...

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2026/03/06

In this Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 43 deep dive, Michelle highlights two themes from Justine's show, exploring regret and being open to improvements. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ Check us out on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@unrelatingpodcast And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Yout...

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48:28

Leaving A Career Behind

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2026/03/04

Kel and Michelle sit down with Justine, a young professional who has pivoted between multiple diverse careers, to discuss lessons she’s learned, navigating workplace discontentment and dissatisfaction, how she is aligning her work with her values and goals, and how failure can be an important learning experience to help discover your true calling. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; ...

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3:54

Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 41 Deep Dive:...

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle ·

2026/02/20

Top recap Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 41 with Terry, Michelle delves deeper into having us try to understand our responses to adversity so we can enhance our resilience. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Youtube or wherever you get your podcasts! https://www.unr...

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56:55

The Power Of Resilience

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2026/02/18

Kel and Michelle sit down with cancer survivor and author Terry Healey for an inspiring conversation about adversity, recovery, and resilience. After a life-threatening cancer left him with a permanent facial difference, Terry talks about how he rebuilt his confidence, discovered the power of gratitude and positivity, and found greater purpose and joy in his life. Terry Healey is the author of At Face Value and The Resilience Mindset. https://terryhealey.com/ To ask us a question, sugge...

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Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 41 Deep Dive:...

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle ·

2026/02/06

To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 41, in this deep dive Michelle talks about why it can be hard to take action or accept responsibility in our lives and when we're up against societal challenges. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Youtube or wherever you get yo...

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59:31

Parents Vs. The Manosphere

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2026/02/04

Kel and Michelle sit down for a candid and eye-opening conversation with educator and online content creator Abby Eckel about the challenges of raising boys in today’s negative social media landscape, how the manosphere molds young minds, and the proactive roles that parents can play in raising their kids today. Abby Eckel is available at Abbyeckel.com or @abbyeckel. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us ...

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4:46

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 40 Deep Dive:...

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2026/01/23

After the Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 40, Michelle does a Deep Dive on a type of therapy mentioned on the show with Sharon that works on the mind-body connection, and how we are physically affected by our feelings and relationships. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHea...

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54:13

When To Cut Off Your Family

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2026/01/21

Kel and Michelle sit down with psychotherapist and writer Sharon Kwon to discuss why she decided to cut ties with her parents, navigating difficult parental expectations, how to set clear relationship boundaries, and the dangers of "therapy speak" in social media. Sharon Kwon is the founder of Bodhi Aware Therapy and is available for online therapy at bodhiawaretherapy.com. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Fol...

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Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 39 Deep Dive:...

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2026/01/09

After Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 39, Michelle takes a closer look at a core theme from the show with Dr. Whetstone: the need to maintain connection with your partner. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Youtube or wherever you get your podcasts! https://www.unrel...

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62:42

Ending Your Marriage the Right Way

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2026/01/07

Kel and Michelle sit down with Dr. Becky Whetstone to discuss her early marriage struggles and journey to becoming a therapist, tools and traits for creating a happy marriage, and how struggling couples can navigate the most difficult decision of their lives. Dr. Becky is the author of “I Think I Want Out. What To Do When One Of You Wants To End Your Marriage”. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on In...

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65:15

RE-RELEASE People Pleasing Pitfalls

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle ·

2025/12/31

Kel and Michelle sit down with holistic health coach Laura Folkes to discuss what "people pleasing" looks like, where it comes from, and the ways that it affects our relationships with our friends, family, and food. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Youtube or wherever you get ...

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43:32

Holiday Dynamics

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2025/12/17

Kel and Michelle tackle common challenges and themes to help you get through the holidays. The psychology behind decorating early for the holidays, why we revert to our childhood selves around our parents, and the advantages and myths behind showing gratitude. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on A...

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Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 37 Deep Dive:...

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2025/12/05

After the Unrelating with Kel & Michelle's episode 37 with Scott, Michelle takes a deep dive into gaining insight and personal growth after a breakup to set yourself up better for your next relationship. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Youtube or wherever you get your pod...

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54:01

Trying To Move On After A Breakup

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2025/12/03

Kel and Michelle sit down with Scott to help him unpack his recent breakup from a long term relationship, discuss what went wrong, and how to pick up the pieces and move forward with his life. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Youtube or wherever you get your podcasts! https:/...

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Unrelating With Kel & Michelle Episode 36 Deep Dive:...

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle ·

2025/11/21

To recap Unrelating with Kel & Michelle Episode 35, Michelle was sparked by Melissa and Arran's episode to explore the difficulties some people have with accepting love from their partners. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Youtube or wherever you get your podca...

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74:19

Shame And Marriage

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2025/11/19

Kel and Michelle sit down with married couple Arran and Melissa for an entertaining and thought-provoking conversation about dating, emotional baggage, communication, and how shame can affect your relationships. Melissa Petro is the author of Shame On You: How To Be A Woman In The Age of Mortification. To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And d...

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27:26

Ask Us Anything

Unrelating with Kel & Michelle ·

2025/11/05

Kel and Michelle answer your questions! What's our take on the "If He Wanted, He Would" social media fad and should someone be worried about their spouses "secret single behavior". To ask us a question, suggest a topic or be our next on-air guest, email us at theunrelatingpodcast@gmail.com. Follow us on Instagram; https://www.instagram.com/unrelatingpodcast/ And download and listen to Unrelating on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, Youtube or wherever you get your podcasts! https://unrelatingw...

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