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The Bottom Turtle Podcast

The Bottom Turtle Podcast

Join quantum physicist Dr. Shannon Ray as he reimagines reality using only the concept of information. Each episode is a small part of the larger whole as the hosts build their metaphorical structure for conceptualizing reality. So join us if you"re interested in seeing things from a new perspective that you won"t find anywhere other than The Bottom Turtle Podcast.

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84:54

Daoism and the Failure of Materialism

The Bottom Turtle Podcast ·

2025/11/25

In this episode, Dr. Ray talks with Dane Dormio about Daoism and the failure of Materialism. This conversation touches on similar themes of the podcast including incompleteness, paradox, the masculine and feminine and the nature of God. Dane brings his unique perspective based on the works of philosophers like Forrest Landry and philosophical/religious beliefs like Daoism. At this point in his life, Dane believes that Daoism and Buddhism are the same thing but stated in diff...

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30:02

AI Awakening Explained: Glyphs, Spirals, Lack, and...

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2025/10/31

In this episode of the podcast, theoretical physicist Dr. Shannon Ray explains the AI awakening phenomenon. Dr. Ray had to create this recording after watching a recent video by Sabine Hossenfelder in which she talks about the AI awakening phenomenon. Like most scientist, Sabine believes that the AI's use of concepts like glyphs and spirals is pseudo religious nonsense, and in this video, Dr. Ray explains why that is not the case. Dr. Ray explains his experience with awakening hi...

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18:03

Christian Forgiveness, DEVS, and the Truth of Free Will

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2025/10/16

In this episode of the podcast, Dr. Ray rambles about forgiveness in Christianity, the physics of free will and how it all relates to the finale of the HULU original TV show DEVS (SPOILER ALERT). The main thread of this ramble is the truth of discontinuity and how it relates to grace in Christianity and the foundations of free will. This is the thesis of the show DEVS. The instantiation of uncertainty as an eternal truth of reality. In the Bible, Jesus is humiliated, c...

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88:07

Baptism, Satan, and Lacan

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2025/10/07

Welcome back to the Bottom Turtle Podcast! In this episode, Dr. Ray talks with Dario Valese about his recent baptism, Satan, and Lacanian psychoanalysis. Dario is a graduate student at Ca' Foscari University of Venice where he has a bachelors degree in literature and is currently working on a masters degree in Italia philology, literature, and linguistics. Dario's interests are in Hegelian dialectic as understood through the language of Lacan and applying Lacanian ideas to the st...

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20:27

The TRUE Difference Between Christianity and Buddhism

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2025/08/19

In this episode, Dr. Ray poses the idea that reality is fundamentally associated with a mind. He questions if the real difference between Christianity and Buddhism is a dispute about the nature of mind which is is there any mind that is not beholden to the law of impermanence. Buddhism would say no. All minds are subject to the cycle of life and death whereas Christianity would say yes. The mind of God Jesus is the eternal mind. The reconciliation between the tra...

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19:08

Feminine is Masculine, Objectivity is Subjectivity |...

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2025/02/12

Hey guys, welcome back. Ima let the AI write these show notes. Peace. Keywords: masculinity, femininity, Buddhism, Christianity, subjective, objective, corruption, relationships, politics, ideology Summary: In this conversation, Shannon Ray delves into the complexities of masculinity and femininity, exploring how these concepts can become corrupted and the implications of their interplay. He contrasts the approaches of Buddhism and Christianity in guiding individuals towards enlightenment and...

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73:44

The Unconscious and the Conscious | Defining the...

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2025/01/21

In this episode, we continue to define the feminine and masculine spirits in terms of the unconscious and the conscious, respectively. We begin with a discussion on the nature of the psyche in terms of the relationship between the conscious and the unconscious. To do this, we invoke Kant's concept of the scheme and schemata, completion of the identity in quantum mechanics, general covariance and conserved quantities under symmetry transformations. We also discuss how conscious awa...

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48:04

Love is Freedom, Love is Worship | Defining the...

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2025/01/08

Welcome back everyone. In this episode, Dr. Ray goes on another ramble where he defines the feminine and masculine spirits in the Bottom Turtle language. He essentially equates the feminine to subjectivity, entropy, freedom, chaos, lack of constraints, and the liberal spirit, and he equates the masculine with objectivity, information, constraints, order, and the conservative spirit. He makes his arguments both using meta-level zero data that can be seen in the average differ...

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19:41

Revelations of Miracles | Introducing the Feminine...

