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Two Women Chatting

Welcome toTwo Women Chatting- the podcast where midlife gets real, inspiring, and finds the joy in our second chapter. Hosted by broadcaster and book lover Michelle Ford, each week we dive into the topics that matter most to women in their 40s, 50s and beyond: midlife reinvention, menopause, confidence, parenting grown-up kids, and navigating relationships.From bestselling authors like Elizabeth Day, and Donna Ashworth to wellbeing experts, celebrities, and women with extraordinary stories,Two Women

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42:11

Anna Williamson | Emotional Intimacy, Family Conflict...

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2025/12/16

In this warm, insightful, and laugh-out-loud episode, Michelle Ford sits down with presenter, counsellor, and podcast powerhouse Anna Williamson to explore one of midlife’s biggest topics: staying emotionally connected when life, family and festive chaos compete for your attention.Anna shares how emotional intimacy and active listening keeps long-term relationships thriving, why communication is usually at the heart of every issue, and how understanding the “seasons” of life can help couples

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32:21

Emma Bardwell | Why Fibre Might Be the Midlife...

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2025/11/25

In this fun, laugh-filled and genuinely eye-opening episode, Michelle Ford sits down with women’s health nutritionist Emma Bardwell to tackle one of the most underrated pillars of midlife wellbeing: fibre - the true unsung hero of women’s health. Between giggles over “poophoria” (yes, it’s a thing!) and some serious myth-busting, Michelle and Emma unpack why getting enough fibre and protein is essential - especially if you’re using GLP-1 weight-loss injections like Ozempic, Wegovy or Mounjaro. As

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35:12

Sally Morgan | The Secret Midlife Power You’ve Been...

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2025/11/18

In this deeply comforting and enlightening episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle Ford is joined by world-renowned psychic medium Sally Morgan to explore intuition, gut instinct, and the soul’s journey beyond the physical world.Sally shares how midlife is often a time when our psychic awareness and intuition naturally open up, giving us a stronger “spidey sense” and a clearer connection to the spiritual realm. She explains why trusting your gut isn’t just a metaphor - it’s a powerful way to

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39:44

Dr Helen Wall | ADHD in Midlife? Why It’s Not Too...

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2025/11/11

In this enlightening and deeply relatable episode, Michelle Ford sits down with Dr Helen Wall - GP, women’s health advocate and neurodiversity specialist — to unpack why so many women are being diagnosed (or self-diagnosing) with ADHD in midlife.Together, they explore how fluctuating hormones, juggling life in the sandwich generation, and seeing their children diagnosed are prompting many women to finally recognise traits in themselves. But this isn’t about “jumping on a trend” - it’s about

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32:07

Lisa Jewell | The Accidental Author Who Conquered...

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2025/11/04

In this episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle sits down with chart-topping author Lisa Jewell to talk about the twists and turns of storytelling - both on and off the page. From an out-of-work secretary in her 20s to the queen of psychological thrillers, Lisa shares how she found her voice, leaned into her dark side, and built a literary career that’s captured the world’s attention. Lisa reflects on how personal experiences, including a coercive past relationship, inspires her most complex

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26:32

Nicky Hambleton-Jones | From Brutal TV Drop to...

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2025/10/28

In this empowering episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle sits down with stylist, author, and TV presenter Nicky Hambleton-Jones to talk about bouncing back from public rejection, rediscovering purpose, and helping women feel bolder—not just older. Best known for fronting Channel 4’s 10 Years Younger, Nicky opens up about being abruptly dropped from the show, how that rocked her confidence, and the bold choices she made to reclaim her voice.With warmth, honesty, and a little lipstick, Nicky shares

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23:10

Gaby Roslin | Colour, Confidence & Choosing Joy Every...

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2025/10/21

In this episode, Michelle is joined by beloved broadcaster Gaby Roslin - known for The Big Breakfast, Morning Live, and Magic Radio - to explore how joy, kindness, and colour can transform our lives. Drawing from her uplifting book Spread the Joy, Gaby shares simple, science-backed ways to bring positivity into every day, from smiling at strangers to literally jumping for joy.Gaby opens up about her lifelong shyness, how she found confidence through connection, and why laughter and silliness are her

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40:40

Jane Moore | Midlife, Caregiving & Why Politicians...

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2025/10/14

Kicking off this conversation, Michelle is joined by journalist, broadcaster, and Loose Women panellist Jane Moore to unpack the realities of midlife, caregiving, being a good friend and women’s representation in the media. Jane reflects on her journey through journalism and television, from the challenges of caring for elderly parents to the unexpected personal growth that came from stepping into reality TV on I’m a Celebrity.With honesty and warmth, Jane shares how Loose Women has become a loyal

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40:08

Donna Ashworth | Midlife Joy & Letting Go of Perfection

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2025/10/07

In this uplifting episode of Two Women Chatting, Michelle is joined by Britain's number 1 bestselling nonfiction author Donna Ashworth to explore the healing power of poetry, the importance of community, and the choice to embrace joy - even in life’s most challenging moments. From her journey as an Instagram poet to becoming a celebrated author, Donna shares the philosophy behind her latest anthology Joy Chose You and the deeply personal process of curating poems that resonate with readers

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42:17

Elizabeth Day | How to Fail and Find Strength in...

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2025/09/30

Kicking off the first episode of Season 10, Michelle sits down with acclaimed journalist, novelist, and How to Fail podcast host Elizabeth Day to explore what we can learn from failure - and why our leaders need to fail better. Elizabeth opens up about how personal struggles, including fertility loss and heartbreak, shaped her outlook on vulnerability and strength. She also dives into the themes of her new novel One of Us, a psychological drama about power, privilege and the damage done by emotional

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🎙️ Season 10 of Two Women Chatting is here!

