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Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show

Brand2Brand provides unfiltered conversations on brand strategy, marketing trends, and emerging technology for business leaders. Whether you want to sharpen your strategy or sound cool at parties, this show is for you. Join hosts Thomas Stirling and Veronica St. Cyr to explore the marketing lessons we can learn from the champagne-worthy wins and hardcore fails of well-known brands. This podcast has been described as "what you imagine marketing professionals would talk about at a bar." So grab your

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19:43

LEGO vs IKEA: Leveraging Product Systems for...

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2025/11/12

By inviting customers to experiment, build, and co-create alongside them, LEGO and IKEA have transformed their modular product systems into engines for creativity and loyalty.In this episode, Tom and Veronica explore how both brands are translating their product systems into storytelling systems. Because in the end, you’re not just marketing a product—you’re marketing the entire experience of using it too.🎧 For full episode resources and references, visit stirlingbrandworks.com.

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20:55

Intuit vs Aerie: The New Rules of AI and Audience...

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2025/10/29

AI might be revolutionizing business, but that doesn’t mean your customers love it too. For brands like Intuit, AI represents efficiency, innovation, and next-gen thinking. But for lifestyle brands like Aerie, audiences crave human creativity and realness when that’s what the brand is built on.From FinTech to fashion, we’re unpacking how each side of the AI debate shapes brand trust and audience loyalty—and why success isn’t about if you use AI, but how you use it.For the full episode research and

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37:37

Happy Hour with Ted Schlueter: How Differentiated...

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2025/10/16

Grab a drink—it’s Happy Hour! Today, Tom sits down with Ted Schlueter, CEO of The Grist and author of Branding for Buyout, to talk brand equity, mergers and acquisitions, and how founders are simplifying their future exit strategies by baking it into the brand itself.Tune in as we hear from Ted on how he’s helped businesses from CPG to B2B tech dramatically increase their valuation, and how you can use these strategies in your own brand planning.For the full episode research and reference materials,

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19:44

HomeGoods vs BILT: Why Long-form Storytelling Still...

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2025/08/28

Attention spans may be shrinking, but the smartest brands are proving that long-form storytelling still wins.In this episode of Brand2Brand, Tom and Veronica dig into how both brands are creating binge-worthy series that blur the line between ad and entertainment—and why the future of advertising isn’t about interrupting content, it’s about being the content.From trust and brand loyalty to engagement and sentiment, we unpack how long-form storytelling builds deeper connections, why episodic content

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19:21

American Eagle vs. Dove: Great Jeans Sparked Buzz,...

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2025/08/07

When it comes to marketing to women, confidence is a commodity. But while American Eagle is blowing up over its choice to release—and then continue to defend—a headline-chasing campaign, Dove’s decades-long commitment to sincerity and openness is proving that purpose still pays off.In this episode, Tom and Veronica break down how American Eagle’s “Great Jeans” campaign went viral for all the wrong reasons, while Dove’s focus on Real Beauty continues to build lasting trust. From risky brand messaging

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20:02

Apple vs. Nike: How Confidence Builds (and Breaks)...

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2025/07/16

With bold storytelling and smart strategy, Apple and Nike surpassed their brand identities to become cultural forces. But even with decades of iconic messaging and storytelling under their belts, there’s no room for complacency in the fight to stay relevant. In this episode, Tom and Veronica unpack how confident decision-making and a clear brand voice have kept Nike at the top of its game—while Apple’s hesitation and blurred identity are chipping away at its cultural power. From iconic campaigns to

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34:52

Happy Hour with Julie Sullivan: The Power of...

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2025/06/26

“Storytelling” sounds great in your marketing plan, but successful marketers must go beyond the buzzword when leading with customer-driven stories.This week, Tom joins Julie Sullivan, VP of EdAdvisory Marketing at Bright Horizons, in the studio to unpack why authentic, peer-driven narratives are moving the needle better than polished brand soundbites can. Grab a drink and join us for happy hour as we learn from an industry leader how you can use the right stories to maximize your marketing

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19:30

Keurig Dr. Pepper vs. PepsiCo: Hiring Creative Talent...

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2025/05/28

The in-house vs. agency debate is constantly shifting, but with AI now redefining the landscape, brands are rethinking what kind of creative teams they really need. While some, like PepsiCo, are building robust in-house studios, others like Keurig Dr. Pepper are shutting them down entirely. In this episode of Brand2Brand, we're breaking down the real story behind KDP and PepsiCo’s creative models and what they signal for marketers.For the episode research and reference materials, visit

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19:06

Heinz vs Graza: Bottling the Brand

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2025/04/23

What happens when a century-old condiment king squares off against olive oil’s DTC darling? In this episode, we dig into how Heinz and Graza use packaging, storytelling, and brand identity to dominate their segments. From nostalgic glass bottles to functional flair, what can marketers learn from these everyday pantry items turned icons?For the episode research and reference materials, visit stirlingbrandworks.com.

