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Herm & Schrader

SiriusXM, Dirty Mo Media

Epically historic. Occasionally irreverent. Always hilarious. Never – and we mean never – giving a single solitary damn about anything but racing, drinking beer and telling stories, some even true. What else would you expect from a show with Kenny Wallace and Ken Schrader, the charismatic, fan-favorite, midwestern buddies who are still gettin’ it done on racetracks near you. On this show, Wallace and Schrader chime in on current events, rehash old stories from their NASCAR careers and engage in

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00:58:44

Mark Martin's Dad Took a Crowbar to His Dashboard,...

Herm & Schrader ·

2026/10/01

Mark Martin stops by Kenny Conversation to talk about his new book, Never Lift, and the stories in it are wilder than you'd expect.We'll start with the one Kenny couldn't wait to hear. Mark's dad, Julian, loses his cool after a big race in Springfield, Missouri, when a brand-new ignition quits with the win on the line. Nobody says a word all the way to Denny's. Then comes the crowbar. Then comes the pole in the parking lot. Then comes the coil’s ultimate demise. Trust us, you'll want to hear the

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01:13:10

The Current Points System is The Best

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2026/09/30

Kenny Wallace went to Disney, came home to a Martinsville mess, and has been fired up ever since.This week, Herm and Schrader start with what happened after the checkered flag at Martinsville and the fights that went down. Then it's on to Kansas, where Kyle Larson ran away with it and the guys argue about the points picture with six races left. They also ask whether the stage points might be the best system NASCAR has ever had. Then comes the question that split the room: was it a good race, and

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00:49:21

Maddi Gordon Is Chasing a 12,000 HP Beast at 340 MPH...

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2026/09/24

She's 22, she drives a 12,000-horsepower Top Fuel dragster for Ron Capps, and she still remembers exactly what it felt like the day her dad found out — before she did. Kenny sits down with NHRA rising star Maddi Gordon to talk about the wildest way anyone's ever gotten offered a ride (spoiler: she was on a motorcycle when she found out), the double-family-win day that changed everything, and fangirling over Sophie Cunningham backstage at NASCAR.But there's way more to Maddi than the win light. She

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01:09:35

Ken Schrader says Hocevar’s “Goodwill Bank” is empty

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2026/09/23

Rick Mast sits in for Herm this week, and he and Ken Schrader waste no time getting into it. The Blaney-Hocevar fight at Bristol gets the full breakdown — who really screwed up, why Rick says the real mistake happened before a punch was ever thrown, and what it means that fans can't get enough of Hocevar while the garage can't stand him. They’re not pulling any punches when it comes to their thoughts on what needs to happen with the rising star and the drivers who have to put up with him.From there

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00:53:11

"Chicken Salad Out of Chicken S*": Nick Hoffman Gets...

Herm & Schrader ·

2026/09/17

Kenny Wallace sits down with Nick Hoffman fresh off the biggest win of his career — the 56th running of the World 100, the most-watched Dirt Late Model race ever broadcast. They get into what it felt like watching his text messages blow up from Australia to a hotel lobby full of Cup drivers, why Kenny publicly called the win five days early, life at the shop with his crew being neighbors with Ricky Stenhouse Jr., the truth about NASCAR money creeping into dirt racing, and his growing mentorship of

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01:06:39

Did Denny Hamlin's Words Change Hocevar's Driving?

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2026/09/16

Eighteen cautions, four-wide into turn one on a flat mile, brakes going away everywhere you looked – and at the end of it Kyle Larson breaks a 51-race drought on four fresh tires while Joey Logano sits there with two. The guys agree last weekend was one of the best races they've seen at the track -- and they'd tell you if it wasn't.NASCAR's TV viewership is up almost every week this year, and Herm, Schrader get into why – shocker – they’re crediting a lot to Carson Hocevar stirring things up and a

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01:29:14

Why Dale Earnhardt Sr. Called Michael Waltrip a...

Herm & Schrader ·

2026/09/10

Michael Waltrip sits down with Kenny Wallace for one of the most honest conversations of his career. They go all the way back to Owensboro, Kentucky, where a broke kid with a borrowed go-kart ended up crashing on Kyle Petty's basement floor, then Richard Petty's guest room, just trying to find a way into NASCAR. From there it's one wild story after another: the horrifying 1990 Bristol wreck that left him standing next to a mangled car with his feet on the ground, the Dale Earnhardt friendship that

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01:07:46

Schrader's Fed Up with Hocevar

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2026/09/09

This week on Herm & Schrader, we breakdown Christopher Bell's big win at Darlington to kick off the Chase for the Championship. Carson Hocevar's at it again, this week with Brad Keselowski. What's different this time and why has Schrader finally had enough? And, Josh Berry has found his new home with Legacy Motor Club. We went straight to the source with the Wood Brothers to find out what went wrong and why everything seems to be going so good right now. Questions, questions, they'll all be

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00:49:11

He Lost His Arm, His Legs, and Almost His Life — Then...

Herm & Schrader ·

2026/09/03

Darrell Gwynn was one of the fastest men in drag racing — until one crash changed everything. He lost his arm. He lost the use of his legs. But somehow, he didn't lose himself.This week, Kenny Wallace sits down with the NHRA legend for a conversation that goes way beyond racing. Gwynn opens up about the wreck that ended his career, the outpouring of support from the NASCAR and racing world that got him through it, and how he turned tragedy into a mission — becoming a car owner and a lifeline for

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01:13:24

Wins over Consistency, Did Mark Martin Get it Right?

