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CrimeChat with Nat and Kat

Natalie White and Kathleen Adams

We’re just two girls who simply indulge in their obsession with Dark Crimes, Evil Minds and occasionally the Unknown. With a background in federal law enforcement, Kat is dubbed as your Forensic Femme Fatale. Nat is your True Crime Addict Connoisseur with a background in behavioral science. Throw in the ABCs–alcohol, beauty, and comedy-with a bit of blood spatter, and you have the one and only CrimeChat with Nat and Kat Podcast! Find us on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and at

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#season4 #finale Episode 146: Into the Unknown ~ The...

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/09/28

#crimechatwithnatandkat brings you the #teaser for our #season4 #finale with Episode 146: Into the Unknown ~ The Hauntings of Pearl Bryan & The Whaley House! We wrap up this amazing season's Into the Unknown series with murder, mischief and more! Find out how Pearl Bryan was murdered and let us know if you think she still haunts today! Then, we get into the history of America's most haunted house, The Whaley House! Our Season Four Finale airs Saturday, September 27, 2025, anywhere you get your

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56:54

Episode 145: The Black Widow's Web ~ The Orsini Murders

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/09/20

#crimechatwithnatandkat present Episode 145: The Black Widow's Web ~ The Orsini Murders! In the 1980s, Mary "Lee" Orsini's husband was mysteriously shot in the head while he slept ... no weapon ... no evidence ... no witnesses! Then, Lee's lawyer's wife was shot in cold blood from men pretending to deliver her flowers ... only a month after an attempt on her life from a bomb under car that didn't fully detonate. Was this black widow really responsible for her husband's death? Was Lee and her lawyer

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69:35

Episode 144: The Woman in a Box

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/09/14

#crimechatwithnatandkat presents this week's Episode 144: The Woman in a Box! This story comes with a heavy warning—as one of the most extreme cases of abduction, torture, and captivity—even too disturbing for Hollywood! In 1972, in California, 19-year-old Cameron Hooker manipulated and love-bombed his 15-year-old soon-to-be wife, Janice, forcing her into a life of abuse volatile sexual fantasies. After a few years of marriage, Janice wanted to start a family and his torturing needed to stop. They

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55:32

Re-Release of Episode 082: The Disappearance of Dail...

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/09/06

Hey there, #Chatters! In Season 4, #crimechatwithnatandkat are re-releasing of some of our favorite and most-liked episodes, on the first Saturday of the month, while we research and prep for more stories of dark crimes, evil minds, and occasionally the unknown. This is our LAST re-release of #season4 -- Episode 082: The Disappearance of Dail Dinwiddie -- an open and unsolved mystery! In September of 1992, Dail and her friends went out for drinks after attending a U2 concert in Columbia, South

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12:32

#sneakpeek for our #season4 #bonus Episode 143: Into...

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/08/30

#crimechatwithnatandkat presents an audio #sneakpeek for our #season4 #bonus #series --Episode 143: Into the Unknown ~ The Bell Witch & Spring-Heeled Jack! Nat and Kat dissect more folklore as we dive into the 19th Century, digging up the stories of the Bell Witch in Tennessee and Spring-Heeled Jack in the United Kingdom! A #sneakpeek on these two cases airs #Saturday August 30, 2025, anywhere you get your favorite #truecrimepodcast! #googlepodcasts #amazonpodcasts #applepodcasts

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36:29

Episode 142: The Sherlock Holmes of France ~ A Crime...

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/08/23

#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you Episode 142: The Sherlock Holmes of France ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment! In 1912, 19-year-old Marie Latelle was murdered in her parents' France home. There were no witnesses. No fingerprints. No evidence. No forensics… or were there? Nat kicks off detailing how fingernail scrapings became part of forensic criminology. Then Kat digs into how pioneering criminologist, Dr. Edmond Locard, became the first to link cosmetics as trace evidence! Find out how and so

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56:24

Episode 141 - WILD WEST - The Cannibal Cowboy -...

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/08/16

#crimechatwithnatandkat presents this week's Episode 141: The Wild West & The Cannibal Cowboy #AlferdPacker! The #wildwest was, well, WILD! Kat breaks down the wild west atmospherics where survival meant everything... even as conflicts emerged between the #outlaws and the #lawmen. Then, Nat digs into the story of Alferd Packer--the infamous #cannibal of the wild, wild west! On his journey to find the gold, did Alferd kill in self-defense or did he murder and consume his victims? Find out more on

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43:37

Episode 140: Lost and Found - The Story of Luis...

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/08/09

#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you Episode 140: Lost and Found - The Story of Luis Armando Albino! Children who are kidnapped are a parent's worst fear... Nat starts with some abduction stats. Then, Kat tells the story of six-year-old Luis Armando Albino, whose family just migrated from Puerto Rico, was abducted at a playground in Oakland, California. But his family never gave up hope! Through genetic genealogy, he was remarkably found, located & reunited with his biological family!Find out more

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64:20

Re-Release of Episode 060: A Deep Sea Death

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/08/02

Hey there, #Chatters! In Season 4, #crimechatwithnatandkat are re-releasing of some of our favorite and most-liked episodes, on the first Saturday of the month, while we research and prep for more stories of dark crimes, evil minds, and occasionally the unknown. This week, we are ending our #sharkweek / #sharkmonth celebration with the #rerelease of Episode 060: A Deep Sea Death ~ with special guests Chris Adams and Skooshie! Kat tells the story of French record-setting #freediver #AudreyMestre

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57:03

Episode 139: The Acid King

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/07/26

#crimechatwithnatandkat brings you Episode 139: The Acid King! In the midst of #satanicpanic, widespread hysteria was characterized by satanic cult activity and ritual abuse. Kat starts off with some devilish facts & stats about #satanicpanic you may not be aware of. Then, we dive into Nat's story 😈 While Ricky Kasso's behaviors mimicked satanism, when he murdered his friend, it wasn't ritualistic--it was a drug-fueled spiral that ended in death. Find out more about what happened on Saturday,

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54:16

Episode 138: Murder by Shark!