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19:17

State Farm vs. Tide: The New Age of Product Placement

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2025/03/26

Marketing and entertainment have always shared the screen, but while consumers find more ways to skip ads to view their content, brands are flipping the script back at them. As brands find new ways to blur the line between content and advertising, we’re diving into their evolution from blatant on-screen logos to full plot integration.For the episode research and reference materials, visit stirlingbrandworks.com.

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22:49

Pringles & Little Caesars vs. Oatly & Nespresso: The...

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2025/03/12

Brand collabs are having a moment, and for good reason—when done right, these partnerships create a valuable experience while reaching beyond their own individual audiences. With more brands teaming up than ever, join our hosts as they dig into the alliances that made an impact and the circumstances that brought them together.

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23:37

Bonus Episode: Beyond the Big Game

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2025/03/06

Everyone loves to talk about Super Bowl ads the day after the big game—but which ones actually scored big beyond the hype? Which brands used their $8M ad slot to leave a lasting mark, and which ones dropped the ball before the confetti even hit the turf?Join our hosts for a post-game breakdown of the biggest brand touchdowns, the marketing fumbles, and the plays that made all the difference.For the episode research and reference materials, visit stirlingbrandworks.com.

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35:45

Happy Hour with Barb Reilly

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2024/09/26

Join us for a Brand2Brand Happy Hour with special guest Barb Reilly! As President of the Ad Club in Boston and a seasoned Fractional CMO, Barb has guided brands like JetBlue and PopCorners/PepsiCo to find their strategic sweet spot. In this episode, she reveals why the Fractional CMO is changing the game for brands, offering flexibility and focus like never before.This episode, we’re enjoying craft brews from Bent Water Brewing Company, so join us in grabbing a drink, and tune in for brand

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25:24

Bonus Episode: Season Three Highlight Reel

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2024/02/21

And that’s a wrap! As we close out another season of the show, we pulled all the best moments together for another highlight reel. Tune in to join Thomas and Veronica as they revisit everything from adapting heritage brands to stay relevant, the importance of leadership’s personal brand and how to best speak to your audience.For the episode research and reference materials, visit stirlingbrandworks.com/insights.

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20:43

Liberty Mutual vs. Pepsi: Marketing In-House or Agency

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2024/02/07

In this episode, we explore how Pepsi and Liberty Mutual found marketing success despite their different approaches to advertising. Pepsi has consistently relied on its in-house expertise while collaborating with many agency partners. Conversely, Liberty Mutual strengthened its internal team to develop an in-house agency that takes on other clients. Both are growing due to finding the right strategic mix and proving there’s no “one size fits all” approach.For the episode research and reference

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19:14

GEICO vs. Progressive: How Marketing Made Insurance Fun

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2024/01/03

In this episode, get ready to dissect how GEICO and Progressive flipped the script, turning an industry known for its snooze-fest advertising into a marketing powerhouse. With a cocktail of audacious humor and unforgettable mascots, these brands rewrote the rules, proving that even insurance can be cool. This episode is a masterclass in marketing bravado, showcasing how bold moves can ignite an industry-wide revolution and change the game in connecting with audiences. For the episode research and

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16:58

Polaroid vs. Converse: Selling With Nostalgia

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2023/12/20

Polaroid and Converse, each with a rich history and a deeply ingrained place in pop culture, demonstrate the power of nostalgia in modern branding. In this episode, we explore their strategies for staying true to their roots while evolving to meet contemporary tastes, treating their products as commodities and enduring icons of style and sentiment. For the episode research and reference materials, visit stirlingbrandworks.com/insights.

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19:33

L.L. Bean vs. Stanley: Heritage Brand Adaptation for...

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2023/12/06

This episode unpacks how these iconic outdoor brands, L.L. Bean and Stanley, have reinvented themselves for new generations, blending tradition with trendy campaigns and digital-era fame. Perfect for marketers and brand enthusiasts, it's full of insights on evolving classic brands in today's fast-paced market. For the episode research and reference materials, visit stirlingbrandworks.com/insights.

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20:35

Fortnite vs. PRIME: Building Brand Loyalty with the...

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2023/11/22

Silly rabbit, brands are for kids! Explore the changing landscape of digital marketing with two powerhouse brands: YouTuber Logan Paul's PRIME energy drink and the gaming sensation Fortnite. Discover clever media tactics, effective audience engagement strategies, and more in this must-listen episode filled with valuable insights and actionable takeaways for connecting to the younger generation. For the episode research and reference materials, visit stirlingbrandworks.com/insights.

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20:10

Yeti vs. Red Bull: Marketing a Lifestyle

Brand2Brand: The Marketing Show ·

2023/11/08

Join us on a thrilling journey through the innovative marketing strategies that popular brands Yeti and Redbull have used to go beyond selling products. Take lessons from these masters as we uncover how they leverage their brand to create a way of life that consumers are excited to participate in. This episode is jam-packed with tips and tricks you can use to captivate your audience and build a community around your brand.For the episode research and reference materials, visit

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