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Feminine Chaos

Phoebe Maltz Bovy and Kat Rosenfield

Problematic faves, dissident feminism, and poodle interruptions: this is Feminine Chaos, featuring cultural commentary from Phoebe Maltz Bovy and Kat Rosenfield. femchaospod.substack.com

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54:01

The Sobriety Hour with Katie Herzog

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/10/02

Kat and Phoebe are joined by special guest Katie Herzog to discuss sobriety narratives, publishing journeys, and Katie’s new book, which you should all buy immediately.LINKS:Order Katie’s book here!No, seriously, did you order yet?Fresh, hot, FULLY NUDE self help right here, y’all.Read an excerpt from Katie’s book at The Free Press:Also mentioned:Kat’s piece on psychedelics: The Middle-Class Women Who Are Tripping BallsPhoebe on Ozempic, etc: Is Jewish dieting culture over? Reading ‘This is Big’ in

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10:35

Premium: The Perfect Woman Is a Man

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/09/26

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss the latest in attempted cancellations, the French first lady’s war on lying podcasters, and what fraction of the female population are Samanthas.LINKS:Kat’s new wilderness murder thriller is available for pre-order here!Required viewing!

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10:57

Premium: The Jawboning of an Ass

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/09/20

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss free speech, government interference, sociopathic clout-chasing, personal memoir, and accidental death-by-self-induced-whiplash.LINKS:Woody Allen on Life and Death - by Bari WeissYou can take the girl out ofWhat is jawboning? And does it violate the First Amendment? | The Foundation for Individual Rights and ExpressionBrendan Carr…

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10:14

Labubu Feminism and Other Forms of Violence

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/09/13

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe try to figure out what a Labubu is. Then: herbicidal maniacs, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and the death of all hope (but only for a moment.)LINKS:Whence Labubu Feminism: Did a Brooklyn Couple Kill a Neighbor’s Trees for a Better View in Maine? - The New York TimesThe Internet Locusts Descend on Ristretto Roasters

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54:22

The Lena Dunham Discussion Hour

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/09/11

Kat shares some exciting professional news, followed by Phoebe’s latest dispatch from Dead Rodent Central aka Toronto proper. Then: what do we both think about the Lena Dunham zeitgeist and the new Netflix series Too Much?LINKS:See Kat’s new book cover in People magazine and preorder HOW TO SURVIVE IN THE WOODS!Also, Chicagoans can see Kat in real life at the Substack debate on Sex and AI — there are very few tickets left, get them here.Phoebe on Too Much: Not that kind of nebbish: a review of new

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9:55

Premium: My Genes Are Wilder

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/08/18

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss a certain comedienne's May-December relationship that was (or, possibly, wasn't), the forever war over Sydney Sweeney's genes, and whether anti-woke signaling as advertising strategy is a terrible mistake, or just a happy little accident.LINKS:Kat on the Sydney Sweeney debacle: Hot Girl Wears Denim, Fourth Reich ImminentNick Asbur…

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55:25

If You're Seeing This, It's Not You, It's Me

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/08/10

Kat and Phoebe welcome special guest Leigh Stein for a discussion of female heterosexual rejection, gothic age gap relationships, and crying on TikTok in the attention economy.LINKS:Leigh's new book, If You're Seeing This It's Meant for You, releases August 26! Order it here to get the bonus gift of cool limited-edition tarot card stickers:If You're Seeing This, It's Meant for You by Leigh Stein | Madison Street BooksOr on Amazon if you're basic:If You're Seeing This, It's Meant for You: A Novel

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9:55

Premium: Canadian Affirmation

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/08/01

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss Canadian sex trials and American teen models. LINKS:Submit your AMA questions here!Straight outta Canadian courtrooms:

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11:13

Premium: Revenge Is a Dish Best Served Coldplayed

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/07/23

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss the latest in "heterofatalism", how to write about heterosexuality without oversharing about your sex life, and the viral jumbotron sex scandal with shades of the 1990s-era L'Affaire Bobbitt.LINKS:She tried an open marriage: Scenes from an Open MarriageIt didn't work out: The Trouble With Wanting Men - The New York TimesKat tweete…

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10:17

Premium: White Supremacy Is Stored in the Abs

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/07/18

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss pretty princesses, culturally appropriative restaurants, and how incredibly hot Donald Trump would look doing pilates.LINKS:

