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Relationscapes: Exploring How We Relate, Love, and Belong

How do we learn to love, relate, and belong in a changing world? Relationscapes brings award-winning journalist Blair Hodges into conversation with today’s most insightful writers and thinkers to explore relationships, gender, sexuality, race, ability, and culture—with ideas that inspire deeper connection and a more humane life.

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75:45

Tumbling Through the Mother-Daughter Multiverse (with...

Relationscapes: Exploring How We Relate, Love, and... ·

2026/03/17

If you lost touch with reality, how would you even tell the difference?That's the question Sarah Labrie confronts after her mother was found on the side of a Houston freeway in the midst of a schizophrenic break, along with the question, "Am I next?" In this deeply candid conversation, Sarah discusses growing up between extremes of adoration and abuse, witnessing a parent’s mental illness, struggling with perfectionism, and looking for healthy relationships, until the weight of her own artistic

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69:00

How Dogs Domesticated Humans (with Laura Hobgood)

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2026/03/10

Dogs didn’t just become our companions. They helped make us human.They've been by our side for tens of thousands of years, helping us herd and hunt, migrate, heal, grieve, fight war, imagine the afterlife, and more. Religion and environmental studies scholar Laura Hobgood joins us to explore the long, complicated co-evolution of humans and dogs—how humans have loved, used, protected, and sometimes harmed them in return. Her book is called A Dog’s History of the World: Canines and the

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39:13

MINI EPISODE: What a Good Boy, with Steven Page

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2026/03/03

Some songs take decades to reveal what they’re really about.Back in the 90s when 20-year-old Steven Page wrote “What a Good Boy,” he understood it as a plea to ease up on restrictive gender expectations that harmed boys and girls. But as he performed it over the years, he realized it was about much more than that. The stirring anthem has become a greater exploration of gender identity and sexuality, a perennial wrestle against a binary world's hostility to people who don't fit the mold—trans,

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68:00

Recovering Queer Black History for Everybody (with...

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2026/02/17

When George M. Johnson was a kid growing up in New Jersey, they loved Black History Month. They were thrilled to learn about the people who shaped American history for the better. But as they got older, they started noticing things were missing—hidden stories that might have meant the most to a queer kid like they were.George was especially drawn to one of the most dazzling moments in Black history, the Harlem Renaissance. They went searching for what had been covered up, forgotten, or erased,

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69:30

Raising Feminist Boys in a Patriarchal World (with...

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2026/02/10

Is it possible to raise kind, feminist boys in our era of manosphere misogyny?Sonora Jha, an Indian-American immigrant and single mother, says yes. But it takes a lot more than good intentions. She reflects on raising her son across cultures, teaching empathy through film, talking frankly about sex, consent, and body image, and modeling apology without demanding forgiveness. She pushes back on the idea that feminism harms boys, showing how it can actually free them from shame, silence, and

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78:32

How Birth Mothers are Paying the Hidden Costs of...

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2026/02/03

Adoption is often framed as a loving and selfless decision made by women who want to give their babies a better life—but many relinquishing mothers say it doesn’t actually feel like a real choice at all.Private domestic adoption in the U.S. operates under conditions of high demand, limited supply, and deep economic inequality. Researchers say women rarely choose adoption over abortion or parenting, and many relinquishing parents report long-term trauma. Sociologist Gretchen Sisson draws on a

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49:49

MINI EPISODE: And It's Only January (with Andrea Pitzer)

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2026/01/20

We’re a little over halfway through January and already it's been...well, a lot. The Trump administration kidnapped the de facto Venezuelan president. The chairman of the Federal Reserve announced he’s being targeted for prosecution because the president wants to control monetary policy. A queer mother in Minneapolis was shot in the head in broad daylight by ICE, who is occupying the city, and the government has been trying to portray her as a terrorist. And etc.Andrea Pitzer is one of my

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67:05

The Growing Perils of Pregnancy in America (with Irin...

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2026/01/13

The overturning of Roe v. Wade, which allowed states to outlaw abortion, has had devastating consequences for women across the country—especially because the American health care system was already making pregnancy more dangerous and more unequal in blue states and red states alike.In her new book Unbearable, journalist Irin Carmon tells the stories of five women whose experiences uncover the realities of pregnancy in America: infertility, abortion, miscarriage, criminalization, racial

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72:53

How a Year Without Sex Changed Everything (with...

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2026/01/06

What happens when you stop chasing romantic love entirely?After ending a catastrophic relationship, acclaimed author Melissa Febos took an unexpected step: despite being a serial relationshipper, she decided to take a personal vow of celibacy. What began as a three-month break became a full year that transformed how she understood desire, boundaries, people-pleasing, and love itself. In her latest book The Dry Season: A Memoir of Pleasure in a Year Without Sex, Febos reflects on addiction-like

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68:29

The Incredible Brain Science About Sex and Gender...

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2025/12/16

We grow up swimming in gender stereotypes: men are from Mars, women are from Venus. Men are rational and women are emotional. The binary cliches are everywhere, but are they true?Daphna Joel is a neuroscientist who wanted to know what the science actually says. When she looked at real brains she discovered that each person carries a unique mix of traits, a true mosaic that defies the old binary. Daphna Joel joins us to talk about her groundbreaking book Gender Mosaic: Beyond the Myth of the Male

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94:12

What the Bible REALLY Says about Abortion, Being Gay,...