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2025/09/28

Michelle Ford is back with a brand-new season of Two Women Chatting – the podcast for midlife women - and this time, the universe has spoken: the theme is JOY.In this trailer, Michelle shares what’s coming up in Season 10, including conversations with some incredible guests:✨ Elizabeth Day on her moving new book One of Us✨ Donna Ashworth on her uplifting anthology Joy Chose You✨ Jane Moore with her wise, witty take on midlife✨ Gaby Roslin on spreading joy in everyday life✨ Nicky Hambleton-Jones on

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27:41

Summer Rewind: Jenny Eclair on Life After Menopause

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2025/08/05

In the latest 'out of the archives'Summer Rewind episode, we revisit our hilarious, sharp and heartfelt conversation with comedian, author and podcasterJenny Eclair, all aboutlife after menopause, ageing unapologetically, and embracing the next chapter with grit, wit, and a sense of humour.💬 What You’ll Hear In This Episode:Why boredom in your 50s and onwards is a myth– Jenny shares how she’salways busy, never bored, and how developing the“craft hormone” in midlifekeeps her creative and

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28:06

Summer Rewind: Dilly Carter on Clearing Clutter,...

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2025/07/29

In this Summer Rewind episode of Two Women Chatting, we're joined by organisation expert and 'Sort Your Life Out' TV favourite Dilly Carter, bringing her no-nonsense wisdom and heartfelt compassion to one of midlife’s trickiest transitions - what to do with 'all the stuff' once the kids move out, or when it's time to help parents downsize.💬 We talk:* What’s really worth keeping from early memories (hint: maybe just one of each…)* How to involve your kids in what stays and what goes (they might

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38:43

Summer Rewind: Andrea McLean on Midlife Reinvention,...

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2025/07/22

We’re rewinding to one of our most inspiring chats onTwo Women Chattingwith the brilliantAndrea McLean- bestselling author, broadcaster and midlife reinvention queen.In this episode, Andrea gets real about theinternal monologueof a midlife woman - from the fear of saying"no", to feeling small, stuck, or suddenly invisible. She talks candidly aboutloneliness,starting over, and creating aroadmapfor life’s big decisions (even when they lead to gloriously messy detours).And yes - we absolutely discuss

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33:08

Summer Rewind: Dame Prue Leith on Colour, Confidence...

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2025/07/15

Summer Rewind: We're revisiting some of our most memorable conversations - and this one is an absolute gem!In this inspiring archive episode, Dame Prue Leith joins Michelle to talk about living boldly, dressing brightly, and speaking out on issues that matter. Prue shares how embracing colour in midlife isn’t just about fashion - it’s about confidence, visibility and joy. Age, she insists, should never limit our choices or silence our sense of fun.The conversation then takes a heartfelt turn, as

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27:44

Summer Rewind: Louise Minchin on Empty Nesting and...

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2025/07/08

🎙️ Summer Rewind: Louise Minchin on Empty Nesting and Reinvention in MidlifeIn this specialSummer Rewindepisode from theTwo Women Chattingarchive,Liz and Michellerevisit their inspiring conversation with TV presenter, journalist and authorLouise Minchin. Louise opens up about her deeply personal journey throughempty nest syndrome, sharing the unexpected grief and sense of loss she felt when both her daughters left home for university.Louise explains how she overcame this emotional rollercoaster by

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45:27

Midlife, Menopause & Magnificence: A No-Holds-Barred...

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2025/06/10

In this no-holds-barred conversation, Michelle chats with journalist, author, and campaigner Kate Muir about the silent epidemic affecting women in midlife - bone health. They unpack the emotional and physical toll of menopause, how hormonal changes can impact everything from mental health to neurodivergence, and why it’s time for women to take charge of their midlife wellbeing. From wild swimming to strength training to HRT, Kate advocates for preventative healthcare and reclaims the midlife

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37:01

Spilling the tea with Tova Leigh - Why Gossip Isn't a...

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2025/06/03

This week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle welcomes the brilliant and bold Tova Leigh - writer, performer, and fierce advocate for female empowerment - for a refreshingly honest and insightful conversation. From reclaiming the word "gossip" as a force for good to navigating midlife friendships, Tova shares her journey of self-expression, boundary-setting and building meaningful female connections.They also dive into deeper issues like toxic masculinity, the rise of figures like Andrew Tate, and the

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43:19

Laughing, Living & Lifting Women in Midlife with...

Two Women Chatting ·

2025/05/13

This week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle is joined by dynamic duo Marie Thom and Yvonne Vincent for a witty, heartfelt conversation about navigating midlife with confidence, creativity, and community. From finding their voices through writing to embracing ageing with a sense of humour, Marie and Yvonne share how life after 40 can be the most empowering chapter yet.They also introduce their exciting new podcast, Hear Me Roar, which celebrates the midlife journeys of both women and men - breaking

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49:42

Champion of Change: Dame Kelly Holmes on Diversity...

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2025/05/06

This week on Two Women Chatting, Michelle celebrates the 100th episode with none other than Olympic legend and advocate Dame Kelly Holmes in a powerful and deeply personal conversation. From winning double gold to becoming a fearless voice for LGBTQ+ rights and women's health, Kelly shares her journey of transformation with honesty and passion.Marking this special milestone episode, Kelly reflects on the ups and downs of life after sport and military service, the power of vulnerability and why she

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