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/07/19

#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you Episode 138: Murder by Shark! Is it possible for a shark be used as a murder weapon? Or as an accessory to murder? In this episode, Nat quizzes Kat on her shark knowledge with Sharkie or Malarkie! Then, Kat dives into three horrific stories of instances were sharks have, in fact, been lured with their natural instincts as apex predators to murder! Find out how on Saturday, July 19, 2025, anywhere you get your favorite #truecrimepodcasts -- Happy Shark Week,

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49:20

Episode 137: Movie vs. Reality🎬Real Exorcism. Real...

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/07/12

#crimechatwithnatandkat present this week's Episode 137 - Real Exorcism. Real Audio. Real Tragedy. | Movie vs. Reality🎬The Exorcism of Emily Rose vs. Anneliese Michel | REAL 6 DEMON AUDIO! 😱 You’ve seen The Exorcism of Emily Rose... but what if we told you the real story is even darker? This week on CrimeChat with Nat and Kat, Nat unearths the chilling case of Anneliese Michel— 🔊 With actual audio of six demons battling for control during her real exorcism. Screams that don’t sound human. Growls

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45:35

Re-Release of Episode 102: The Shark Arm Murder Case

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/07/05

Hey there, #Chatters! In Season 4, #crimechatwithnatandkat are re-releasing of some of our favorite and most-liked episodes, on the first Saturday of the month, while we research and prep for more stories of dark crimes, evil minds, and occasionally the unknown. This week, we are re-releasing one of our #ChatterFavorites -- and this one is just in time for #sharkweek -- Episode 102: The Shark Arm Murder Case! Kat breaks down how -- in 1935, in Sydney, Australia -- a human arm was regurgitated by a

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38:50

Episode 136: Allie Shehorn ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/06/28

#crimechatwithnatandkat presents Episode 136: Allie Shehorn ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment! This story takes us behind the scenes of the attempted murder of one of Hollywood’s award-winning makeup and special effects artists, Allie Shehorn. Three days after being issued a restraining order against her estranged boyfriend, actor/producer Nick Pasqual, he broke into her home, stabbed her more than 20 times, and left her for dead! Find out more about this on-going case Saturday, June 28, 2025,

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47:01

Episode 135 - The Walls are Watching / The Daniel...

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/06/22

#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you the Episode 135: The Walls Are Watching - The Daniel LaPlante Story! Troubled teenager, Daniel LaPlante, had a tough childhood including development, fueling feelings of abandonment, bitterness, and resentment toward authority figures. By age 15, Daniel’s disturbing behavior had escalated significantly. What started out as burglary and stalking turned into obsession by hiding inside the walls of his victim's home, and eventually murder! Find out more on this creepy

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70:45

Episode 134: Code Name TRIGON

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/06/14

#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you Episode 134: Code Name TRIGON! In 1977, Martha “Marti” Peterson was the first female CIA case officer to operate in Moscow. By day, Marti was an administrative clerk at the US Embassy. By night, a CIA case officer. Especially in Moscow during the Cold War, the main rule of thumb: trust no one. The method: go unnoticed. The goal: survival. Marti ran a Soviet source, TRIGON--they never met in person and only communicated through dead drops. One night, Marti was

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71:58

Re-Release of Episode 051: The Spy Robert Hanssen

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/06/07

Hey there, #Chatters! In Season 4, #crimechatwithnatandkat are re-releasing of some of our favorite and most-liked episodes, on the first Saturday of the month, while we research and prep for more stories of dark crimes, evil minds, and occasionally the unknown. This week, we are re-releasing one of our #ChatterFavorites -- Episode 051: The Spy Robert Hanssen! Kat details through the decades of then-FBI Special Agent Robert Hanssen and how his continued effort to trade secrets for money with the

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#sneakpeek for #bonus Episode 133: Into the Unknown ~...

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/05/31

#crimechatwithnatandkat presents this week's #sneakpeek #audio for our #season4 #bonus #series with Episode 133: Into the Unknown ~ Creepy Ass Dolls! Nat and Kat dissect more of the unknown as we dive into infamous demonic dolls who are the cause of our worst nightmares!A #sneakpeek on these two cases airs #Saturday May 31, 2025, anywhere you get your favorite #truecrimepodcast! #googlepodcasts #amazonpodcasts #applepodcasts #youtubepodcasts #patreon #rss #spotifypodcastsBONUS episodes are ONLY

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45:53

Episode 132: The Trunk Murderess

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/05/24

#crimechatwithnatandkat brings you this week's Episode 132: The Trunk Murderess! When Winnie McKinnell arrived at a train station with two trunks, no one would have guessed the horror inside. In 1931, when this "Trunk Murderess" was caught, she said she was attacked by two of her friends and she shot them in self defense. Winnie's attempts to hide the crime raised questions as the unraveling of this story went down as one of the most shocking crimes in history. Jealousy. Mental health issues

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81:16

Episode 131: Downfall of an Heir ~ A Crime &...

CrimeChat with Nat and Kat ·

2025/05/17

#crimechatwithnatandkat presents Episode 131: Downfall of an Heir ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment! Popularizing the term "make-up," Max Factor created an epic cosmetics company from the ground up! Nearly 100 years later, his great-grandson, Andrew Luster, was arrested for drugging and raping a 21-year-old college student. Further investigation revealed that Luster drugged multiple women with Liquid X, the date-rape drug GHB, sexually assaulted them, and recorded the assaults on video while his

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