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Steep Ravine...Deep Thoughts About Running

Two old friends and former college runners talk about what’s happening in the world of distance running.

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53:26

Episode 91: Dave and Matt's Top Pick Performances...

Steep Ravine...Deep Thoughts About Running ·

2026/04/06

Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank catch up on life in Napa—Matt describes swapping Roundup for sheep, cultivating and rolling the vineyard, and shares small‑town farming stories.They also break down recent track & field highlights: Shelby Hillahan’s 10K attempt, Kai Robinson and Woody Kincaid’s duel, Jane Hedengren’s NCAA‑level 10K, Cooper Lutkenhaus’s 800m world indoor win at 17, Stanford meet breakouts, college and high‑school results, coaching updates, and upcoming meets.

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52:26

Episode 90: This Dynasty is the Real Deal: 30 Years...

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2026/03/24

Matt and Dave interview Gary Towne, longtime Chico State cross country and track coach, about his 30-year career building a nationally competitive distance program and the culture behind sustained success.Gary discusses recruiting, athlete development, training philosophy, memorable races, alumni support, and the programs remarkable consistency, including a decades-long streak of conference 5K winners.

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45:24

Episode 89: 26.2 to Life - Inside San Quentin’s...

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2026/03/18

In this episode Matt and Dave speak with Peter Goldmacher about the Thousand Mile Club, a running program at San Quentin where incarcerated men train to run a marathon and find purpose, community, and rehabilitation.They discuss the club’s impact, coaching practices, the documentary 26.2 to Life, sponsor support, and how running helps transform lives both inside and beyond the prison walls.

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62:17

Episode 88: There's Altitude Trainers, Sea Level...

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2026/03/09

Episode 88 of the Steep Ravine Podcast features Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank talking with Brad Barquist about his running journey from Bellevue and Interlake High School to the University of Michigan and a professional career with Mizuno. They cover his rapid rise in high school and college, coaching relationships, and memorable PRs and All‑American performances.The conversation culminates with Brad’s dramatic making of the 1996 U.S. Olympic 10,000m team — training in Georgia’s heat, battling

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67:34

Episode 87: Pat Tyson, From Pre's Roommate to a...

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2026/03/02

On this episode of Steep Ravine, hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank sit down with legendary coach and former University of Oregon runner Pat Tyson. They cover his time as a teammate and roommate of Steve Prefontaine, the famous "Oregon system" of training, and stories from NCAA cross-country championships.The conversation also explores Tyson’s coaching career — building exceptional high school programs at Shoreline and Mead, his long-term philosophy of consistency and belief, and his current work

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57:51

Episode 86: 31 Years, 21 State Titles, Inside a High...

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2026/02/24

Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank welcome coach Chris Johnson of Siuslaw High School to discuss his 31-year career, the program’s state championship success, and memorable local stories from Florence, Oregon.The episode also covers major track news: Keely Hodgkinson’s World Record 1:54.87 indoor 800m, Tshepiso Masalela’s controversial 1500m disqualification, youngster Sam Ruthe's U20 dominance in his native Australia, Ethan Shuley's outta-nowhere 2:07 Osaka Marathon finish, fast college DMRs, and

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42:56

Episode 85: The Indoor Season is Red Hot

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2026/02/18

Matt Wilkinson and Dave Friend break down a whirlwind of indoor track action since the Millrose Games, covering standout meets at the Husky Classic, JDL Sound Running and Boston University’s Valentine's Day Invitational.Highlights include Femke Bol’s surprise sub-2:00 800 debut, multiple collegiate PRs and record attempts, fast pro miles (including a 3:45 American indoor run), and grassroots racing stories that show rising talent and deep fields across events.

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48:19

Episode 84: Millrose Magic

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2026/02/10

Matt and Dave recap their Millrose Games weekend — fast races, tactical thrills, and memorable meetups. They cover Cole Hocker’s smart two‑mile win, Cam Myers’ breakout mile, Ellie St. Pierre’s comeback, and Colin Sahlman’s record indoor 800, plus behind‑the‑scenes stories from New York and Boston. Between snowbound visits with coaches, surprise run‑ins with athletes, and infield VIP moments, the episode mixes race analysis with travel anecdotes and the friendships that make the sport special.

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58:28

Episode 83: From the Slow Heat to Multi-time National...

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2026/01/28

Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank welcome Patty Gray-Bellan to episode 83 to talk about her start in running, NCAA titles at UC Davis, marathon victories, career in education and coaching, life in Boise, and the lifelong friendships and community built through running.

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56:15

Episode 82: World Cross Country Championships and KO...

