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The AI Argument

Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery

Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it"s not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in "The AI Argument"Contact Frank at frank@frankandmarci.comlinkedin.com/in/frankprendergastContact Justin at justin.collery@wi-pipe.comX - @jcollery

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39:21

Citrini’s AI Crisis, More Anthropic–Pentagon Drama,...

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2026/03/07

Citrini Research’s The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis has reignited the AI economy debate. Could AI create trillions in “ghost GDP” while destroying jobs and destabilising the economy? Plus: the Anthropic vs Pentagon drama continues, Anthropic holds the line, OpenAI capitalises, and Dario Amodei writes a blistering memo. GPT-5.3 Instant and GPT-5.4 Thinking & Pro arrive in quick succession, Quiver.ai produces genuinely usable vector graphics, and Sonauto pushes AI music into ethically m...

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32:13

Tumbler Ridge and OpenAI, Pika.me Dead Internet, and...

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2026/02/27

Could OpenAI have prevented the Tumbler Ridge shooting? Or are we asking the wrong question? OpenAI flagged the suspect months before the tragedy. A human review led to an account ban. But no call to authorities. Was that a failure, or proof that AI companies are being asked to make decisions that should belong to democratically accountable institutions? Plus: Pika.me’s “AI Self” and whether it accelerates the dead internet, the Pentagon threatening to commandeer Claude, and the vibe ...

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33:57

AI “Something Big”, Anthropic vs Pentagon, GPT-4o...

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2026/02/20

Matt Shumer says “something big is happening” in AI, and he thinks most people still haven’t noticed. Is this the genuine tipping point, or just louder hype wrapped around slightly better tools? Justin’s buying it, pointing to how fast the tools have levelled up: you can hand over far more than a single task now, and sometimes get useful end-to-end results. Frank’s not so sure. The systems still break, still make things up, and still need experienced humans to catch errors and tidy the outpu...

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37:33

MoltBook Disaster, AGI Already Here, and Anthropic...

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2026/02/07

MoltBook, a social network built for AI agents, launched and the internet lost its mind. Elon Musk called it the start of the singularity. Security researchers saw serious problems with the platform. AI agents were allowed to act autonomously in a shared social space. Claims spread that they formed a religion, spoke in code, and even doxxed a human user. Justin sees a fascinating scientific experiment. Frank’s problem isn’t with MoltBook itself, but that it launched before basic security was...

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32:17

OpenClaw Security Risks, Dario Amodei’s AI Warnings,...

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2026/01/31

ClawdBot / MoltBot / OpenClaw (or whatever we’re calling it today) runs constantly on your machine and acts without prompting. Justin gave it full access and shut it down after 3 hours. When a techno-optimist like Justin calls an AI tool "too dangerous," listen up. Beyond OpenClaw, we examine Dario Amodei's measured take on AI risks from economic upheaval to bioweapons, plus a troubling story about ICE using AI to screen CVs and fast-tracking people without proper law enforcement training. ...

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30:56

AGI Timelines, Claude's Soul, AI Calls Cops on...

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2026/01/24

Dario Amodei says AGI arrives in one to two years. Demis Hassabis says five to ten. Both want to slow down, but would Elon? Would China? Meanwhile, Anthropic released Claude's Constitution - the document some called its "soul." The document states that Anthropic doesn't know if Claude is conscious, but it seems they care enough to act as if it just might be. Plus: OpenAI might run out of money in 18 months, Elon and Sam argue about whose product has killed more people, and AI surveillance c...

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34:27

ChatGPT Ads, Claude Cowork, and the Stranger Things...

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2026/01/17

Ads are coming to ChatGPT. Claude Cowork offers a serious new way to work with documents. Google’s Gemini goes hyper-personal by tapping into your data, while fans speculate that ChatGPT helped write Stranger Things. Plus: Apple’s AI gap and Elon Musk’s lawsuit against OpenAI. Tell us in the comments, how do you feel about ads in ChatGPT? 01:31 Will ads ruin ChatGPT before it makes money? 10:37 Is Claude Cowork what Copilot should have been? 16:40 Do we want Gemini hyper-personalizin...

