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Cybersecurity Where You Are (video)

Center for Internet Security

Welcome to video version of “Cybersecurity Where You Are,” the podcast of the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Cybersecurity affects us all, so join us on Wednesdays as Sean Atkinson, CISO at CIS; Tony Sager, SVP & Chief Evangelist at CIS; and Ed Skoudis, President of the SANS Technology Institute discuss trends and threats, explore security best practices, and interview experts in the industry. Together, we’ll clarify these issues, Creating Confidence in the Connected World®. Subscribe to the

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Episode 208: Secure Harness Engineering for Agentic AI

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2026/10/07

In episode 208 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson breaks down secure harness engineering for agentic artificial intelligence (AI). Noting the risks posed by AI agents acting without oversight, he highlights "episodes" as auditable elements that help to provide feedback, and he walks through 15 controls spread across five stages as a way to engineer an AI harness with security in mind. He also differentiates secure harness engineering from prompt engineering, guardrails, frameworks, logs,

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Episode 207: AI Risk Management — A Trust Relationship

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2026/09/30

In episode 207 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson makes the case for treating artificial intelligence (AI) not as software but as an ongoing trust relationship. He highlights the value of integrating best practices from regulations like the EU AI Act, walks through the three stages of an AI governance lifecycle, and explains how AI risk management fits into organizational governance, change management, and other business processes.Here are some highlights from our episode:01:16. The trust

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Episode 206: Trust and Influence as CISO Survival Skills

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2026/09/23

In episode 206 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager speak with Julie Morris, Founder and Head of Thought Leadership at Persona Media, about why trust and influence have become survival skills for today's CISOs. Julie breaks down three types of organizational power, explains why the "good guys" resist the language of influence, and offers a practical starting point for anyone who's ever felt like PowerShell was the only power they understood.Here are some highlights from our

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Episode 205: Secure by Design — Now Updated for AI

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2026/09/16

In episode 205 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Tony Sager speaks with Phyllis Lee, VP of SBP Content Development at the Center for Internet Security®(CIS®), and Steve Lipner, Executive Director of SAFECode. Together, they discuss how updated guidance from CIS and SAFECode gives concrete guidance on what artificial intelligence (AI) means for your Secure by Design process.Here are some highlights from our episode:02:17. A refresher on making Secure by Design digestible for end organizations02:57

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Episode 204: FWC26 and the New Bar for Event Security

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2026/09/09

In episode 204 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Ryan Winmill, Chief Security Officer and Vice President of FIFA World Cup Boston, and John Cohen, Executive Director of the Office of Strategic Programs and Initiatives at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they discuss how FIFA World Cup 2026 (FWC26) — secured through an unprecedented tripartite governance framework, $625 million in U.S. Congressional funding, and real-time intelligence that stopped a swatting attempt at the finals —

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Episode 203: Cyber Attacks' Human Impact — Beyond the...

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2026/09/02

In episode 203 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson speaks with Pavlina Pavlova, Founder of Critical Cyber. Together, they discuss how Pavlina started Critical Cyber to go beyond the data and give voice to the human impact of cyber attacks, from ransomware hitting hospitals to cyber tactics targeting civilians in active conflict zones.Here are some highlights from our episode:00:44. How Pavlina's work covering the impact of cyber attacks on Ukrainian critical infrastructure led to Critical

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Episode 202: Delineating AI Security and Cybersecurity

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2026/08/26

In episode 202 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Ed Skoudis sit down with Rob T. Lee, Chief of Research & Chief AI Officer at the SANS Institute. Together, they explore how the implications of multiple 2026 sandbox escapes of artificial intelligence (AI) models are starting to delineate AI security and cybersecurity.Here are some highlights from our episode:02:00. The historical context of one AI model's 2026 sandbox escape03:26. The impact of ethics, guardrails, and

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Episode 201: The Evolution and AI Enablement of...

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2026/08/19

In episode 201 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Ed Skoudis sit down with William Wright, Chief Executive Officer of Closed Door Security. Together, they reflect on the evolution of penetration testing, including the impact on pentesting from artificial intelligence (AI).Here are some highlights from our episode:01:03. How things have changed since William's and Ed's first pentests09:02. Community: A defining element of Capture The Flag (CTF) events14:47. Industry concerns over the

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Episode 200: Alan Paller's Vision and Our Next Chapter

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2026/08/12

In episode 200 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson, Tony Sager, and Ed Skoudis sit down with Frank Reeder, Co-Founder and Founding Chair of the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they reflect on how Alan Paller's vision continues to drive CIS forward. In the spirit of that vision, this milestone episode also marks a new chapter for the podcast: Ed Skoudis joins as co-host of Cybersecurity Where You Are.Here are some highlights from our episode:01:09. The two complementary

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Episode 199: Translating Cyber Risk into Business...

