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Therapists Rising Podcast

Dr. Hayley Kelly

Welcome to the Therapists Rising Podcast, where we share real, raw, and behind-the-scenes stories and lessons from Therapists who are thinking outside the traditional clinical box and choosing to do things differently in their careers. I’m your host, Dr. Hayley Kelly, and I myself have made the journey from a very experienced, but burnt out and unhappy, Clinical Therapist - to a successful entrepreneur who runs a business she loves, is thriving financially, and working and living life on her own

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55:18

From Perinatal Psych to Florist: When Your "Side...

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2026/02/19

Picture a psychologist with 25 years in perinatal mental health — burned out from holding space for loss and trauma for decades.She needed something that was just hers. No clinical notes, no disclosure risk, no empathy fatigue. She chose floristry.And then her perinatal colleagues found out. And asked her to bring it to conferences. Then to teach it online. Now she has a waiting list of clinicians who want in.Today's guest, Carla Anderson, is a clinical psychologist who built two very different

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64:53

Corporations Are Paying Psychologists to Teach Play -...

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2026/02/11

Picture a corporate wellness landscape where companies are tired of boring PowerPoint workshops but also can't justify wine tastings when burnout is a WHS compliance issue.There's a gap there. A big one.And what if you could fill it?Today's guest, Dr. Mitzi Liddle, is doing exactly that. She's teaching corporations about play and pleasure - yes, you read that right - as nervous system regulation tools. Not fluff. Not entertainment. Neuroscience-backed performance enhancement.And

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18:50

Stop Hunting for Ideas: The One Question That...

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2026/02/04

You've got the notebook. The voice memos. The Google Doc titled "possible program ideas" you haven't opened in weeks. You're not short on ideas. You're drowning in reasonable options.And somehow that feels worse than having no ideas at all.Because when you're stuck with multiple good directions and still can't get traction, it starts to feel like a you problem. Like you're overthinking it. Not ready. Not disciplined enough.Here's what you need to

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47:06

Why Everything Just Changed for Therapists: Money,...

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2026/01/28

For 12 months, I've been warning you the traditional therapy model is breaking down. Some of you have been listening. But many have been waiting for clarity. Here's what you need to hear: The last eight weeks changed everything. November 2025: Australia restricted Better Access referrals. December 2025: Fifth consecutive year of US Medicare cuts. January 30, 2026: US telehealth flexibilities expire. While those policy changes hit, something else shifted: 1 in 8 young people now use AI chatbot...

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44:50

The REAL Truth About Passive Income for Therapists...

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2026/01/22

Let's talk about passive income, and NO, this isn't another "make money while you sleep" pitch. This conversation with Kayla Das is the most honest, transparent take on passive income for therapists I've heard in a LONG time. Kayla's a Canadian social worker, business coach, author of The Passive Practice, and someone who's actually DONE this work. She's built multiple passive income streams and she's willing to tell you the TRUTH about what it really takes. Here it is: passive income isn't p...

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36:14

The Hidden Cost of Staying Stuck

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2026/01/14

I've been noticing this pattern with the therapists I work with. Incredibly capable people with clear ideas for what they want to build - programs, offerings, shifts in their practice. They can describe it in detail. But when I ask what's stopping them, the answer is always some version of "I'm stuck." In this episode, I'm not giving you productivity tips or telling you to just start. I'm naming the quiet problem that nobody talks about: the kind of stuck that doesn't look like stuck at all. ...

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38:07

Before You Plan Anything in 2026, Answer This One...

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2026/01/08

Everyone's doing planning episodes right now. Goal-setting frameworks, vision boards, annual reviews - and those resources are great. But here's what I think most people are skipping: the single piece of clarity that actually makes planning work. I just came back from two weeks completely offline (forced digital detox courtesy of terrible cruise internet). And while I was offline, one question kept surfacing. Not "what do I need to do differently" or "what are my goals" - but something deeper...

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35:11

How to Go Into the Holidays Without the Pressure to...

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2025/12/17

If you've ever headed into a break thinking "I'll finally catch up on everything," only to feel guilty the entire time—this episode is for you. Dr. Hayley Kelly breaks down why the pressure to be productive over holidays backfires, and gives you a practical framework to actually rest (or maintain minimal momentum) without the guilt. This is the final Therapists Rising episode before a two-week break, and it couldn't be more timely. For therapists in Australia staring down six weeks of school ...

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68:31

I Gave Up My Medical License to Say This Out Loud...

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2025/12/10

If you've ever felt unsafe speaking up, shrunk your practice to avoid regulatory scrutiny, or wondered if the system designed to protect you is actually harming you—this conversation will validate everything you've been feeling but haven't said out loud. I'm speaking with Dr. Julie Sladden, a medical doctor, writer, and advocate who walked away from clinical practice, handed in her medical license, and became one of Australia's most vocal advocates for practitioner wellbeing and regulatory r...

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46:08

Stop Planning Like a Therapist: How to Create a 2026...

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2025/11/26

If you’ve ever ended the year thinking, “Why didn’t I get to my program?” or “How am I still drowning in clients?”, this episode is basically a loving intervention. Therapists don’t miss their goals because they’re unmotivated — they miss them because the system trains them to prioritise everyone else first. So their dream project becomes the “neglected child” of the business. Loved, wanted… always getting scraps. In this solo episode, I’m breaking down why traditional planning fails therapis...

