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Wickedly Judged

Rebecca Watkins

What if the system meant to protect us is the one that fails us the most? Wickedly Judged is a true crime podcast exposing wrongful convictions, broken justice, and the people whose lives are forever changed by the system. Hosted by Rebecca, the show dives deep into real cases and the human stories behind them — the families, the loved ones, and the empty seats that are never forgotten.Inspired by her husband’s wrongful conviction, Rebecca brings truth, heart, and fearless advocacy to every episode

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58:14

DNA Excluded Him. He Still Spent 16 Years in Prison|...

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2026/10/01

Hey! I'd love to hear your thoughts, send me a voice note.DNA Excluded Him. He Still Spent 16 Years in Prison | Jeff DeskovicDNA evidence excluded Jeffrey Deskovic before trial, yet he was convicted as a teenager and spent 16 years in prison for a crime he did not commit.In this episode of Wickedly Judged, Rebecca talks with Jeff about becoming a suspect at 16, the interrogation that led to his false confession, and how a confession outweighed DNA evidence that excluded him. At 17, Jeff was

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89:43

The Judge's Oath Podcast Guest interview

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2026/09/24

Hey! I'd love to hear your thoughts, send me a voice note.Rebecca Watkins, founder of Wickedly Judged and president of the Wickedly Judged Justice Activation Project, joins Cheryl Kelmar on The Judge’s Oath Podcast to share the personal fight that sparked her advocacy.Rebecca discusses her husband’s conviction—which she maintains is wrongful—and the years spent reviewing records, seeking answers, and fighting to have his case heard. She explains how that experience grew into a podcast and an

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15:27

Heather Wlasiuk: The Woman Behind the Fight for Pete

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2026/09/17

Hey! I'd love to hear your thoughts, send me a voice note.Heather Wlasiuk: The Woman Behind the Fight for PeteIn this special episode of Wickedly Judged, we sit down with Heather Wlasiuk for a conversation focused on her perspective, her advocacy, and what it means to stand beside someone while fighting a conviction that has already spanned more than two decades.Throughout our coverage of the Peter Wlasiuk case, we have examined a complicated legal history: three trials, two overturned convictions,

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48:23

Pete & Heather Wlasiuk: Questions Remain — Part 4

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2026/09/10

Pete & Heather Wlasiuk: Questions Remain — Part 4Was justice served in the Peter Wlasiuk case—or are we still missing part of the truth?In Part 4 of our continuing interview with Pete and Heather Wlasiuk, we go deeper into a case that has now been questioned and litigated for more than two decades.Patricia Wlasiuk died in April 2002 after Pete's truck entered Guilford Lake in New York. Prosecutors ultimately alleged that Pete killed Patricia and staged the scene to look like an accident. Pete

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28:54

Pete & Heather Wlasiuk: The Fight for the Truth...

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2026/09/03

Pete & Heather Wlasiuk: The Fight for the Truth Continues — Part 3In Part 3 of our conversation with Pete and Heather Wlasiuk, we continue digging into the questions surrounding Pete's conviction and what they believe has been overlooked, misunderstood, or misrepresented throughout the case.Patricia Wlasiuk died in April 2002 after a vehicle entered Guilford Lake in New York. Prosecutors alleged that Pete murdered Patricia and staged the scene to appear accidental. Pete has maintained his

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28:06

The Peter Wlasiuk Case: Pete and Heather Continue...

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2026/08/27

The Peter Wlasiuk Case: Pete and Heather Continue Their StoryIn this continuation of our interview, Pete and Heather Wlasiuk discuss the case that has kept Pete incarcerated for more than two decades and the continuing fight to challenge his conviction.Patricia Wlasiuk died after a vehicle entered Guilford Lake in New York in April 2002. Prosecutors alleged that Pete murdered Patricia and staged the scene to resemble an accident. Pete has consistently maintained his innocence.His case has involved

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31:38

The Peter Wlasiuk Case: Three Trials, Two Reversals,...

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2026/08/20

The Peter Wlasiuk Case: Three Trials, Two Reversals, and Questions That RemainIn this episode of Wickedly Judged, we examine the case of Peter “Pete” Wlasiuk, convicted of murdering his wife, Patricia Wlasiuk, after her death at Guilford Lake in New York in April 2002.What was initially reported as a tragic vehicle accident quickly became a homicide investigation. Prosecutors argued that Pete murdered Patricia and staged the scene to make her death appear accidental. Pete has maintained his

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46:29

The Investigator Who Took a Second Look: David Beers...

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2026/08/13

The Investigator Who Took a Second Look: David Beers and the Pete Wlasiuk CaseWhat happens when an experienced investigator takes a fresh look at a murder case and begins asking questions that may not have been asked the first time?In this episode of Wickedly Judged, I sit down with David Beers, an experienced private investigator and former New York State Police investigator, to discuss his career, the role of private investigators in criminal cases, and his involvement in the case of Peter “Pete”

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70:05

Interview with Kent McGowen Part 3: Accountability,...

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2026/07/23

In Part 3 of the Wickedly Judged interview with Kent McGowen, we continue the final part of this three-part conversation and look at the broader impact of the case, the justice system, and the questions that still remain. This episode focuses on what happens after the investigation and court process: the consequences, the unanswered issues, the challenges of accountability, and the human cost carried by everyone connected to a case. Kent McGowen shares his perspective on the aftermath and the

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70:06

Interview with Kent McGowen Part 2: The Investigation...