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2026/08/05

In episode 199 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager sit down with Chris Painter, Chair of the Risk Committee and Board Member at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they discuss how chief information security officers (CISOs) can support the work of translating cyber risk into business decisions by Boards.Here are some highlights from our episode:00:50. Introductions to Chris01:36. The single biggest translation error Chris has seen CISOs make07:38. Cyber risk

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Episode 198: AI Privacy from a Risk-Based Perspective

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2026/07/29

In episode 198 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson discusses artificial intelligence (AI) and privacy from a risk-based cybersecurity perspective. Together, he explores how organizations and individuals can assess AI risk, apply governance frameworks, evaluate third-party AI services, and balance innovation with due diligence.Here are some highlights from our episode:00:41. Framing the conversation around AI, privacy, and risk-based controls02:22. Due diligence and ethical considerations

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Episode 197: AI-ready OT Data Begins with Understanding

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2026/07/22

In episode 197 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson sits down with Ben Wilcox, Chief Technology Officer and Chief Information Security Officer at ProArch; and Ed Skoudis, President of SANS Technology Institute. Together, they discuss artificial intelligence (AI), operational technology (OT) data, and how understanding creates the foundation for AI-ready OT data.Here are some highlights from our episode:00:54. Introductions to Ben and Ed02:16. How we understand and integrate AI into OT

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Episode 196: Securing FIFA World Cup 2026...

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2026/07/15

In episode 196 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson sits down with Sasha Larkin, Director of Intelligence and C4 Operations for FIFA World Cup 2026, and John Cohen, Executive Director of the Office of Strategic Programs and Initiatives at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they discuss how CIS, FIFA, and FIFA World Cup 2026 host cities started collaborating in 2025 on cybersecurity, public safety, intelligence, and information-sharing efforts supporting the largest sporting

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Episode 195: Enigma Machines’ Security Lessons for Today

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2026/07/08

In episode 195 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager sit down with Ed Skoudis, President of SANS Technology Institute, and Marcus Sachs, Senior Vice President and Chief Engineer at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they discuss Enigma machines, their history, and their security lessons for today.Here are some highlights from our episode:00:56. Introductions to Ed and Marc01:32. What Enigma machines are and why cybersecurity folks still care about them

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Episode 194: 2026 Cybersecurity Predictions Mid-Year...

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2026/07/01

In episode 194 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager sit down with Ed Skoudis, President of SANS Technology Institute. Together, they conduct a mid-year review of 2026 cybersecurity predictions from seven Center for Internet Security® (CIS®) experts, as shared on the CIS website.Here are some highlights from our episode:01:50. Ongoing conversations about improving defense with artificial intelligence (AI)05:19. A trap to avoid: Automating things with AI because we can

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Episode 193: AI Security and Responsibility in EO 14409

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2026/06/24

In episode 193 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager sit down with Rob T. Lee, Chief of Research & Chief AI Officer at the SANS Institute, and Brian Calkin, Chief Technology and Innovation Officer at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they discuss AI security and the responsibility of the U.S. government in creating confidence around it, as represented in Executive Order (EO) 14409, "Promoting Advanced Artificial Intelligence Innovation and Security."Here

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Episode 192: How Leaders Balance Expertise and...

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2026/06/17

In episode 192 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager sit down with Marcus Sachs, Senior Vice President and Chief Engineer at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they discuss how leaders, including those in cybersecurity, balance their technical expertise with mastery of communication strategies.Here are some highlights from our episode:00:51. Introductions to Marcus02:04. How Marcus found value in using analogies to communicate complex topics08:40. Coordination

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Episode 191: GenAI Misuse for Physical Threat Planning

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2026/06/10

In episode 191 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson sits down with Sasha Elvenaes, Sr. Multidimensional Threat Analyst at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®), and Rian Davis, Multidimensional Threat Analyst at CIS. Together, they discuss how threat actors are misusing generative artificial intelligence (GenAI) to plan physical threats.Here are some highlights from our episode:00:40. Introductions to Sasha, Rian, and their research on GenAI misuse01:56. The impact of GenAI on lowering

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Episode 190: Separating Mythos AI Fact from Fiction

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2026/06/03

In episode 190 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager sit down with Brian Calkin, Chief Technology and Innovation Officer at the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Together, they separate fact from fiction around artificial intelligence (AI) capabilities like Mythos AI and other AI-driven vulnerability discovery tools.Here are some highlights from our episode:00:50. Greetings to Brian and setting the stage for questions from a CIS webinar03:05. The lack of a unified formula

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Episode 189: The Present and Future of AI-enabled...

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2026/05/27

In episode 189 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson sits down with Ed Skoudis, President of SANS Technology Institute. Together, they discuss the present and future of pentesting enabled by artificial intelligence (AI).Here are some highlights from our episode:00:39. Introductions to Ed01:49. The promise of AI-enabled pentesting in creating more secure infrastructure04:52. AI-enabled and AI-centric workflows in the realm of penetration testing08:03. Wranglers, matadors, and centaurs, oh my

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