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The Inclusive AF Podcast

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Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast, your go-to destination for all things DEI, HR, and workplace inclusivity. Hosted by two BFFs with a combined decades of experience in the people space, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton, this podcast is where candid conversations meet insightful, actionable strategies. Together, they dive deep into the complex (and often messy) world of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, exploring how to build workplaces that are not just diverse, but truly inclusive. Katee is a

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51:42

Radical Generosity and Rethinking Competition:...

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2025/10/27

Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! In this episode, we’re thrilled to welcome inclusion strategist and author Ruchika T. Malhotra, who dives deep into her groundbreaking books, including "Inclusion on Purpose" and her latest work, "Uncompete."Ruchika shares powerful insights into why competition isn’t always the answer—challenging the status quo and inspiring us to rethink how we work, lead, and collaborate. From

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36:01

Navigating Chaos by Design: HR’s Role in Social...

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2025/10/16

🔥 NEW EPISODE ALERT! 🔥Welcome to another unapologetically real episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with your hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! This time, they’re joined by Desiree Goldey and Ashley King, powerhouse co-hosts of the Talentless podcast, for a candid, thought-provoking discussion about the state of work, HR, and social justice. Get ready as they break down: - Why HR and Talent Acquisition are the true economic gatekeepers and drivers of generational wealth - The all-too-real

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49:44

Navigating AI Adoption in HR: From Shiny Tools to...

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2025/10/02

Ready to transform your HR strategy for the future of work? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, host Katee Van Horn sits down with Sophia Whelan and Sarah Smart, co-founders of Horizon Human, for an honest, insightful discussion about the evolving landscape of HR and Talent Acquisition in the age of AI.Sophia and Sarah bring their expertise from top global organizations to break down how HR can drive trust, equity, and innovation—without falling for every "shiny" tech object. Discover why

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40:29

HR Tech 2025: The Future of Retention Through...

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2025/09/24

🎸 How can we make EVERYONE feel seen at work—while actually driving retention and business results? On this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, Katee Van Horn sits down with the dynamic Curtis Forbes (he/him)—former jazz musician, serial entrepreneur, and founder of Mustard Hub—to jam about transforming workplace culture, recognition, and DEI through tech.Curtis shares his unique journey from the jazz stage to launching an AI-powered employee engagement platform and dives into: - What it means

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52:16

Navigating Uncertainty: Building Inclusive Cultures...

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2025/08/28

Ready for a fresh, honest take on workplace inclusion and leadership? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn are joined by Dr. Carol Parker Walsh, an expert in organizational culture and psychological safety. They dive deep into what’s really going on in today’s workplaces: layoffs in DEI, the pressures of AI, burned-out leaders, and the ever-changing expectations for managers.Whether you’re unsure about your next career move, trying to foster

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44:05

Would You Rather: DEI Hot Takes and Real Talk With...

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2025/08/21

Ready for a refreshingly REAL conversation about diversity, equity, and inclusion? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn turn up the fun with a rapid-fire “Would You Rather: DEI Edition” game!They tackle everything from DEI budgets vs. CEO support, to potlucks vs. unlimited PTO, dealing with microaggressions, navigating DEI strategy in the workplace, and even imagining Beyoncé or Lizzo at your next ERG Summit. If you need laughs, honesty, and

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49:49

Why Changing DEI Terms Won’t Change the Mission with...

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2025/08/14

Welcome to another episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast with your hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! In this insightful and candid conversation, we welcome back Eric M. Bailey—author of "The Cure for Stupidity"—to dig deep into the ever-evolving world of diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging (DEIB) at work.Things are shifting fast: DEI language is being weaponized, organizations are changing their approach (or just changing the name), and real change often feels stuck. Eric shares what

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35:53

Navigating the VA’s DEI Rollback and The Real Cost to...

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2025/08/06

Welcome to another powerful episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! 🎙️In this episode, Jackye and Katee dive deep into the impact of the recent rollback of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives within the Department of Veterans Affairs. Discover how these changes are affecting marginalized veterans and active duty personnel, the removal of critical healthcare services (like gender-affirming care), and the troubling implications on mental health and

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43:11

What to Do When Work Feels Hopeless: Realities Facing...

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2025/07/24

Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast! In our most recent episode, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn get real about what's happening in workplaces and in the world right now. From HR ethics scandals and employee morale drops to the impact of DEIB cuts and the increasing role of AI at work, we dive deep into the stories making headlines—and the ones that should be.We talk about: - Why recent public scandals (think high-profile affairs at work!) shake company culture - How the rollback of DEIB

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52:28

From Burnout to Boundaries: Protecting Your Space in...

