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Real Organic Podcast

Real Organic Project

Farmers interview scientists, activists, politicians, and authors engaged in protecting USDA organic food against an active corporate takeover. Real Organic Project released its add-on food label in stores and markets in 2021, and is focused on introducing eaters across the United States to our movement and its allies. In this podcast series, you"ll meet the best organic and regenerative farmers around, as well as journalists, climate experts, policy makers and chefs (Dr. Vandana Shiva, Paul Hawken,

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Jim Cochran: Growing Real Organic Strawberries in...

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2026/04/07

#271: Jim Cochran joins us to talk about a lifetime of growing organic strawberries in California and the movement that helped make that work possible. A pioneer of organic berry production, Cochran reflects on early side-by-side comparisons with conventional farming, the importance of flavor and customer trust, and the economic pressures facing real organic growers today. The conversation also explores farm labor, land access, water limits, and why hydroponic produce should not be allowed to borrow

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Omar Dieguez: My Hunger Strike Against Driscoll's...

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2026/03/31

#270: Omar Dieguez shares the story behind his 30 day hunger strike over Driscoll’s berries and the campaign to stop pesticides near schools in Watsonville, CA and the Pajaro Valley. From spray drift and youth organizing to farmworker exposure, Omar explains why he believes a handful of fields near local schools should be converted to organic. This is a unforgettable conversation about berries, power, and the communities asked to bear the cost of chemical

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68:18

JM Fortier At Farmer Friday: Growing Vegetables For...

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2026/03/24

#269: Recorded live at Real Organic Project’s Churchtown event, this Farmer Friday talk features JM Fortier in front of an audience of working farmers, sharing the systems and economics behind one of the best-known small-scale market gardens in North America. He discusses permanent raised beds, human-scale tools, greenhouse production, irrigation, labor, compost, and why pricing vegetables correctly is one of the most important parts of growing vegetables for profit. The result is a grounded,

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52:06

Bill McKibben: Here Comes the Sun for Farmers

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2026/03/17

#268: Bill McKibben discusses his new book, Here Comes the Sun, and the rapid rise of clean energy in a warming world. While much of the climate conversation focuses on damage and delay, McKibben argues that solar and wind have quietly become the cheapest energy sources on Earth, creating a real opening for change. Bill also mentions the promising field of solar power for farmers, including agrivoltaics, the land between rows of solar panels, and the ways it can support crop growth, pollinators, and

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64:57

StarWalker Organic Farm: Pasture Raised Organic Beef...

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2026/03/10

#267: What does it take to bring truly pasture-raised organic beef to market when the processing system is stacked against small and mid-sized farms? Jason and Kristina Walker of StarWalker Organic Farm join Linley to talk about raising cattle on pasture - and how they purchased their own USDA certified processing facility in northern California - turning a supply-chain problem into a model that could help other farmers scale regional organic meat

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68:53

Brisa Ranch: Small Farms As Distributors

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2026/03/03

#266: Three farmer-owners of Brisa Ranch lay out a practical answer to a big question: how can small farms survive in a marketplace built for consolidated buyers and consolidated distribution? Their approach is to become “small farms as distributors” by pairing production with aggregation, cold storage, sales, and last-mile delivery through the Coastside Local Food Hub in Pescadero, California. A Real Organic Project certified farm, Brisa Ranch manages about 120 acres and grows vegetables and fruit

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68:55

Maria Rodale: Family Lore And Organic Farming Trials

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2026/03/01

#265: Maria Rodale comes from one of the most influential families in American organic history; here she shares how her grandfather J.I. Rodale connected human health to the way food is grown and helped popularize organic through publishing. She also traces the practical takeaways behind (her dad Bob) Rodale's organic farming trials, launched in 1980, to test organic side by side with conventional systems as rigorously as possible. She explains why the work began as a “transition study,” what

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111:16

Allan Savory: Using Livestock To Reverse...

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2026/02/22

#264: What if some of the worst biodiversity loss and land degradation is happening inside protected national parks, even where there is no farming, mining, or fossil fuel extraction? Allan Savory, author of the new book "Unsavory: African Stories of Wildlife, War, and the Birth of Holistic Management," explains how we can use livestock to reverse desertification in these areas. He also makes the case for convincing governments and institutions to use a holistic decision making approach

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Barbara Damrosch: A Life In The Garden

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2026/02/15

#263: Barbara Damrosch's new book A Life In The Garden is a reminder that the best garden advice is practical: touch the soil, grow what you’ll eat, and keep learning season after season. Barbara shares stories with Dave from her lifetime of writing, filming a television show and farming alongside her husband Eliot Coleman.https://realorganicproject.org/barbara-damrosch-a-life-in-the-gardenThe Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley Dixon, engineered by Brandon StCyr, and

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106:15

Sally Fox: Organic Cotton Chemical Dyes

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2026/02/08

#262: Sally Fox explains why growing organic cotton can't be simplified to “skip pesticides.” She lays out the hard parts people rarely price in: weeds, labor, fertility, and what happens after the bale leaves the field. She also argues the sustainability story got narrowed to farming, while dye waste, processing impacts, and worker issues were pushed offstage.https://realorganicproject.org/sally-fox-organic-cotton-chemical-dyesThe Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave Chapman and Linley

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68:53

Max Goldberg: Threats to Organic - Hydroponics &...