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2026/01/15

Matt and Dave recap the World Cross Championships in Tallahassee, highlighting Australia’s surprise mixed-relay win, standout individual performances, and team podiums, plus visa issues that affected entries. They also review the U.S. club championships, masters races, and memorable upsets and breakout runs.The hosts then break down fast road results from Houston (including multiple sub-60 men and ten women under 68) and the Valencia 10K, discuss upcoming indoor meets like Millrose, share coaching

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38:10

Episode 81: Not much going on over the holidays - yet...

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2025/12/31

Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank find plenty to discuss despite the holiday-related lull in running competition.

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71:53

Episode 80: Rod Berry is an Extraordinary Guy

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2025/12/16

Matt and Dave welcome longtime friend Rod Berry to recap recent cross‑country highlights — NXN, the USA Cross‑Country Championships and the Sharon Colyear-Danville Indoor Season Opener at Boston University.They then dive into Rod’s life and running career, from Redwood and Stanford to coaching, memorable race stories, and his epic 5,100‑mile European Divide bike adventure at age 65, sharing humor, wisdom and endurance lessons.

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70:02

Episode 79: NCAA Cross-Country Championships and...

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2025/11/30

Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank break down the latest cross-country moments: comprehensive NCAA championship coverage (D1–D3), standout individual runs, and a thrilling women’s duel between Doris Lemongole and freshman Jane Hedengren. They highlight team results, surprising finishes, and notable performances across the men’s and women’s fields.The episode also covers the California State high school championships—including team and individual winners and combined-region implications for

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65:53

Episode 78: High School and NCAA Regional XC Updates

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2025/11/17

Matt and Dave recap the excitement from Oregon state meets, share coaching stories and standout performances, and discuss how athletes fared at regional Nike and NCAA qualifying races.They also break down key college regionals, at-large bids, and individual standouts while previewing the upcoming national championships and what to watch next week.

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53:03

Episode 77: Three Ivy League Standouts Raise the...

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2025/11/10

Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank talk with three top collegiate runners — Connor Foley (Dartmouth), Hayden Boaz (Princeton) and Ben Bouie (Harvard) — about recent races, transitioning from high school to college running, and balancing Ivy League academics with elite training.

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62:25

Episode 76: Deep in the Heart of Cross Country Season

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2025/11/03

Matt and Dave catch up on listener shout-outs and Lyle Smith’s NIWOT connection, plus reflections on Van Cortland and college conference races.They cover major storylines: Iowa State issues, Jane Hedendren’s dominant performance, Ivy League highlights, and the New York City Marathon’s dramatic photo finish. They finish with local high school district results, personal coaching updates, and reactions to an unforgettable World Series.

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67:36

Episode 75: Connor Mantz Rules! And a ton of Cross...

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2025/10/20

Matt and Dave unpack a massive weekend in running: standout freshman performances at Princeton and Nuttycombe, BYU’s dominant showing at Pre-Nationals, and strong NCAA meet results. They discuss team dynamics, course differences, and the nuances behind fast cross-country times. They also dive into the Chicago Marathon, highlighting record-pace efforts and impressive pros like Connor and Galen, then wrap with local high school updates and personal coaching stories.

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70:48

Episode 74: Blood, Sweat, and Spikes: Inside...

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2025/10/10

On this episode of The Steep Ravine Podcast, Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank interview Lyle Smith about his book Blood, Sweat, and Spikes, the rise of Bernardsville’s legendary running program, and the coaching influence of Ed Mather and Mark Wetmore.Lyle shares behind-the-scenes stories of youth clubs, the Lydiard-inspired training, national meets, and how that culture followed athletes from a tiny New Jersey town to Boulder’s elite teams; the book is available in bookstores and on Audible.

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48:45

Episode 73: World Champs Shockers & Hocker’s Last-Lap...

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2025/09/26

Hosts Matt Wilkinson and Dave Frank break down highlights from the World Athletics Championships, including dramatic finishes, surprise medalists, and standout performances from athletes like Cole Hocker, Faith Kipyegon, Isaac Nader, and more.They mix race analysis with personal stories from a UC Davis gathering, a Heidelberg beer anecdote, notes on live scoring in the multis, and a look ahead to the cross-country season.

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34:39

Episode 72: Geordie Beamish is a Steeplechaser's...

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2025/09/15

Live reactions and analysis from the World Championships: 1500m semis filled with falls and a controversial move by Cole Hawker under review, Ethan Strand’s agonizing near‑miss, and dramatic steeplechase and field event finishes. ESPN keeps calling Dave to see if he's available to announce next year's Prefontaine meet.

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