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This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose

Joe Pulizzi & Robert Rose

Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose, two of the most well-known experts in the content marketing space, talk about the latest content marketing trends and discuss how businesses can use content to attract and retain customers. Each podcast show features a discussion of content marketing headlines, rants from Joe and Robert on what"s going on in the industry, and a "This Old Marketing" example from the past (that we can learn from). Always useful, entertaining and never more than 60 minutes.

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01:09:23

AI, Layoffs, and the Next Trillion-Dollar IPO? (504)

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/10/31

It's another wild week in the world of marketing, media, and tech. First up: Amazon announced yet another round of layoffs, and Joe and Robert dive into the growing trend among the Magnificent 10 companies. Are these just normal business cycles? The result of AI-driven productivity? Or signs of something deeper happening in the global economy? Then: OpenAI is restructuring to look more like a traditional for-profit company. With Microsoft now owning 27%, the boys debate what this means for control,

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01:08:29

Atlas Shrugged: Is OpenAI Coming for Google? (503)

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/10/24

This week’s episode of This Old Marketing dives deep into the evolving world of AI, automation, and creator opportunities. 1. OpenAI’s ChatGPT Atlas: A Google Killer? OpenAI’s latest product, ChatGPT Atlas, has some wondering if this is a direct strike at Google’s dominance in search. We break down what Atlas is, how it changes the discovery landscape, and what it means for marketers and creators. 2. AI and Robots Taking Jobs A New York Times article reports that Amazon plans to replace over half a

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01:03:10

Ohhhh Claude! (502)

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/10/17

In this episode, Joe and Robert break down the latest moves in the ongoing battle between lawmakers and social media giants. California is leading the charge with new AI and social media legislation — plus, Instagram is testing a “rating system” for content. Is this meaningful progress or just more political theater? The guys also cover how OpenAI and Anthropic are stepping into the marketing world. OpenAI’s first ad sparks debate (is it a miss?), while Anthropic’s experiential push might have us

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01:09:55

The Era of AI-Made Everything (501)

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/10/10

After celebrating 500 weeks of podcasting, Joe and Robert are back to regular programming. And this week… things get weird. OpenAI and Meta both dropped major updates to their AI apps—releases that could either spark the next great social network or bring about the end of the internet as we know it. The guys break down what these announcements mean for creators, advertisers, and the future of “artificial content.” In other news, Anthropic settles a $1.5 billion lawsuit that could mean payouts for

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01:13:21

500 Hours of Marketing, Rants, and Football [Special...

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/10/03

It’s here...the 500th episode of This Old Marketing! In this very special show, Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose take a walk down memory lane, sharing stories, clips, and predictions from across the past twelve years of the podcast. Along the way, they’re joined by some surprise guests and special videos from friends of the show. Highlights from the Episode The Beginning (Episode 1 – November 20, 2013): Joe and Robert recall the car ride that sparked the idea and how they launched the first episode in

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01:02:13

The Rise of Creators, the Fall of Studios (499)

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/09/26

In the final show before the big 500 extravaganza, Joe and Robert discuss why individual creators are slowly taking over Hollywood — and whether there are opportunities for brands in this shift. The creator takeover: Ad Age: Why creators, not studios, will lead production by 2030 Sports meets streaming: New Heights integration with Amazon Prime — Travis and Jason Kelce’s New Heights podcast will now stream on Amazon Prime. Buying media properties: Why a marketing consultant bought the largest

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01:09:17

TikTok You Don't Stop (498)

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/09/19

No, TikTok does not stop. Maybe the fourth time is the charm, as Robert and Joe run through the latest with the TikTok “staying or going” drama. Get all the latest on the changes, although it might be a big nothing burger. Link to more: U.S.-China Deal to Avert TikTok Ban May be Close, Trump Official Says - The New York Times YouTube makes a strong case that they are integral to the US economy. With $100 billion going to creators, new and improved creation features, and an all-in-one create and

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01:04:10

Is Reddit the Missing Piece in Your Content Marketing...

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/09/12

This week, Joe and Robert dig into the Reddit phenomenon. Leading in AI findability (AEO) and trusted by geeks everywhere, the platform is having its coming-out moment. Is it time to ride the marketing train to Reddit town? Here’s why Reddit marketing could be your next big business move OpenAI wants to make a full-length animated movie that isn’t AI slop. Can they pull it off, or is this just a content marketing play? (Hint: the latter.) OpenAI wants to make an AI movie that isn’t slop Meanwhile,

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01:07:38

Is AI Burning Down Google's Empire? + NFL Predictions...

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/09/05

The marketing news of the week: A federal judge has ordered a shakeup of Google’s search engine. Some call it a slap on the wrist, but it’s clear even the courts see Google’s dominance slipping. With AI search and new competitors on the rise, will Google’s empire burn down? -- Judge orders search shakeup in Google monopoly case | PBS News Meanwhile, the so-called “marketing AI boom” is running headfirst into a crisis of customer trust. But do people really care about privacy, or is it just talk? Joe

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01:06:31

Cracker Barrel, Uranus and CEX: Marketing News this...