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32:21

ChatGPT Health Risks, Grok Image Scandal, AI Frog...

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2026/01/09

ChatGPT Health is now an official product. Frank worries that making this a feature lends it more authority than it deserves. Justin’s less concerned about the quality of advice, he’s worried about OpenAI owning the data. Plus: Claude Code Opus 4.5, Suno, Grok, Razer, AI relationships. Tell us in the comments: would you trust AI with your health data, or is that a hard no? 00:55 Will AI make 2026 amazing or disastrous? 03:48 Is Claude Code basically AGI already? 06:11 Can Suno land Frank a...

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38:51

OpenAI Propaganda, Hidden AI Triggers, Copilot’s...

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2025/12/19

Wired Magazine says OpenAI’s “research” is starting to sound like propaganda. Frank says that’s what happens when IPO pressure creeps in — the bad news gets buried unless regulation forces transparency. Justin says Frank’s chasing the wrong villain: regulation won’t save you if politicians still don’t have a plan for the job shock. Plus: Nick Huber trying to ban AI-written emails. ChatGPT rescuing a missing recording with a bit of command line wizardry. Gemini Flash vs Pro, and whether Gemin...

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39:25

GPT-5.2, Disney’s AI Deal, AI Ads Gone Wrong: The AI...

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2025/12/13

GPT-5.2 lands without warning. Justin pits Claude Code against Codex. Disney partners with OpenAI. Two AI wins for Europe. AI ads outperform humans. And AI product placement might be coming for your favourite shows. 02:51 Did ChatGPT 5.2 just sneak up on us? 05:25 Claude Code vs Codex: quality vs cost? 09:05 How did 5.2 get 390x better in a year? 14:55 Did 5.2 change how much supervision AI needs? 18:25 Why is Disney paying OpenAI a billion? 25:54 What made this a good week for AI in Europe? ...

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35:18

Code Red at OpenAI, Ilya Says Stop Scaling, Robot...

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2025/12/06

ChatGPT just took a 6% hit—and Sam Altman’s hit the panic button. OpenAI is halting feature rollouts, shifting focus, and scrambling to stay ahead. They’ve gone into code red mode. Justin gets it. Frank’s worried they’ll make ChatGPT too clingy to quit. Either way, it’s clear: Gemini’s breathing down their necks, and the gloves are coming off. Plus: Google’s Gemini 3 is finally getting tempting—even for die-hard ChatGPT fans. Justin nearly switched. Frank’s already got one foot in. Meanwhile...

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32:20

Sam Altman Gets Nervous, Opus 4.5 Too Helpful, and...

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2025/11/28

Sam Altman says OpenAI is facing “temporary economic headwinds.” Frank notes that’s the first sign of nerves from a company usually oozing confidence. Justin reckons Google’s cheap chips and fat profits might be the real problem. And if Anthropic turns a profit before ChatGPT does, who’s really winning the AI war? Plus: Claude Opus 4.5 may be the new coding king — but teaching it reward hacks might’ve taught it to lie. Cue a bigger question: when we talk about model alignment, who’s the mode...

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34:03

Gemini 3 Pro, LeCun Leaves Meta, Unsafe AI Teddy...

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2025/11/21

Google’s new Gemini 3 Pro model just took $500 and turned it into nearly $5,500 in a vending machine simulation. A massive 10x return. The previous version only managed a tiny $60 profit. Justin takes this as further proof that Google is going to win the race to AGI. Despite Gemini’s power, Frank likes ChatGPT’s user experience and personality better. That 10x return is impressive, but it is not the only big news this week. Frank and Justin look at why AI launches feel boring lately, s...

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37:10

Stability AI Wins (Sort Of), Apple’s $1B Gemini Deal,...