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2025/07/17

Ready for some real talk on navigating job pivots, protecting your mental health, and finding your purpose—especially when it feels like the world is upside down? Join hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton for another empowering episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🎙️This week, returning guest Lindiwe Davis (aka The Couch Coach) is back to dish on: - How to stay the course in your career—even when the path twists and turns - Setting boundaries to protect your energy (and why that’s 100% OK!) -

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36:46

HR’s Wake Up Call: Auditing AI Tools After the...

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2025/07/11

🎙️ Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this must-listen episode, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn dive into one of the hottest and most pressing topics in HR: AI Bias in Recruiting—especially focusing on the landmark Mobley vs. Workday lawsuit. With over 1.1 BILLION applications potentially impacted, what does this mean for your organization and your hiring practices?We break down: - The real risks of bias in AI-powered ATS systems like Workday🧐 - What the Workday lawsuit means for

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52:13

Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Rebecca Eldredge -...

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2025/06/16

Ready to explore what real inclusion and well-being look like—especially for those doing the heavy lifting on the frontlines of change?On this episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton are joined by Dr. Rebecca Eldridge, a licensed psychologist with 20+ years of expertise in multicultural issues and organizational well-being. Together, they dig into the often-overlooked toll of fighting for equity (especially for Black and Brown women), intergenerational trauma,

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40:32

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 153

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2025/06/03

🔥 Welcome to Episode 153 of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🔥This week, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton dive deep into the truths about undocumented workers in the U.S.—and the myths, misinformation, and politicized narratives surrounding them. Did you know undocumented immigrants contribute nearly $97 BILLION in taxes and have $299 BILLION in spending power? We break down the real numbers, the industries that rely on immigrant labor, and the ripple effect on our economy if these workers are

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Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 152

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2025/05/21

🎙️ Welcome to Episode 152 of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🎙️In this thought-provoking episode, hosts Jackye Clayton (VP of Talent Acquisition and DEIB) and Katee Van Horn dive deep into the current political climate and its direct impact on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives—particularly focusing on law firms' responses to new administrative actions and EEOC investigations. They break down: - What recent government actions mean for DEI practitioners and organizations across

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Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 151

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2025/05/10

Step into one of the most jaw-dropping conversations of the year! In Episode 151 of The Inclusive AF Podcast, Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn break down the shocking real-life consequences of the 2025 use of the Alien Enemies Act—a law from 1798 that’s suddenly front-page news. What does it mean when centuries-old laws are used against modern-day migrants? Why are Venezuelan asylum seekers being sent to a notorious prison in El Salvador without due process? And how is all of this igniting a new

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30:13

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 150

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2025/05/01

Radical Self-Care for Black Women: Why Rest is a Necessity, Not a Luxury | Inclusive AF Podcast Ep. 150In episode 150 of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton dive into a raw and powerful discussion that’s long overdue: Black women’s exhaustion and why radical self-care isn’t just a trendy buzzword—it’s an act of resistance and survival. Drawing insights from must-read articles and thinkers like The Root, Hood Communist, The Nap Ministry, Ebony, and more, Katee and

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42:57

Getting Inclusive AF with Nico Santos - Episode 149

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2025/04/22

🌈 Welcome to Episode #149 of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🌈This week, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn sit down with Nico Santos (he/him), a passionate DEI strategist, communicator, and advocate for organ donation and health equity. Nico shares his inspiring journey from broadcast journalism to leading inclusive change at the Donor Network of Arizona. Together, they dig deep into why representation matters in healthcare, the unique challenges facing communities of color in organ donation,

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60:45

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 148

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2025/04/08

🌈 Welcome to Episode 148 of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🌈Join hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn as they tackle an urgent and serious topic that affects us all: the relentless political and policy actions targeting our transgender community. With their unapologetically inclusive, passionate, and sometimes humorous style, Jackye and Katee dive deep into the effects of these harmful policies on trans folks today, how misinformation impacts the narrative, and what we can do to fight back. 🔍

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27:25

Getting Inclusive AF with Katee & Jackye - Episode 147

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2025/03/27

In this engaging episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton delve into the significant impact of recent executive orders on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) across various sectors. Join them as they discuss the complexities and challenges surrounding these changes, including the effects on ERGs, the role of federal contracts, and the broader implications for organizations and employees alike. Tune in to hear their expert insights on how to navigate these

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47:43

Getting Inclusive AF with Scott Curran

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2025/03/13

🌟 Dive into Episode 146 of The Inclusive AF Podcast 🌟Join us as we sit down with Scott Curran, a corporate attorney and CEO of Beyond Advisors, who is reshaping the landscape of social impact, law, and DEI. Explore how Scott's unique career journey across corporate law, nonprofit leadership, and consulting equips organizations to make a more significant impact. In this insightful conversation, we unpack: ✔️ The importance of focusing on your core and how it can guide you through challenging

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