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Recording Artists

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Artists in their own words from the Getty Research Institute archives

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I Thought It Was a Jewish Delicatessen (Bonus)

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2025/06/11

What do engineers get out of working with artists? In a series of talks designed to attract new engineers and artists to the group Experiments in Art and Technology (E.A.T.), engineers Fred Waldhauer and Robby Robbinson discuss how working with artists turned them from “aesthetic primitives” to true collaborators, even if they never quite fit in with the “arty crowd.” Hear how they approached their work in this bonus episode, featuring a longer clip from the archival

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4:45

It’s a Likely Threat (Bonus)

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2025/04/10

What makes good art good and what makes that experience stick with you? Engineer Billy Klüver, who co-founded the nonprofit group Experiments in Art and Technology, has a great answer to that question—but we couldn’t fit it in our third season. In this bonus episode, we’ll hear Klüver talk about discomfort, threats, and the power of good art. Stay tuned for more bonus episodes.

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4:04

Why Doesn’t He Dance a Little Better? (Bonus)

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2025/01/22

Did you know Robert Rauschenberg was fired by John Cage? Us either—until we heard Rauschenberg telling his side of the story to Barbara Rose in one of the interviews in Getty’s archives. We’re sharing clips from the archive as bonus episodes while you’re waiting on season four. In this first episode, you’ll hear Robert Rauschenberg explain how he stopped designing stage sets for the Merce Cunningham Dance Company all while gaining a better sense of his brusque yet

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20:06

Introducing ReCurrent: The Recipe of Us

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2024/12/10

Check out Getty’s newest podcast, ReCurrent, a series about what we gain by keeping the past present. In this inaugural episode, host and producer Jaime Roque shares a heartfelt journey through his family’s history and the role of food in preserving cultural heritage.Hear the rest of the series and learn more at getty.edu/recurrent. Look for it and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

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33:23

Robert Rauschenberg: A Very Small Club

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2024/10/08

Robert Rauschenberg is one of the best-known artists of the 20th century, in part because he never stopped exploring new mediums and styles. His work with new technology, however, is often overlooked. In 1960, a chance meeting with Bell Labs engineer Billy Klüver led them to eventually co-found Experiments in Art and Technology (E.A.T.), a nonprofit that paired artists with scientists and engineers to use the most cutting-edge new technologies. But E.A.T.’s projects were not always a

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29:42

Fujiko Nakaya: The Most Beautiful Way

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2024/10/08

Artist Fujiko Nakaya is best known for her ethereal sculptures made with fog. But her very first fog sculpture, which kicked off decades of working with this unusual and highly technical material, came about almost by chance—and thanks to her ties to Experiments in Art and Technology (E.A.T.). At 91, Nakaya is still making fog sculptures that compel audiences to consider the environment and our impact on it in new ways. In this third and final episode, we trace the development of

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30:03

Billy Klüver: Better Than Another Golf Course

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2024/10/08

Laser physicist Billy Klüver had always been interested in art. So when he started working at Bell Labs in New Jersey in the late 1950s, he began going into Manhattan and meeting artists—and in short order he was collaborating with them. He co-founded Experiments in Art and Technology (E.A.T.) to facilitate these partnerships and worked to find corporate sponsors, with mixed success. In this second episode of the season, we get to know Klüver’s role as a kind of translator

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2:37

Season 3—Experiments in Art and Technology

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2024/09/11

In season three of Recording Artists, artist and futurist Ahmed Best examines the groundbreaking art-science organization Experiments in Art and Technology (E.A.T.). Through the stories of E.A.T.’s co-founders, artist Robert Rauschenberg and Bell Labs engineer Billy Klüver, as well as artist Fujiko Nakaya, who continues to make technology-inflected artworks, this season investigates how artists and engineers collaborated to explore the creative potential of new technologies. Learn about

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47:39

Recording Artists Live

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2024/02/27

In this special live episode of Recording Artists, season two host Tess Taylor speaks with Getty Research Institute curator Pietro Rigolo about the making of the series, what she discovered through the letters, and artists’ stories and letters that didn’t make the cut.Author Maya Binyam joins them to bring the letters to life via dramatic readings. This program is co-presented with the Los Angeles Review of Books. The Getty Patron Program is a proud sponsor of this podcast. Learn more about the