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2026/09/02

This week on Herm & Schrader, Ryan Preece's walk-off Daytona win to punch his ticket into the Chase, and trying to decipher on what the Wood Brothers meant about Josh Berry with a message that could have been a ‘backhanded compliment.’ They then turn to how Mark Martin’s ‘campaign’ to reward consistency over wins knocked SVG out of the Chase.The guys are also trying to figure out why Jimmie Johnson pickedthismoment to finally say something about Carson Hocevar with a post on X both

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01:00:14

Pit Reporter, Host, Radio Voice — Danielle Trotta Has...

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2026/08/27

Two old FOX Sports colleagues, one wide-ranging conversation about NASCAR, media, and everything in between. Kenny Wallace sits down with Danielle Trotta — pit reporter, host, radio voice, and one of the most versatile names in NASCAR media — to swap stories from their days working together, and dig into how she built a career that touches every corner of the broadcast. Pre-race, post-race, in the pits, on the radio — Trotta's done it all and talks about how she broke into the business and what it

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00:58:54

Ford’s Closing the Gap on Toyota, but will it last?

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2026/08/26

Ryan Blaney just put another Ford in Victory Lane at New Hampshire and it's starting to feel like a pattern. Herm and Schrader break down whether the Blue Ovals are actually closing the gap on Toyota, or if it’s all track-dependent? Speaking of Fast Fords, Josh Berry is on fire as of late and driving like he has something to prove -- so why does he not have a ride for 2027? And to wrap it up: IndyCar just ran through the streets of Washington DC, and now everyone's asking the obvious question —

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00:47:13

Kaitlyn Vincie: Grassroots Racing To Network TV

Herm & Schrader ·

2026/08/20

Two former TV colleagues get together to talk all things NASCAR. Originally airing on 10/1/24, the episode features Kaitlyn Vincie sharing her journey from local track host to FOX TV pit reporter. The story of how she got her job is amazing—and she’s into a lot more than just racing. From writing a novel to hosting short-term vacation rentals in the mountains, Vincie is a jack-of-all-trades.Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇shop.dirtymomedia.com

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01:15:21

Was Knoxville Delayed So Kyle Larson Could Make It?

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2026/08/19

This week on Herm & Schrader, our old friend Rick Mast is back to fill in for Schrader. The guys take a look at Joey Logano's win at Richmond and how he's positioning himself for a run at a fourth Cup title. Meanwhile, last year's champion Kyle Larson jetted off to Knoxville after Richmond and captured Sprint Car racing's ultimate prize. But was the race unfairly delayed so he could get there? And, Cleetus McFarland made his Late Model debut at Berlin in front of a standing-room-only crowd for

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00:53:57

Jonathan Davenport: Dirt Racing’s Superman

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2026/08/13

He’s one of the all-time great dirt racers. Some people call him “JD” or “Superman.” But his real name is Jonathan Davenport. Originally airing 06/21/23 Kenny & Jonathan discuss the real dirt of dirt racing. Davenport explains how he’s shifted his entire racing strategy to focus on the big money races at Eldora. Why his career also took off thanks to a pair of glasses. And does every dirt racer really wanna go NASCAR? Wallace & JD discuss it all! Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the

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01:05:32

The Two-Tire Gamble That Cost Christopher Bell The...

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2026/08/12

This week on Herm & Schrader, we look back on Ty Gibbs' slick two-tire move to take the Iowa win over Christopher Bell, but will new pavement make for better racing next year? The 2027 Cup schedule keeps slowly trickling out. What tracks are in and which are out when it's all said and done? And, Carson Kvapil goes from winless to winning two in a row...could Kid Kvapil be a dark horse for the O'Reilly Series title? These questions and more will all be answered on this week's Herm & Schrader.Real

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01:03:46

Jamie Little: Rewriting The Rules Of Racing Television

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2026/08/06

Originally airing 2/21/24, this Kenny Conversation with Jamie Little covers every corner of motorsports. Jamie shares her journey from being a young teenager in Las Vegas, whose fascination with motocross led to opportunities across the X Games, NASCAR, and IndyCar. Hear the story about how she managed to land a pit reporter role with ESPN during their launch of NASCAR coverage, and how she approached her boss at FOX about spending some seat time as a play-by-play announcer. Jamie also shares how

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01:02:05

Is NASCAR On A Ventilator? A Current Cup Driver...

Herm & Schrader ·

2026/08/05

Even without any racing in NASCAR's Big 3 series over the weekend, we still have lots to talk about. One of the biggest controversies currently circulating: Carson Hocevar's recent comments stating NASCAR is on a ventilator and asleep at the wheel. Both Herm and Schrader have strong opinions about those statements. The next discussion gets everyone fired up: is the season too long...are the races too long... and would shortening both create more interest? IHRA created a lot of buzz in the offseason

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00:54:31

Six Titles and Erica Enders Still Has Something to Prove

Herm & Schrader ·

2026/07/30

Few drivers have dominated the drag strip like Erica Enders. Originally airing 4/16/24, the 6-time NHRA Pro Stock World Champion joins Kenny Wallace for an awesome conversation about her amazing career. From her groundbreaking success as one of the sport’s greatest female racers to the mindset that keeps her chasing championships year after year. Being a woman in a man’s world isn’t easy. She’s had to deal with criticism and setbacks, but in the end Erica Enders got the last laugh. Real fans wear

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01:08:02

Heim vs. Hocevar - Is The Media To Blame For This...

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2026/07/29

Corey Heim delivers again...this time at Indianapolis, winning one of NASCAR's signature events in just his 15th Cup start. Just how good will he be when he actually goes Cup racing full-time? Nobody could pass Heim at Indy...or anyone for that matter. The fellas debate what can be done to help the Cup cars put on better races at the Brickyard? After Carson Kvapil got his first O'Reilly Series win, Herm gives his take on why it made Dale Jr. so emotional. Plus, Layne Riggs dominates at IRP, are we

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