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84:38

Scaling With Soul - How Dr. Catherine Hart Built a...

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2025/11/19

If you've ever thought "scaling means selling out" or "growing a team means burning out," Dr. Catherine Hart is about to prove you wrong. She's built a 35-person psychology practice across five sites with a salaried employment model that actually retains clinicians—and she did it by breaking every rule.In this episode, I'm talking with Dr. Catherine Hart, clinical psychologist, director of Succoris Psychology Group, and 2024 APS Supervisor of the Year. Catherine

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42:52

The 4 Boundaries That Stop Business Burnout

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2025/11/12

If your business feels like it's draining you instead of filling you up, you're probably recreating the same patterns from therapy practice that burned you out in the first place. The endless availability, saying yes to everyone, undercharging out of guilt, and the resentment that builds when you're trying to be generous but running on empty.In this episode, I'm breaking down the 4 specific business boundaries that changed everything for my business: Energy, Systems &

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31:23

The 7 Lies Keeping Therapists Broke and Burned Out

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2025/11/05

"You just need more self-care." That's what I kept hearing when I was burnt out, seeing 30+ clients a week, barely breaking even. I tried bath bombs, meditation apps, yoga breaks. None of it worked. Because the problem wasn't my self-care routine. It was the business model. In this episode, I'm dismantling the 7 lies that keep therapists overworked, underpaid, and stuck in unsustainable practices. The toxic narratives about burnout, pricing, marketing, and what it takes to build a therapy pra...

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24:44

What Sobriety Taught Me About Doing Business Differently

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2025/10/29

For 12 months, I’ve been sober, and until a recent doctor’s appointment, I’d completely forgotten. No countdown. No recovery story. No before-and-after moment. Just life, without alcohol. When my doctor asked, “None? Not even socially?” and looked at me like I’d just confessed a crime, something clicked. His disbelief wasn’t about alcohol — it was about the quiet pressure we all feel to play along. To do the thing that makes everyone else comfortable, even when it doesn’t feel good to us. Tha...

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46:36

Why 'I Don't Want to Be Salesy' Is Keeping You From...

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2025/10/22

In this episode, I'm tackling one of the biggest fears holding therapists back from building sustainable online practices: the terror of being "too salesy." If you've ever frozen at the end of a webinar, mumbled through your offer, or avoided pitching your program altogether because you're worried about pressuring people who've already been through so much — this episode is for you. Here's the truth: Your fear of being salesy isn't actually about sales. It's about identity, worth, and deeply ...

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63:03

Turning Grief into Purpose with Kimberly Stevens

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2025/10/15

After losing her teenage son Ethan to T-Cell Acute Lymphoblastic Leukaemia, psychologist Kimberly Stevens faced the unthinkable — and chose to transform her grief into something that would help thousands of others. In this conversation, Kimberly shares the story behind Kids Connecting Parents, an app she created to help bereaved parents find local, peer-based connection and support when professional services fall short. ⚠️ Content Warning: This episode contains discussion of child loss, grief...

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36:01

The Story I've Never Told: My Mental Health Crisis

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2025/10/13

For 230 episodes, I've referenced my "kitchen floor moment" without telling you the full story. After interviewing psychologist Kimberly Stevens about transforming her grief into purpose, I realized: if I'm asking therapists to be brave enough to step outside broken systems, I need to be brave enough to tell you why it matters so much to me. This is the story of my suicide attempt, the months after, and the moment on my kitchen floor—with my young son's hand on my shoulder—that changed everyt...

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62:08

Breaking the Unspoken Rules: Prof. Nick Titov on the...

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2025/10/08

In this episode, I'm sitting down with Professor Nick Titov—a giant in digital mental health and founder of MindSpot, Australia's leading digital psychology service that has reached over 250,000 Australians. If you've ever wondered whether therapy has to look the way it's always looked, this conversation will shake up everything you thought you knew. Nick isn't just innovating patient care—he's challenging the profession to wake up and adapt. We're living through a seismic shift. Consumer beh...

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59:19

Let’s Talk About Sex (Online): Navigating the Ethics,...

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2025/10/01

In this episode, I’m sitting down with the bold, brilliant, and whip-smart Laura Lee - a psychologist, sexologist, coach, and the founder of Blue Space Psychology - to dive into what it actually takes to talk about sex online as a regulated health professional. Laura’s work lives at the intersection of mental health, sex, and relationships. And let’s just say, that combo can light up the AHPRA risk radar faster than you can say “shadowban.” So how do you balance professional responsibility wi...

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95:00

“What If I Get It Wrong?” Two Therapists on Doubt,...

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2025/09/22

In this episode, I’m sitting down with Alice Ayliffe and Elise Cassidy — two incredible therapists and Incubator graduates — to explore what it really looks like to move beyond the 1:1 model and create programs that change lives. If you’ve ever wondered, Where do I even start? Will anyone want what I create? What if I get it wrong? — this conversation is for you. Alice is an occupational therapist based in Hobart who has carved out a powerful niche supporting adults with ADHD and training oth...

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