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Shallow

Phoebe Whittle & Lucy Bell

Join us as we dive into the topics that keep us talking long after the group chat goes quiet.Each episode, your hosts Lucy Bell and Phoebe Whittle (two friends - yes, groundbreaking!) start in the shallow end, before deep-diving into the topic of the week.We hand-pick each subject, from our obsession with beauty and wellness trends to navigating ambition and careers, these are the conversations filling our WhatsApp inboxes and flooding our social media feeds.We’re here to break down pop culture

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39:38

Ep 32. A Baby? In This Economy?!

Shallow ·

2025/11/25

The Shallow Take? Having a baby is just what adults do… right?Except in 2025, starting a family feels less like a life milestone and more like a luxury purchase. With the rising cost of living, climate anxiety, housing insecurity, and childcare prices that rival a second rent, the decision to have kids isn’t just emotional anymore — it’s financial.In this episode, we unpack why becoming a parent feels so out of reach for so many. Is choosing not to have children a true personal choice… or a choice

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47:08

Ep 31. In Conversation with Trisha Avery

Shallow ·

2025/11/11

Oh, we are so back.Season 4 is officially here(!!!) and we’re kicking things off with someone very special.The moment we met Trisha Avery, we knew she had to open the season. Her story is powerful, unfiltered, and completely captivating, so we threw our usual structure out the window and just talked.In this episode, we dive into feminism, endometriosis, identity, womanhood, and what it really means to live loud in a world that still tells women to shrink.It’s real, raw, and the perfect way to start

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31:22

Bonus Episode: The Life of a Showgirl Album Review

Shallow ·

2025/10/08

Nobody asked, but we had to. Welcome to The Life of a Showgirl album review... a dive into one of the most talked-about pop releases of the year.We break down how The Life of a Showgirl was marketed, the online backlash and praise, and the cultural conversation it sparked. Was it overhyped? Underrated? And most importantly... is it actually that deep?Shallow Socials!InstagramTikTok Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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33:57

Ep 30. Be Quiet, Woman!

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2025/09/17

The Shallow Take? Internalised misogyny isn’t that deep… right?You’ve heard the jokes...“I’m not like other girls,”“She’s too emotional,”“Girls are just so dramatic.”But what if the punchline is actually the problem?This week on Shallow, we’re diving into the subtle, everyday ways internalised misogyny shows up in our thoughts, our words, and how we treat other women — often without even realising it.We’re talking about the messages we’ve absorbed since day one: that femininity is weakness, that

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43:41

Ep 29. Underconsumption with Ashleigh Cameron

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2025/09/10

The Shallow Take? Overconsumption is out, and underconsumption might finally be in.After years of shopping hauls, fast fashion, and feeling like every outfit needs to be worthy of the gram', are we finally done with buying stuff we don’t need?This week on Shallow, we’re joined by fashion writer and industry expert Ashleigh Cameron to talk about why less might really be more. From falling back in love with your wardrobe to challenging the constant pressure to consume, we’re asking:– Is 2025 the year

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45:45

Ep 28. Will I Have A Better Life If I'm Hot?

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2025/09/03

The Shallow Take? Looking good is a fast track to success.But is pretty privilege actually real, or just another way we justify chasing impossible beauty standards?In this episode of Shallow, we’re diving into the link between appearance and opportunity. Does looking your best really make you more productive? Can being attractive open doors in work, dating, and life? Or… are we just stuck in a loop of performative self-improvement?We’re asking whether beauty really equals power... or if it’s all

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46:49

Ep 27. Reality TV with Lottie Somers

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2025/08/27

The Shallow Take? Reality TV is the ultimate guilty pleasure.Fake fights, mystery “sources,” chaotic edits, we know it’s not real, but we still can’t stop watching. From Made in Chelsea to Real Housewives to Keeping Up with the Kardashians, the past decade has been a binge-worthy mess… and we’ve loved every second.But is it all harmless drama? Or has reality TV helped fuel a culture obsessed with beauty, fame, and clout?This week, we’re joined by the oracle of reality TV herself, Lottie Somers, to

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38:54

Ep 26. Only Fans: Is The Price Tag Worth The Payout?...

Shallow ·

2025/08/20

The Shallow Take? OnlyFans is rebranding exploitation as liberation.But is it really that simple?In this episode, we’re diving into the world of OnlyFans... The platform often painted as either empowering or exploitative, depending on who you ask.Critics say it profits off women’s bodies, feeds the male gaze, and reinforces toxic beauty standards. But for some creators, it’s a space for autonomy, agency, and serious income. So... is OnlyFans giving women power, or just another system built by men,

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31:58

Ep 25. OnlyFans Is The Price Tag Worth The Payout?...

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2025/08/13

The Shallow Take? OnlyFans is where people take their clothes off for cash.But what if it’s actually rewriting the rules around sex, money, and women’s control? For some creators, it’s not just about content - it’s about power. A platform where women set their own terms, own their audience, and keep the profits.In this episode, we’re unpacking how OnlyFans works, why it’s become a cultural lightning rod, and whether it’s actually a feminist revolution… or just capitalism in a cuter outfit.This is

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38:30

Ep 24. 'I Went Sober For A Year' - Was It Really That...

