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SCamp Life: The Other Side

A bi-weekly look at big picture questions, concerns, and sometimes unpopular opinions in the summer camp industry in hopes of stimulating well rounded conversations among camp teams.

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Episode 46: The Night the River Rose

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2025/12/18

Trigger Warnings: Child death, drowning, religious trauma.This episode investigates the deadly overnight flood at Camp Mystic in Kerr County, Texas. We break down the events leading up to the tragedy, the emergency failures that left campers vulnerable, and the long-standing flood-warning and safety gaps that contributed to the loss of life. Drawing on verified reporting, survivor accounts, and public records, we examine what went wrong — and what must change to protect young people in the

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New Season, Who dis?

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2025/10/21

Kelie and Shauna are back behind the mic for a brand-new season of SCampLife: The Other Side! In this opening episode, the duo catch up after a whirlwind summer—swapping stories, sharing lessons learned, and laughing through the highs (and the chaos) of camp life. Plus, Kelie drops a big announcement you won’t want to miss!

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47:12

Episode 44: Tri-State Tales & Tangents

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2025/05/20

Kelie is back from the American Camp Association Tri-State Conference, and she’s bringing all the energy (and a few unexpected side quests) to this episode! Join Kelie and Shauna as they dive into Kelie’s favorite sessions, biggest takeaways, and ideas that camp professionals won’t want to miss. Of course, it wouldn’t be The Other Side without a few classic “Squirrel!” moments—because when camp people talk, things are bound to get a little off-trail.

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Episode 43: Camp Counsel (But Not That Kind)

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2025/03/05

Hosts Kelie and Shauna break down how executive orders, local laws, and policy changes could impact the camp industry. From staffing regulations to funding shifts, they explore what camp professionals need to know—without the legal jargon. But let’s be clear: they’re not lawyers, and this isn’t legal advice—just two camp pros with microphones trying to make sense of the rules that shape our summers.LINKSExecutive OrdersAfter School and Summer Learning ProgramsRemoval of DEI Language and

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01:02:53

Episode 42: Building Neurodiverse Teams: ADHD as a...

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2025/02/19

In this episode, hosts Kelie and Shauna continue the conversation on embracing ADHD in camp leadership with special guests Travis Allison (GoCampPro) and Kate Taylor (Camp Industry Consultant). This is Part 2 of our discussion—catch Part 1 over on Camp Hacker!We dive into ADHD as a superpower in the camp world, how to recognize ADHD in your staff, practical tools to support neurodivergent team members, and share personal stories of navigating camp life with ADHD. Whether you have ADHD, work with

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01:23:07

Episode 41: Behavior Policies Aren’t Just for...

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2025/02/06

Policies and procedures aren’t just for campers—they apply to caregivers too! In this episode, Kelie and Shauna welcome back Emily Golinsky of Bright Moose Training to dive into the world of behavior policies and procedures for both campers and their grown-ups. They break down the difference between a policy and a procedure, discuss when to be flexible, and explore how to balance empathy for upset caregivers while maintaining boundaries and respect for staff. Whether you’re a camp pro, educator, or

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01:20:10

Episode 40: Behind the Scenes of Camp Management

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2025/01/22

In this episode, Shauna is out with the flu, so Kelie takes the lead and sits down with Dr. Chad Nelson to dive into the fascinating history and ever-changing industry of summer camp. They tackle the big question—is camp a real job?—and share invaluable advice for current, veteran, and new camp managers and directors. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just starting out, this episode is packed with insights and inspiration to help you thrive in the camp industry!LINKSDr. Chad Nelson Bio and Contact

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47:13

Episode 39: It’s Camper Registration Season!

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2025/01/07

It’s camper registration season! What are parents and caregivers looking for in a camp? Who makes the final decision about which camp to attend? How much communication is too much communication? Kelie and Shauna chat with Courtney Russell, camp parent, to answer all of your burning questions. Listen in as Courtney dishes the downlow on camp choices and Shauna goes on a soapbox about providing as much information as you can to the camp director.

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47:19

Episode 38: Little Ways to Appreciate Your Staff...

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2024/11/20

It’s almost hiring season and to save future you some time, so Kelie and Shauna have staff on their mind. In this episode, our hosts share the ways they like to show appreciation to their staff and also share how it builds their staff culture. Kelie and Shauna also share how they implement these staff moments so they are easy to duplicate at your camp!Show Notes

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51:40

Episode 37: We Asked, You Submitted! Time for Camp...

