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The Public Lands Policy Podcast

Trout Stream Studios

The Public Lands Policy Podcast delves into the essential topics shaping the future of public lands in the United States. Join host Andrew Sandstrom, an experienced environmental policy writer and radio commentator, as he brings together voices from Utah, Colorado, and beyond, featuring land managers, ranchers, hunters, and conservation experts. Whether you"re passionate about policy, outdoor recreation, or sustainable land management, this podcast provides in-depth conversations on issues impacting

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Episode 6 - How to Fire Your Workforce (Civil Service...

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2025/03/13

We cut fast and cut deep in this episode with “notorious anti-ESG lobbyist” Nephi Cole, who helps us dissect the recent wave of federal layoffs that’s hit public lands agencies in the last month. From the Forest Service to National Parks, thousands of public employees have been sent packing. Nephi explains how the unorthodox approach of Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency is affecting federal agencies, how the administration's approach seems to be changing, and how to cut fat in federal

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Episode 5 - "Wise Use and Wooly Mammoths"

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2025/01/25

From outcome-based grazing to resurrecting Ice Age megafauna, this episode covers the full spectrum of modern conservation. Isaiah Menning, external affairs manager at the American Conservation Coalition, joins us to discuss his research on conservation leasing and the controversial Public Lands Rule. We dive into how giving ranchers more flexibility could lead to better ecological outcomes, why the Biden administration's conservation leasing proposal sparked such fierce opposition in the West, and

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Episode 4 - Unpacking the 2024 Election's Public...

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2024/12/15

David Willms from the Your Mountain podcast joins us for a rollicking ride through the potential public lands policy shifts after the 2024 election. From the fate of Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante to the future of conservation leasing, oil drilling, and the controversial mountain lion hunting initiatives, we dive deep into the policy footballs that could reshape America's landscapes. The Your Mountain podcast episode on Utah's

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Episode 2 - Hunting Bans and Gun-Toting Presidential...

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2024/11/04

Gabriella Hoffman, Director for the Center for Energy and Conservation at the Independent Women's Forum, joins me to discuss conservation in the presidential election, including Tim Walz’s conservation cosplay and speculation on why more outdoorsmen and -women don’t run for high office. We also talk about ways to educate the masses on hunting and fishing and hit on the potential impact of Colorado's Proposition 127, which could ban Cougar hunting, on wildlife populations and hunting traditions.The

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Episode 3 - From Red Tape to Results: Rep. Celeste...

The Public Lands Policy Podcast ·

2024/11/04

Congresswoman Celeste Maloy (UT-02) calls in from the bustling metropolis of Scipio, Utah to discuss her latest work on natural resources issues in Congress. Rep. Maloy brings something rare to Capitol Hill: actual hands-on experience in public lands management. From her days as a soil conservationist to her current role crafting legislation like the FREE Act, Rep. Maloy breaks down how Washington really works (or doesn't) when it comes to Western land management. We dive into the nuts and bolts of

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Episode 1 - Playing with Fire

The Public Lands Policy Podcast ·

2024/11/04

PERC Policy Director Hannah Downey joins us to explain why "fire season" has become as predictable as PSLs at Starbucks - but a lot less enjoyable. From the Ashley National Forest Aspen Project controversy to well-meaning environmental laws accidentally making forests more flammable, Hannah breaks down why forest management is getting trapped between bureaucratic red tape and lawsuit-happy environmental groups. We dive into how Indigenous fire practices got it right centuries ago, why saving trees

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