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Caveat

Join us for thought provoking conversations on surveillance, digital privacy, and cybersecurity law and policy in the information age. Each week, hosts Dave Bittner and Ben Yelin break down the headlines, legal cases, and policy battles that matter most.

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41:18

How North Korea strikes and survives.

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2025/10/23

This week on Caveat, Dave and Ben welcome back N2K’s own ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ethan Cook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for our latest policy deep dive segment. As our lead analyst, Ethan shares his knowledge of law, privacy, and surveillance on the latest policy developments shaping the cybersecurity and legal landscape.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Policy Deep Dive In

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40:00

The existing state of regulation. [CISO Perspectives]

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2025/10/21

Regulation is a double-edged sword. While it helps create structure, establish accountability, and set standards, it also creates unnecessary hurdles, slower response times, and overly rigid systems. With every administration, policy goals and subsequently regulatory stances change, which can have major impacts on business operations.In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Ben Yelin, from the University of Maryland Center for Cyber Health and Hazard Strategies, to

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36:41

Ghosts on screen.

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2025/10/16

This week, while Dave is on vacation, Ben Yelin, and Ethan Cook, N2K's Lead Analyst and editor of the Caveat newsletter, take the lead and share their stories. Ben's story is on the legal and ethical issues surrounding Sora, the tool being used to make AI-powered videos of deceased celebrities. Ethan covers the story about Taiwan’s security bureau releasing a new report detailing recent Chinese hacking efforts and how they compare to the past years.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a

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54:26

From alerts to aborts.

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2025/10/09

Will Daugherty, US Head of Norton Rose Fulbright's Cybersecurity practice, discussing the upcoming expiration of CISA 2015. Ben discusses Apple’s decision to remove the ICEBlock app after pressure from the White House. Dave's got the story of the Secretary of Defense dialing back cyber training fro troops.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your

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50:26

AI on the witness stand.

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2025/10/02

Sarah Graham from the Atlantic Council’s Cyber Statecraft Initiative (CSI) discussing their work and findings on "Mythical Beasts: Diving into the depths of the global spyware market." Ben has the story of law enforcement agencies increasingly relying on AI to synthesize digital evidence. Dave's got the story of the Secretary of Commerce pressuring Taiwan over ship manufacturing. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For

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57:50

Red, white, and for you page.

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2025/09/25

This week, we are joined by Michele Kellerman, Cybersecurity Engineer for Air and Missile Defense at Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab discussing Women's health apps and the legal grey zone that they create with HIPAA. Ben has the story of the potential sale of TikTok to U.S. investors. Dave's got the story of a looming deadline on renewal of a key cybersecurity information sharing bill.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal

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55:15

Decrypting the future.

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2025/09/18

Today we are joined by ⁠Rebecca Krauthamer, Stanford Quantum Computing Researcher and CEO of QuSecure, to discuss the National Quantum Cybersecurity Migration Strategy Act. Ben has the story of a new California bill regulating AI. Dave's got the story of the controversial technology transfer from the US to the UAE. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact

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48:03

HR1 and the future of U.S. tech security

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2025/09/11

This week on Caveat, Dave and Ben welcome back N2K’s own ⁠⁠⁠⁠Ethan Cook⁠⁠⁠⁠ for our latest policy deep dive segment. As our lead analyst, Ethan shares his knowledge of law, privacy, and surveillance on the latest policy developments shaping the cybersecurity and legal landscape.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Policy Deep Dive In

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48:13

Two seconds to safer online spaces.

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2025/09/04

Today we are joined by Elad Schindler, Product Manager of AU10TIX, sharing some details about their free assessment tool and readiness guide to help organizations navigate child safety age assurance compliance. Ben discusses some unintended consequences of age verification laws. Dave's got a look at the government’s recent acquisition of a stake in Intel.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of

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47:36

Ransomware readiness at risk.

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2025/08/28

This week, Ben speaks with John Anthony Smith, Founder and CSO at Fenix24, about why law firms are falling behind on recovery readiness as human-operated attacks continue to rise. Ben also shares insights on a hack impacting the federal court system, while Dave takes a look at a Michigan Supreme Court ruling on digital device fishing.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover,

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55:04

Installment plans for your privacy.