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47:39

Recording Artists Live

Recording Artists ·

2024/02/27

In this special live episode of Recording Artists, season two host Tess Taylor speaks with Getty Research Institute curator Pietro Rigolo about the making of the series, what she discovered through the letters, and artists’ stories and letters that didn’t make the cut. Author Maya Binyam joins them to bring the letters to life via dramatic readings. This program is co-presented with the Los Angeles Review of Books. The Getty Patron Program is a proud sponsor of this podcast. Learn more

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47:39

Recording Artists Live

Recording Artists ·

2024/02/27

In this special live episode of Recording Artists, season two host Tess Taylor speaks with Getty Research Institute curator Pietro Rigolo about the making of the series, what she discovered through the letters, and artists’ stories and letters that didn’t make the cut. Author Maya Binyam joins them to bring the letters to life via dramatic readings. This program is co-presented with the Los Angeles Review of Books. The Getty Patron Program is a proud sponsor of this podcast. Learn more

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Meret Oppenheim: Femme Fatale Is an Insult

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2023/10/24

In 1975, Meret Oppenheim’s small painting Würgeengel, or Angel of Death, is included in a sprawling exhibition organized by famous curator Harald Szeemann. She had painted it over 40 years earlier, when she was only 16 years old. The only problem now is that the curator has totally misunderstood her artwork—and placed it in a sexist context in the show. Rather than meekly accept this, Oppenheim writes Szeemann a deeply personal letter. Across five pages, she details the challenges she faced as a

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37:40

Meret Oppenheim: Femme Fatale Is an Insult

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2023/10/24

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Nam June Paik: I Don’t Want to Be Over Whelmed by Glory

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2023/10/17

In the mid-1960s, Nam June Paik is living in a run-down studio in SoHo, struggling to make ends meet. But even as he jokes about his ongoing battle against cockroaches, he is building his network, seeking out support for his artist friends, and always experimenting with form. Paik’s vibrant personality is on full display in a letter from this period to musician David Tudor. Partially typewritten, partially handwritten, and full of wild punctuation and inside jokes, the letter’s main purpose is to

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Nam June Paik: I Don’t Want to Be Over Whelmed by Glory

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2023/10/17

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Benjamin Patterson: Full Moon, Warm, Silver Clouds

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2023/10/10

On May 20, 1962, the morning after his first child is born, Benjamin Patterson writes a touching birth announcement to his own parents. The letter covers all the usual details—the baby’s weight and height, how the birth went, what the hospital is like—but its form is totally unique. Most of the letter is written in the voice of his newborn son, Ennis. Patterson, then a young, struggling musician and composer living as an American expat in Paris, shows off his creativity and experimental writing in

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36:00

Benjamin Patterson: Full Moon, Warm, Silver Clouds

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2023/10/10

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37:53

M. C. Richards: I Am Dancing with These Words Around You

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2023/10/03

By 1956, M. C. Richards has earned a PhD in English, taught poetry at Black Mountain College, gotten married (and divorced) twice, dedicated herself to pottery, helped found an artists’ cooperative alongside creators like John Cage, and become deeply romantically involved with avant-garde musician David Tudor. Tudor is often on the road, but luckily Richards is an incredible letter-writer. In her notes to him, she plays with language and sends messages of love, all while keeping Tudor up to date on

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37:53

M. C. Richards: I Am Dancing with These Words Around You

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2023/10/03

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Frida Kahlo: Do You Think of Me Some Time?

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2023/09/26

In 1944, Frida Kahlo is at a crossroads, both in terms of her health and her career. In April of that year, with World War II dragging on, she writes to her gallerist—and former lover—Julien Levy. In this tender and personal letter, she moves from the logistical challenges of sending art across national borders during wartime, to describing her painful new steel corsets, to asking after her many friends in New York, where Levy lives. Unpacking this letter and exploring Kahlo’s words written in her

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