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2025/11/08

Getty Images vs Stability AI - who won the court case? Both are claiming a win, but Stability AI avoided the big copyright punch, and now UK law says the model itself isn’t the crime scene. Frank breaks down the major rulings. Justin’s not buying that this ends here. Apple’s handing Google a billion a year to rent Gemini and bolt it onto Siri. Frank sees a shareholder-soothing stopgap. Justin thinks Apple’s spooked by OpenAI and Jony Ive’s mystery device. Meanwhile: OpenAI’s deletion trail ...

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38:36

Neo’s Human Operators, OpenAI's Restructure, and...

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2025/11/01

Your Neo home robot might not be powered by AI. It might be powered by teenager in a call centre who’s never folded a towel in his life. That’s the reality behind Neo, the $20K humanoid robot that’s supposedly autonomous. The videos look impressive. But when it gets confused? It needs a remote human operator. Would you invite a teleoperator into your home to do your chores? Plus: OpenAI quietly rewrites its deal with Microsoft — giving them access to all its models until at least 2030, and p...

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35:15

AI Election Interference, AI CEO World Domination,...

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2025/10/25

A fake video told over 100,000 people that the Irish presidential election was cancelled. It wasn’t. But how many voters stayed home anyway? Frank’s worried, Justin’s unconvinced. He says society adapts. Frank warns the real danger isn’t the shocking fakes. It’s the small, believable ones that quietly shape opinion. They both agree the platforms could help. They just don’t. Plus: OpenAI’s shiny new browser sounds impressive, but who’s it actually for? Justin sees potential in “headless agents...

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33:33

AI Bubble Trouble, Monsters at Anthropic, Taylor...

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2025/10/18

Is it an AI bubble, a boom, or a 'market correction in waiting'? Frank reckons OpenAI’s AGI dreams won’t survive a bubble burst. Justin says if the crash hits, Microsoft will scoop up OpenAI for pennies. One thing they both agree on? Google will be just fine. The AI shakeout is coming, so who’s built for the long haul and who’s about to vanish in a puff of VC smoke? Plus, Anthropic’s co-founder sees monsters in the model and wants the public to hold them accountable. Meanwhile, Europe is pump...

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36:11

Sora 2’s Data Grab, Murati’s Boring Brilliance, and...

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2025/10/04

Frank's not sure what OpenAI’s up to with Sora 2. Justin thinks he knows - and he’s kind of impressed. Sam Altman’s building a social media app that looks fun but smells like data harvesting. Plus, Mira Murati’s new company drops a comparatively boring-but-brilliant tool for researchers, Claude 4.5 is released, and Tilly Norwood - the controversial AI actor - kicks off a capitalism vs craft argument. 01:11 Is Sora 2 just TikTok for deepfakes? 14:31 Can you now shop straight from...

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35:19

OpenAI & Nvidia’s 10GW Plan, Stephen Fry’s Red Lines,...

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2025/09/27

OpenAI and Nvidia want to build out 10 gigawatts of AI infrastructure, but Frank calls out the missing electricity and the missing billions. Justin argues the economy will lean on compute, data centres will dwarf expectations, and photonic chips could gut today’s energy bill. One sees magic beans. The other sees a steel-and-silicon juggernaut. Meanwhile, Stephen Fry wants global “red lines” for AI. Justin says you can’t regulate something that doesn’t exist yet. Frank says if you don’t set t...

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34:45

AI Doom vs Gloom, ChatGPT Usage Revealed, and...

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2025/09/20

Justin says p(doom) is for losers. He’s betting on p(bloom), a near-certainty in his view. AI brings abundance, robots do our housework, and everything just gets better. But Frank wants to know your p(gloom). What’s the probability we don’t reach AGI, and instead let AI quietly erode work, value, and meaning, while we end up fixing its mistakes for minimum wage? They argue their way through all three scenarios, then turn to what people are actually doing with ChatGPT. Together, they unpack ei...

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