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/08/29

This week on the podcast, Joe and Robert break down the big takeaways from Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX): The future of human content vs. AI content and why this tension may define the next decade. Why leaning into your “crazy” could be the smartest business move you’ll ever make. The rise of new search metrics and how they’re quietly reshaping the creator landscape. Marketing news this week: Cracker Barrel’s Logo Backlash – A nostalgic flip-flop for the ages. Was this a brilliant PR

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01:08:27

The Golden Age of Content Marketing (494)

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/08/22

Are we entering a new golden age of content marketing? In this week’s This Old Marketing, Joe Pulizzi and Robert Rose dig into why the industry feels more alive than ever and what this resurgence means for brands and creators alike. The Big Stories: When Hollywood Hits the Break Room: A credit-card company launches a sitcom (Roomies) that blurs the line between branded content and binge-worthy entertainment. Read more → From Tackles to Talk Shows: The NFL’s Broadcast Boot Camp trains players to

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01:01:32

Have the Search Wars Started Over Again? (493)

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/08/15

Big news in the tech and marketing world this week. AI search leader Perplexity stunned the industry with a $34 billion offer to buy Google Chrome. Is this just a headline-grabbing PR stunt… or could it actually give Google a way out of its ongoing antitrust mess? Meanwhile, OpenAI is scrambling to turn lemons into lemonade after the botched ChatGPT-5 launch. Did they completely miss the mark with their audience, or has their technology hit a temporary wall — giving Google, Anthropic, X, and others

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01:13:45

The Future of Influencer Marketing Is NOT What You...

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/08/08

The boys are back (and better than ever) with a brand-new episode on what influencer marketing will look like soon (including AI). In this episode, they break down the new deal between ESPN and the NFL. Does this partnership signal new opportunities for brands and content marketing deals in the near future? YouTube announced that it will begin testing a new AI feature designed to estimate whether a user is a minor...regardless of the birthday listed on the account. Some creators fear it will hurt

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30:49

How to Future-Proof Your Brain, Body, and Business...

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/08/01

This is the last special solo episode for a while. Thankfully, Robert and Joe will be back next week to make nonsense about marketing and content news. But today’s episode is something a little different. In 1937, Napoleon Hill wrote Think and Grow Rich. His ideas about belief, desire, and persistence changed lives—Joe's included. Joe's new book, Burn the Playbook, is his answer to what Think and Grow Rich would look like today. It's not just about financial wealth...it's about freedom. Mental

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43:05

The Mullet Content Strategy [Special Episode] (490)

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/07/25

In this solo episode of This Old Marketing, Robert dives headfirst into the uncomfortable - and increasingly urgent - tension at the heart of modern content strategy: Can we still create truly human content, full of nuance, voice, and emotional honesty… while also making sure the machines don’t misinterpret (or mangle) what we mean? Inspired by the announced end of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Robert explores how the final stretch of a show - or a career, or even a blog archive - can shape

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20:33

The Marketing Profession Is In Danger. Here's One...

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/07/18

Get ready for this special episode that you needed to hear years ago. Let me say this plainly: Working for someone else is the riskiest thing you can do right now. For decades, we believed that a "good job" was the ultimate security. A steady paycheck. Healthcare. Maybe a 401(k) with a match. But that model is falling apart in real time. I’ve seen this from the inside. I’ve been the employee. I’ve been the boss. I’ve been the guy who signed the layoff papers. When I was at Penton we went through

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41:59

OpenAI Needs a Nap and So Do You [Special Episode] (488)

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/07/11

This week Robert flies solo (Joe’s busy revolutionizing dairy on the blockchain) to ask a question:  What if slower is the new smarter? After riffing on OpenAI’s burnout‑induced shutdown, he unveils a sneak peek of his upcoming book, Valuable Friction. From Netflix’s “Skip Intro” button to AI‑generated sameness, Robert shows how our obsession with frictionless everything is draining the meaning out of marketing...and life. Tune in for the four kinds of friction that sharpen ideas, deepen

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01:05:25

Critical: Your Marketing Job Plan B [Special Episode]...

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/07/04

After a quick cover of the Cloudflare news where it will be possible to select and make money from AI companies crawling your site, Joe and Robert dive into marketing plan B. Specifically - The New Normal: Why Everyone Needs a Personal Brand (Even If You’re Not Selling Anything) The collapse of the idea that a job = stability. From creators to CMOs: why everyone needs visibility. The difference between self-promotion and self-preservation. Hot take: You’re always in stealth mode for your next job

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01:06:39

AI Slop and What Mamdani's Win Means for Marketing (486)

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/06/27

AI hits the headlines again. Anthropic wins a lawsuit for its training data procedures, but the judge leaves room for additional lawsuits. In the greater scheme, will any of the lawsuits really matter? John Oliver's AI Slop video is "must-see-TV" and AI content continues to become a bigger part of our lives in content creation and marketing. What do we need to do? And Zohran Mamdani wins the Democratic nomination for mayor in New York, outlasting the big money players through a Gen Z-focused

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01:02:05

Marketing Survival Tips Post AI & Social (485)

This Old Marketing - News Podcast Weekly with Joe... ·

2025/06/20

Huge research uncovers the obvious. Television and "traditional media" is going obsolete, as social media revenues and watch/listen time dominates. It is indeed the end of the living room. The boys review reports from WPP and NiemenLab. In marketing winners, Terry Moran launches a substack after being fired. But shouldn't he have had one already? Contractual reasons aside, the boys detail a marketing/creator survival plan that's not just a nice to have. Rants and raves include Answer Engine

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