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2025/12/09

The Bible remains one of the world's most influential books, impacting believers and non-believers alike. As Christian nationalists gain more power over American politics right now, it's as important as ever to understand how the Bible is used to justify laws about abortion, gay marriage, child abuse, and more. Luckily, Bible scholar Dan McClellan is here to give us the data. He's become wildly famous on TikTok unpacking what the Bible really says about these contentious issues, and many more

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32:13

MINI EPISODE: Keeping Schools Safe from Moms for...

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2025/12/02

The Department of Education is being dismantled before our eyes. Why does it matter, and can it be rescued? Reporter Laura Pappano joins us with updates on these things, and her latest visit to the Moms for Liberty conference in Florida, where a new tactic is emerging. Full transcript is available here at relationscapes.org. Show Notes "Moms for quote-unquote 'Liberty,' (with Laura Pappano)," Relationscapes (September 2, 2025) Relationscapes, "How Children's Rights Impact Everyone (with Adam

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69:09

Born Against the Law (with Shen Yang)

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2025/11/18

Shen Yang broke the law simply by being born. It was the 1980s in China, and according to the One Child Policy, her parents weren't allowed to have her. They sent her away with relatives, and what followed were years of cruelty and neglect, but also defiance and the will to thrive.It's hard to find stories directly from excess children. Shen Yang's book is a rare gem. It's called More Than One Child: Memoirs of an Illegal Daughter. She joins us to talk about it in this episode. Full transcript

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76:15

The Wisdom and Power of Teenage Girls (with Chelsey...

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2025/11/11

Chelsey Goodan says that for too long, teenage girls have been undervalued and overlooked. As a longtime tutor and mentor to hundreds of girls from many different backgrounds, Chelsey realized why so many were anxious and hurting. Because too many people treat teenage girls as problems to be controlled or solved. Chelsey says they have much to offer on topics like perfectionism, friendship, identity, shame, power, and more. Whether you’re a parent, teacher, mentor, or just curious, this

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81:57

How to Support Trans Youth (with Ben V. Greene)

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2025/11/04

What does real support for trans kids look like in this fraught political moment? Ben V. Greene audaciously but persuasively suggests we try a joy-centered approach.Greene explains what parents and other loved ones can do when they’re uncertain about how to be there for trans kids, and why curiosity and compassion—not being perfect—makes all the difference. Green also explores what affirming therapy really is (and isn’t), how belonging improves mental health, and why love and understanding—not

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71:15

Surviving the "Cure" of Conversion Therapy (with...

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2025/10/28

He was told he was broken. He was promised a cure. It was all a lie. Lucas Wilson, author of Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors' Stories of Conversion Therapy, takes us inside the real experiences of queer people forced to try and change their so-called "same-sex attraction." Lucas shares both his own story and those of survivors, revealing the psychological, moral, and spiritual harms of conversion therapy. He also explains why stories, not just statistics, are the most powerful way to confront the

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45:30

MINI EPISODE: How More Young Women Are Hitting the...

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2025/10/21

Here's a frightening statistic: More young women age 18 to 29 voted for Donald Trump in 2024 than in 2016 or 2020. Why? Jess Britvich argues that TikTok and Instagram have been moving some young women rightward, without making it obvious. Trends like clean beauty, natural living, tradwife aesthetics, or even yoga and wellness communities might look harmless on the surface—but many of them are pipelines to right-wing politics. The former social worker and content creator Jess Britvich

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81:17

Kids or No Kids? Rethinking Parenthood in Uncertain...

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2025/10/14

Who would choose to bring children into today’s world? Between climate change, economic strain, political conflict, and growing uncertainty about the future, more people today say they feel uncertain about parenthood, especially progressive people. Philosophers Anastasia Berg and Rachel Wiseman—authors of What Are Children For?—explore the personal, political, and philosophical stakes of having kids. From the tedium and vulnerability of early parenting to the profound meaning and joy it

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71:06

Turning the Tables on Fatphobia (with Kate Manne)

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2025/10/07

Fatphobia is everywhere. It affects how we judge ourselves and each other. In this episode, philosopher Kate Manne exposes the social, ethical, and health-based consequences of anti-fat bias.Drawing on personal experience and sharp cultural analysis, Manne challenges dieting myths, weight-loss fads, and societal pressure to be thin. She invites us to practice “body reflexivity,” the radical idea that our bodies exist for ourselves, not merely for others. She explains why physical

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66:25

Back to the Feminist Drawing Board (with Aubrey Hirsch)

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2025/09/30

Like a lot of American women, Aubrey Hirsch grew up trying to channel her own rage into other emotions. Maybe she wasn't mad, she was really jealous. Maybe she wasn't pissed off, she was actually sad. Eventually, Aubrey realized she had been suppressing something vital. Sometimes being angry is the main thing she should be. Instead of always running from her outrage, now she channels it into informative, funny, sometimes furious feminist comics.Aubrey joins us to talk about how she uses

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