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2026/07/16

In Part 2 of the Wickedly Judged interview with Kent McGowen, the conversation continues with a closer look at the investigation, the evidence, and the questions that remain unresolved. This part goes deeper into the details that can shape a case: witness statements, documentation, timelines, investigative decisions, and the way evidence is collected, interpreted, or challenged. Kent McGowen discusses the complexities of the case and the issues that continue to raise concerns. Part 2 builds on the

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69:07

Interview with Kent McGowen Part 1 The Case, The...

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2026/07/09

In Part 1 of the Wickedly Judged interview with Kent McGowen, we begin the conversation by setting the stage for the case, the investigation, and the questions that continue to surround the record. This episode introduces the key issues at the center of the discussion: how the case began, what was documented, what may have been missed, and why the early decisions in an investigation can shape everything that follows. Kent McGowen shares his perspective on the process, the evidence, and the

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25:58

The Human Cost

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2026/07/02

THE HUMAN COST”In the final episode of this series, Rebecca reflects on the emotional, financial, and psychological impact wrongful-conviction litigation has on families and communities.This episode serves as both a recap and a deeply personal conclusion to the Johnny Watkins series.Rebecca revisits:The contradictions surrounding the knifeConflicting witness narrativesArchived and previously inaccessible recordsThe motion for leaveAppellate and postconviction barriersInterrogation concernsThe

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26:36

The Investigation

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2026/06/25

THE INVESTIGATION”In this episode of Wickedly Judged, Rebecca takes listeners deep inside the investigation surrounding the Johnny Watkins case and examines the reliability concerns raised throughout the record.This episode explores:How quickly investigators appeared to settle on a theoryThe dangers of tunnel vision and confirmation biasThe role alcohol, stress, and group dynamics can play in witness memoryWhy witness narratives evolved over timeContradictions involving the alleged knife and its

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25:43

How Appeals Really Work

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2026/06/18

HOW APPEALS REALLY WORK”In this episode of Wickedly Judged, Rebecca breaks down the harsh reality of the appellate and postconviction process in wrongful-conviction litigation. Far from the dramatic courtroom scenes portrayed in movies, appeals are often long, technical, emotionally exhausting battles centered around procedure, records, deadlines, and access to evidence.This episode explains:What a direct appeal actually isWhy appellate courts are limited to the official recordHow missing or

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27:39

The Record Was Never Complete

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2026/06/11

The Record Was Never Complete”In this episode of Wickedly Judged, Rebecca examines one of the most serious issues raised in the motion for leave: whether this case ever received meaningful review when critical parts of the record were inaccessible, untranscribed, archived, or scattered across different systems for years.The episode explains why a complete record is essential to appellate and post-conviction review, especially in a case that depends heavily on witness testimony rather than

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22:06

The Knife, The Witnesses, and The Missing Weapon

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2026/06/04

“THE KNIFE”In the opening episode of this investigative series, Rebecca breaks down one of the most disputed and troubling aspects of the Johnny Watkins case — the knife.This episode focuses on:Conflicting witness statements surrounding who possessed the knifeTestimony placing Caleb Angel in possession of the knife before, during, and after the stabbingContradictions involving who allegedly disposed of the weaponStatements suggesting Billy Robinson admitted to disposing of the knifeWhy the alleged

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75:35

Voices They Tried to Silence

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2026/05/28

The Rob McCoy, Tony Viola, Dawn Pasela, and the Fight Against Wrongful Convictions”In this powerful episode of Wickedly Judged, Rebecca is joined by Rob McCoy for an emotional and eye-opening discussion surrounding allegations of wrongful convictions, prosecutorial misconduct, coercive plea tactics, and the suspicious death of Dawn Pasela.Rob shares his personal experience becoming entangled in a federal mortgage fraud investigation connected to the Tony Viola case and explains how aggressive

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34:17

Forgotten Warriors: Veterans Behind Bars

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2026/05/21

Episode NotesWickedly Judged PodcastMilitary Appreciation Month Special“Forgotten Warriors: Veterans Behind Bars”During Military Appreciation Month, we honor the men and women who served this country — but tonight we focus on the veterans America too often forgets.In this powerful episode of Wickedly Judged, Rebecca explores the connection between military service, trauma, PTSD, addiction, incarceration, and systemic failure inside the criminal justice system.This episode dives into:The

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23:20

Why I Went Silent-Building Something Bigger

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2026/05/07

Episode NotesWickedly Judged — “Why I Went Silent — Building Something Bigger”Episode summaryIn this personal update episode, Rebecca shares why Wickedly Judged went quiet—and why that silence wasn’t the end of the mission, but the foundation of something bigger. Behind the scenes, she has been drafting legal motions connected to her husband’s case, building a parole packet for an upcoming June hearing, and carrying the emotional and financial weight that so many wrongful-conviction families live

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51:08

Wickedly Judged: “No Cash Bail” & Bail Reform...

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2026/03/12

Episode SummaryIn this episode of Wickedly Judged, Rebecca sits down with Ken W. Good, a Texas bail attorney and board member of the Professional Bondsmen of Texas, for a pre-recorded conversation about “no cash bail” and the realities of bail reform. The discussion explores what bail is supposed to do, what reform is trying to fix, and why accountability and real-world outcomes matter when policies change.GuestKen W. Good — Texas bail attorney; Board Member, Professional Bondsmen of TexasWhat This

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