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2024/10/23

In this fun and revealing episode, Kelie and Shauna dive into the hilarious and sometimes shocking, shared by listeners, "Counselor Confessions." From pranks gone wrong to heartwarming moments with campers, current and former counselors spill their best-kept camp secrets, offering a behind-the-scenes look at the antics of camp counselor life.LINKSBissli BBQBetter Camping for All Institute2024 ACA Staffing SummitTo Our Reddit Hater

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01:08:05

Episode 36: Our 2024 Summer Recap

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2024/09/29

Kelie and Shauna ARE BACK! In this episode, they recap their AMAZING summers and absolutely GUSH about their 2024 Staff. Shauna shares the celebrity children she had as campers and Kelie finally has a great summer after last year’s fiasco of a season.Full Show Notes

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Ep 35: Understanding Bullying vs. Conflict with Emily...

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2024/05/09

In this episode, Kelie and Shauna are joined by Emily Golinsky from Bright Moose Training to discuss the crucial differences between bullying and conflict in youth programs, camps, and schools. Emily shares insights on how to recognize the signs of both, strategies for prevention, and handling conflicts effectively. The conversation explores real-world applications of these strategies, the importance of educating staff and parents, and the role of restorative practices in resolving conflicts. The

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Ep 34: Elevating Staff Training at Camp

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2024/04/25

This episode dives into the transformative approaches Kelie and Shauna are implementing for staff training at their respective camps. From reinventing traditional methods to integrating dynamic activities. The conversation reflects on past experiences, anticipates future challenges, and explores strategies to enhance the camp experience for both staff and campers, highlighting the importance of adaptability, engagement, and fun in staff development.Want to add to our conversation? Have a question

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59:29

SCP 204: Magazine Style #11

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2024/04/19

In this episode, Curt and Chris discuss a wide variety of topics for summer camps. This is their 11th magazine edition. This episode includes a special event idea, program idea, staff idea, some trivia questions, theme ideas, and more.

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Ep 33: Lights, Camera, Campfire - Camp in Media

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2024/04/04

Kelie and Shauna explore the portrayal of camp in movies, TV shows, and documentaries, touching on both fiction and non-fiction. They discuss the accuracy and cultural impact of camp-themed media, sharing their personal experiences and critical perspectives as camp professionals. The episode highlights a variety of titles, including 'Camp Nowhere', 'Heavyweights', 'The Parent Trap', and 'Bug Juice', alongside discussions on the darker aspects of camp portrayals such as in 'Hell Camp'.Want to add to

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Ep 32: Insights and Takeaways from Tri-State Camp...

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2024/03/21

Kelie and Shauna discuss their recent experiences and key takeaways from the ACA Tri-State Camp Conference. They touch on their busy travel schedules, staffing updates, and a variety of sessions attended at the conference. Highlights include discussions on staff recruitment, dealing with camper and staff behavior, the importance of respect over hierarchy, and innovative ideas for camp traditions and staff training. They also mention valuable resources like Project Real Job's TikTok and the Greetings

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Ep 31: Exploring Camp Traditions: A Rapid Fire...

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2024/03/06

Hosts Kelie and Shauna, after a series of serious episodes, decide to lighten the mood by introducing a fun, rapid-fire segment focused on camp traditions. Utilizing a wheel to randomize selections, they explore their experiences and thoughts on a variety of camp traditions, such as the Apache Relay, family/parent days, awards for campers and staff, the use of indigenous names, special birthday acknowledgments, the transfer of ashes ceremony, and the iconic Color War. Each tradition prompts a

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Ep 30: Understanding Mass Violence and Its Impact on...

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2024/02/23

In this episode, Kelie and Shauna, are joined by Shane Meserve, a consultant and trainer on mass violence and child abuse prevention, for a discussion on the topic of mass violence and its impact on children and camps. The episode focuses on ways in which programs like camps can aid in prevention, utilization of trauma-informed care, and maintaining a safe environment for the children. The hosts also discuss techniques to manage the aftermath of a mass violence event and look at how these incidents

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Ep 29: Understanding Gen Z: Trauma-Informed Care in...

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2024/01/25

Kelie and Shauna are joined by Claire Griffith, a recreation specialist working with cognitively impaired individuals. Claire addresses trauma informed care within a camp setting, stressing the importance of safety, trust, transparency, peer support, and collaboration, and acknowledging cultural, historical, and gender issues. They explore how trauma informed care can influence Gen Z, considered the first generation heavily into online and social media, and touches on how managers and older

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46:31

Ep 28: Insider's Look: Women in Camp Summit 2023 -...

SCamp Life: The Other Side ·

2024/01/10

In this episode, Shauna gives a detailed rundown of her experiences at the Women in Camp Summit 2023, also known as WICS. The episode includes discussions on several important topics including the significance of intersectionality in camping, the importance of transparency in job descriptions to accommodate neurodivergent individuals, trauma-informed management, and the impact of privilege. The conversation includes insightful discussions between Shauna and Kelie and highlights some inspirational

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