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10:36

Premium: Members, Memoirs, Mamdani

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/07/11

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss a new memoir by a self-described nepo baby, the locker room norms that place modesty downstream of anatomy, and the scandalous college box-checking of one NYC mayoral candidate.LINKS:Phoebe's review: The art monster's daughter: Molly Jong-Fast's new memoir pans Erica Jong's parentingKat on the angle of the dangle: On evolutionary …

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61:07

Like a Lesbian Virgin

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/07/07

Early access for paid subscribers! Kat and Phoebe discuss lowkey "choice" lesbians, being a "kid" in your mid-20s (and beyond), and the various and sundry meanings of "virgin."LINKS:Lowkey, I Chose To Be a Lesbian | AutostraddleWe Messed Up | AutostraddleSo-called “ex-gay” causes controversy – Chicago Maroon This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit femchaospod.substack.com/subscribe

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12:14

Premium: Where Have All The Cowboys Gone

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/06/24

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss our alleged mass epidemic of missing, or at least absent, men, and the women who love them (except: do they, though?) Also: settling, compromise, and a debate over how to properly dispense with a contaminated toaster.LINKS:Men, Where Have You Gone? Please Come Back. - The New York TimesAmerican Women Are Giving Up on Marriage - WSJ

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9:16

Premium: The Quiet Part Loud

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/06/20

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss the new film Materialists and marrying rich, the O.G. (and long-lived) Jewish sitcom The Goldbergs, the difference between Dakota Fanning and Dakota Johnson, whether “nepo baby” is a slur, and the eggshells upon which artists may or may not have walked/ be currently walking/ will continue to walk in the future.LINKS:Can Any Woman …

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9:55

Premium: Tantric Sex Squirrels

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/06/12

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss intimacy coordinators, rodent men, and the mechanism whereby certain left-wing things begat a certain orange man.LINKS:The Real Reason Actresses Are Rejecting Intimacy CoordinatorsThe mechanismAre Liberals to Blame for the New McCarthyism? - The AtlanticOpinion | I Don’t Want to Watch Slavery Fan Fiction - The New York Times

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59:45

Harassment Machines and Peony Vandals

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/06/08

Early access for premium subscribers! Kat and Phoebe discuss a straight lady court victory, a puckish (and very symmetrical) student journalist, and a grotesque act of botanical sabotage.Links:Supreme Court Unanimously Rules for Straight Woman in Workplace Discrimination SuitStraight out of DOGEA Student at Brown Channeled Elon Musk. Then He Got in Trouble.How to become a right-wing star? Harass peopleCarnage: This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get

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14:54

Premium: Tummy Tucks for White Supremacy and the...

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/05/28

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss the state of Anne Hathaway's eyebrows, the downsides of celebrity, the end of diet culture, and the MeTooing of a certain journalist. (Hashtag MeToo, hashtag BLM!)Links:The bad Anne Hathaway take, archived for your pleasure: https://archive.is/1lUm5Phoebe on Anne's detractor: Envy-pityAnd on Wesley Lowery: ObjectivesJournalists At…

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10:23

Premium: Women's Spaces

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/05/22

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss what's right about built-in bookshelves, what's wrong with water aerobics, what's for sale on OnlyFans, and the time one of us sent nudes by carrier pigeon.LINKS:The built-in bookshelf of Phoebe's dreams:(via: The Group Behind Project 2025 Has a Plan to Crush the Pro-Palestinian Movement)No-cis-men, no-sleep-deprivation dance part…

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11:46

Premium: Up All Night On Ozempic

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/05/15

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit femchaospod.substack.comKat and Phoebe discuss the Ozempification of the populace and the traumatic sleepovers of our respective youths. Also, raccoons.Links:I Speak From Experience When I Say: Weight-Loss Drugs Give Women Freedom.The Parental Safetyism Arms Race - Cartoons Hate Her

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60:55

Beauty and the Beast

Feminine Chaos ·

2025/05/09

Kat and Phoebe discuss the Met Gala, one man's polarizing torso, and the legacy of the MeToo movement now that its chief villain is back on trial.Early access for premium subscribers.LINKS:The tweet that launched a thousand 'I prefer a dad bod' sentiments: https://x.com/CostelloWilliam/status/1914860472723005446Cartoons Hate Her makes the case for chiseled: Phoebe pored over some torsos so you don't have to: Kat on the surprising-but-not GOP pro-Weinstein moment: As promised: This is a public

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