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2025/08/21

On today’s show we are joined by Ron Zayas, CEO of Ironwall by Incogni, to discuss the massive data sharing and privacy risks in the leading Buy Now Pay Later apps. Ben’s got the story of Illinois banning the use of AI in mental health therapy, joining Nevada and Utah in restricting chatbots amid growing concerns about their safety and effectiveness. Dave's got the story of former President Trump threatening an executive order to ban mail-in voting and voting machines—claims experts say are

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45:52

Governments go on the offensive

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2025/08/14

This week on Caveat, Dave and Ben welcome back N2K’s own ⁠⁠⁠Ethan Cook⁠⁠⁠ for our latest policy deep dive segment. As our lead analyst, Ethan shares his knowledge of law, privacy, and surveillance on the latest policy developments shaping the cybersecurity and legal landscape.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Complete our annual

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38:42

Protecting or policing?

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2025/08/07

On today’s show Ben’s got the story of how the UK’s new Online Safety Act, billed as a way to protect children, may actually end up doing more harm than good—with mandatory age checks, privacy concerns, and a growing backlash from users. Dave’s got the story of how Flock Safety is expanding its controversial license plate surveillance network into schools—raising serious concerns from privacy advocates about student monitoring, data use, and the growing reach of law enforcement tech on

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46:55

Trump’s AI race against China.

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2025/07/31

While Ben is on vacation this week, Dave welcomes back Ethan Cook to the show. On today’s episode, Ethan breaks down former President Trump’s recently released AI action plan, highlighting key priorities and what it could mean for the future of U.S. tech policy. Dave takes a closer look at the growing bipartisan support for AI regulation in Congress, exploring how lawmakers from both parties are approaching concerns around transparency, accountability, and national security as AI capabilities

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40:43

The clock’s ticking and the bots are clicking.

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2025/07/24

This week, Ben's story is on the looming expiration of the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA 2015), a widely supported but currently stalled law that enables cyber threat data sharing between the private sector and government, now at risk of lapsing by September 30 due to congressional inaction and conflicting priorities. Dave’s got the story of how a Georgia court's AI-fueled legal blunder has sparked growing concern that overworked judges nationwide could increasingly miss fake citations

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45:52

Cybersecurity in the states.

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2025/07/17

This week, we are joined by Gary Barlet, former Federal CIO and Air Force Cyber Operations Officer and current Public Sector CTO at Illumio, to discuss how this approach to cybersecurity leaves some states much more at risk than others. Ben has the story of a Virginia case relating to reverse key word searches. Dave's got a highly unusual move by the DOJ against Maryland’s district courts. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice

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49:55

Who’s the boss of AI?

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2025/07/10

This week on Caveat, Dave and Ben welcome back N2K’s own ⁠⁠Ethan Cook⁠⁠ for our latest policy deep dive segment. As our lead analyst, Ethan shares his knowledge of law, privacy, and surveillance on the latest policy developments shaping the cybersecurity and legal landscape.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Complete our annual

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42:29

A nation divided can’t stand secure.

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2025/07/03

This week, we are joined by Gary Barlet, former Federal CIO and Air Force Cyber Operations Officer and current Public Sector CTO at Illumio, to discuss how this approach to cybersecurity leaves some states much more at risk than others. Ben discusses some major Supreme Court decisions from the just concluded 2025 term. Dave's got the story of a license plate reader company dialing back access after media reports reveal potential oversharing. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer,

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37:28

Cyber offense in the hot seat.

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2025/06/26

This week on Caveat, Dave and Ben sit down with Andy Boyd, former Director of the CIA’s Center for Cyber Intelligence (CCI) and now an operating partner at AE Industrial Partners, a private equity firm focused on national security and aerospace. With decades of experience leading cyber operations at one of the most secretive U.S. intelligence agencies, Andy shares candid insights on the state of offensive cyber operations in the United States.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a

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53:05

Answering the cybersecurity call.

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2025/06/19

Please enjoy this encore of Caveat. Camille Stewart Gloster, Former Deputy National Cyber Director at the White House, is sharing a retrospective of her public service career. Ben discusses a new lawsuit in Illinois challenging automatic license plate readers. Dave's got the story of an AI hotline between the US and China. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please

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