Shallow ·

2025/08/06

The Shallow Take? Going sober is the obvious healthy choice… but is it actually that deep?This week on Shallow, we’re picking up where our sober-curious deep dive left off, with a real-life test.We’re joined by our friend Jordan Fores-Higgens, who gave up alcohol for an entire year leading up to her 30th birthday.No cocktails, no “just one" - A full year, booze-free.So… did it change her life? Was it a glow-up, a wake-up, or just another wellness trend dressed in clean-girl aesthetics?We’re talking

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40:57

Ep 23. The Fashion Industry with Christine Lindebak

Shallow ·

2025/07/30

The Shallow Take: Fashion is frivolous.This week on Shallow, we’re joined by designer and entrepreneur Christine Lindebak (founder of Sewing in the City) to talk about what really goes on behind the scenes of the fashion industry.From self-expression to identity, politics to power, fashion shapes how we see ourselves and how we’re seen. But behind the glamour is a different story: global supply chains, labour conditions, sustainability, and the high cost of “cheap” clothes.Christine shares her

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54:05

Ep 22. Shallow Book Club: ACOTAR

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2025/07/23

Shallow Book Club kicks off with a romantasy giant - Sarah J. Maas’s A Court of Thorns and Roses.We’re diving headfirst into the fae-filled world of ACOTAR: from plot twists and politics to wingspans and spice levels. Whether you’re deep in the Night Court or just curious about the hype, this is your all-access guide to the series that defined a genre.Perfect for fans of romantasy, faerie smut, and strong female leads.🎧 Hit play and join the club.Shallow Socials!InstagramTikTok Hosted on Acast. See

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38:30

Ep. 21 Do Celebs Owe Us The Truth About Plastic Surgery?

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2025/07/16

The Shallow Take: Celebs are lying about plastic surgery.In a world where beauty is currency, what happens when the people setting the standard won’t admit they’ve had a little work done? Are celebrities protecting their right to privacy, or selling an impossible ideal the rest of us can’t afford to chase?This week on Shallow, we’re asking:Do celebs owe us honesty about plastic surgery, and when beauty becomes business, does silence become strategy?We unpack the grey area between personal choice and

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34:30

Ep 20. Its Not Me, It's U.K

Shallow ·

2025/06/11

The Shallow Take: We're catching flights, not feelings ✈️To close out Season 2, we’re talking about the big one: moving abroad. Whether it’s chasing the sun, starting over, or escaping the grind, the idea of packing up your life and heading somewhere new is more popular than ever (thanks, TikTok!).It’s easy to believe the grass is always greener somewhere sunnier. But what’s it really like? To zoom in on the UK to Aus move (it's what we know) we’ll be diving into the dream versus the reality of

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31:43

Ep 19. Are We All Dressing The Same?

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2025/06/04

The Shallow Take: We’re all dressing the same.From that Uniqlo bag to white socks and loafers… is the algorithm dressing us?With TikTok trends and Pinterest-core aesthetics leading the charge, has personal style become harder to curate?We’re diving into the death of individuality, revisiting fashion eras from owl pendants to indie sleaze and bandage dresses.Was everyone dressing the same before Instagram? Or is it just not that deep?Let’s dive in 💦InstagramTikTokYoutube Hosted on Acast. See

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37:19

Ep. 18 The Pill x Bethan Walters

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2025/05/28

The Shallow Take: The pill is just a contraceptive…In our very first guest episode (!!), we’re joined by menstrual health advocate @bethanwalters to unpack the real story behind the pill.We’ve been prescribed it young, for cramps, acne, “regulating” our cycles - often without questioning what it’s really doing in our bodies. So is it even about preventing pregnancy anymore? Have we normalised taking hormonal birth control without understanding the impact?We talk period pain, medical gaslighting, and

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34:23

Ep 17. The Glow-Up

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2025/05/21

The Shallow Take: What's the harm in self-improvement?This week, we’re talking about the glow-up trend. Those before-and-after videos flooding our feeds with beauty tips, routines and transformations. Some of it’s inspiring, sure. But a lot of it? Kind of exhausting.We’re asking: when does self-improvement go too far? Are we really becoming the best version of ourselves - or just chasing a re-packaged version of the same beauty standards?Let’s dive in.Shallow Socials!InstagramTikTokYouTube Hosted

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37:11

Ep 16. Friendship Break-Ups

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2025/05/14

The Shallow Take: Your friendship group only gets smallerWe all know the playbook for romantic breakups, but what happens when a friendship feels “over”? Do we face it head-on or let it fizzle out?A serious sit-down conversation might feel childish, ghosting could do more harm than good... or maybe it’s just not that deep. This week, we’re unpacking the messy world of friendship breakups, why they happen, how to handle them, and if they deserve the same attention as romantic ones.Let’s dive

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32:28

Ep 15. Who's Bringing Skinny Back?

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2025/05/07

Is thin back in... or is it just not that deep? 🙃We unpack the rise of Ozempic and ask: should celebs be honest about using it?From the Kardashians quietly shedding their signature curves to a full-blown return of '90s and 2000s skinny-era fashion, we trace the cultural shift that’s bringing “thin” back into style. Plus: a rewind to heroin chic, that Met Gala moment, and why we’re f*cking tired of women’s bodies being treated like trend cycles. We dive in!Shallow Socials!InstagramTikTok Hosted on

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35:26

Ep 14. I cant, I'm busy...

Shallow ·

2025/04/30

Sorry, I can't. I'm busy!In this episode we dive into the grind of hustle culture - from working multiple jobs to stay afloat, to the constant pressure to do MORE. Is being busy a badge of honour or a sign of something more broken beneath the surface?Shallow Socials!InstagramTikTok Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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