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2026/02/01

#261: Organic Insider founder Max Goldberg unpacks the most urgent threats facing organic integrity today: the explosive growth of hydroponic “organic,” the quiet industry push to normalize gene-edited GMO 2.0, and the confusion and greenwashing surrounding the word "regenerative." Max also shares his thoughts on pesticide liability shields and the food-as-medicine movement, as well as why organic advocates need to shift their focus onto the next generation of eaters now, before it's

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Chuck Benbrook: Chemicals In Food DO Make People Sick

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2026/01/25

#260: Pesticide risk expert Chuck Benbrook returns for a clear examination of how chemical residues in food affect human health. This conversation responds directly to recent claims made on a popular medical podcast (The Checkup With Dr. Mike - linked below) that downplayed the risks of pesticide exposure and dismissed the benefits of organic food. Essential listening for anyone trying to cut through confusion, industry talking points, and oversimplified claims about food safety, and for anyone who

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Nancy Matsumoto: Women And Alternative Food Systems

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2026/01/21

#259: James Beard Award- winning author Nancy Matsumoto discusses her new book Reaping What She Sows : How Women Are Rebuilding Our Broken Food System. From grass-fed dairy farmers and Indigenous fishers to bakers reviving regional grains, Nancy shares stories of innovation, resilience, and community - and reveals the hidden work required to create short, transparent, local food chains that stand in stark contrast to Big

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Eliot Coleman on the Market Gardener Podcast

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2026/01/18

#258: What happens when one of today’s most influential market gardeners sits down with one of the founders of modern organic farming? JM Fortier interviews Eliot Coleman - author, farmer, and pioneer of soil-based organic agriculture. Their conversation explores the roots of market gardening, the central role of healthy soil, and why organic farming must remain grounded in ecological systems rather than industrial shortcuts.This episode originally aired on The Market Gardener Podcast and is

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114:35

Bob Scowcroft: A Carrot Caper Birthed The Organic Label

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2026/01/11

#257: Before the USDA organic seal existed, the movement was held together by trust, community… and the courage to confront fraud when it appeared. Bob Scowcroft, former executive director of CCOF and co-founder of OFRF, tells the inside story of the famous “carrot caper” - a scandal that forced the public, the press, and the state of California to take organic seriously. Bob also recalls the Alar apple crisis, Meryl Streep’s pivotal advocacy moment, the messy path toward unified standa...

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Will Brinton: Rethinking Carbon Sequestration - It's...

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2026/01/04

#256: Drawing on decades of soil respiration research, scientist Will Brinton explains why the most important action surrounding carbon sequestration isn’t simply in the soil - it’s the plant canopy that captures CO₂ the moment it’s released. Dr. Brinton returns to our show to discuss the failures of carbon-focused climate programs and a vision for organic farming rooted in diversity, continuous green cover, complex ecological design, and

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Deborah Koons Garcia: Future Of Food 20 Years Later

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2025/12/28

#255: Filmmaker Deborah Koons Garcia joins us, 20 years after the release of her influential documentary The Future of Food, to reflect on how the food system has changed - and how it hasn’t. Deborah shares her thoughts about GMOs, corporate control, regulatory capture, the rise of regenerative farming, and why she followed her GMO exposé with Symphony of the Soil, a film celebrating the beauty and complexity of living earth.https://realorganicproject.org/deborah-koons-garcia-future-of-food-255The

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67:54

Tom Philpott: Corporate Control And The Future Of Food

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2025/12/21

#254: Food systems journalist and author Tom Philpott joins Dave for a powerful discussion on the legacy of Joan Gussow, the myths driving industrial agriculture, and the political forces shaping what we eat. From nitrate pollution in the Corn Belt to the illusion of land-sparing yields, Philpott brings clarity to some of the most urgent questions facing our food system today.https://realorganicproject.org/tom-philpott-corporate-control-future-food-254The Real Organic Podcast is hosted by Dave

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Helen Atthowe: Living Pathways for Mulch, Fertility...

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2025/12/14

#253: Farmer, researcher, and author Helen Atthowe has spent 40 years building soil ecosystems that feed themselves while offering their own, living biologic controls In this conversation with Dave Chapman, she explains how living pathways - strips of cover crops and mulches between beds and orchard rows - can replace tillage, fertilizers, and pesticides. Drawing from her experiences with Masanobu Fukuoka, and her own long-term experiments in Montana and Oregon with her late husband farmer Carl

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Leonard Diggs: Building Community-Based Farms for the...

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2025/12/07

#253: Farmer, educator, and EcoFarm President Leonard Diggs joins Dave Chapman for a wide-ranging conversation about the evolution of organic agriculture, the legacy of EcoFarm, and the urgent need to move from commodity-based to community-based farming. From his formative years at UC Davis in the 1970s to his journey studying natural farming with Masanobu Fukuoka in Japan, Leonard shares a lifetime of lessons on soil care, collaboration, and resilience. He explains why true food security starts

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