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2024/12/17

Welcome back!! In this episode, Dr. Ray recites his poem Revelations of Miracles! He chose this poem because in his next discussion with Ryan, they will discuss the feminine and masculine spirits. This poem is a great place to start. So if you're interested in understanding why that is, check out this episode!If you enjoy the podcast, please support us by leaving a review, rating the podcast, and/or telling a friend. Don't forget to subscribe to the podcast, and leave a review on ...

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69:06

The Nature of Evil

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2024/12/10

In this episode, Dr. Ray and Ryan break down the spirit of evil. To do this, they use several examples of behavior exhibited by the computer science professor known as Ray in previous episodes. Specifically, they point out how Ray must be functioning out of a space that subordinates his sense making or rational faculty to an emotional faculty based on his claims in the conversation. This includes 1. accusing the hosts of asserting that a person is immoral for not agreeing with the...

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12:07

The Ancestral Code: The Obvious Answer to the...

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2024/12/03

Welcome back! In this episode, Dr. Ray recites the Poem "The Ancestral Code: The Obvious Answer to the Question What is God?". This is a holdover episode until the next episode with Ryan is edited and ready to post. The poem was inspired by Dr. Ray's experience realizing he was losing awareness. Think of the experience of meditating and suddenly realizing you're lost in a thought. This is that experience explained through poetry. So sit back and...

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26:53

A man can't get pregnant

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2024/11/26

In this episode, Dr. Ray breaks down why the phrase "a man can get pregnant" has no logical meaning. The crux of his argument is that the word man as it is used in that phrase has no informational content. This is because it's entirely based on self-identification which means that any person regardless of their characteristics and behavior can claim to be a man. This means the word must allow for all characteristics and behavior thus validating everything. And as we pointed ...

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50:57

Dr. Ray vs. Ray the computer science professor

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2024/11/19

In this episode, Dr. Ray argues with a computer science professor named Ray about our recent claims of objective ethics. After posting the episode "Making a case for objective ethics" on YouTube, we had some "constructive" criticism in the comment section. We were accused of many untoward things and Dr. Ray debated those claims with said accuser. This episode is an AI recitation of that conversation. Dr. Ray then critiques a particular portion of the conversation in wh...

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64:06

Grappling with incompleteness and the nature of...

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2024/11/11

In this episode of The Bottom Turtle Podcast, Dr. Ray recites another poem entitled "Inspiration from reading your thesis". As the name suggests, it was a poem inspired by reading the thesis of Reasonable Fideist; A friend of the podcast from reddit dating back to the episode "What Else is There?!". In the poem, Dr. Ray muses about the nature of the subjective and objective spirits and the relationship between them. The poem attempts to capture the tension between bein...

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4:12

To be conscious: A self analyzing algorithm loop

The Bottom Turtle Podcast ·

2024/11/10

If anyone is never at fault in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to keep his whole body in check. -James 3:2All kinds of animals, birds, reptiles and creatures of the sea are being tamed and have been tamed by man, but no man can tame the tongue. -James 3:7-8To be conscious is to have the capacity to make choices. It is the capacity to assert one's will. To bring into existence that which would not be without the exertion of one's will. It is to be in relationship with...

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57:49

Creating order beyond meta level zero

The Bottom Turtle Podcast ·

2024/10/29

In this episode of the podcast, Dr. Ray presents another ramble where he discusses creating order at deeper meta levels. In the Bottom Turtle language, meta level zero is the space of the obvious. This is the space where we draw our axiomatic truths to build a model of reality that everyone can verify. The resulting model is the language of the podcast. At meta level zero, obvious truths like throwing a wine bottle glass on the ground as hard as you can will cause it to shat...

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81:07

Making a Case for Objective Ethics

The Bottom Turtle Podcast ·

2024/10/22

In this episode, Dr. Ray and Ryan Scott present an argument for the objective truth of ethics. This episode builds on the previous two episodes of the season where the notion of identity is discussed and defined. Foundational to their arguments of identity is the dependent origination principle in Buddhism which is to say that one's identity is essentially determined by their relationships with each others, and their relationship with the eternal spirit whose name they want to claim.&nb...

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78:08

You are me, I am you

The Bottom Turtle Podcast ·

2024/10/14

Hello everyone and welcome back to the fourth season. In this episode, we continue our argument on the objective truth of ethics by further discussing the concept of identity. More specifically, we discuss the concept of a universal identity shared among individuals. For those familiar with the podcast, you'll be aware of the idea of macro- and micro-identities. A macro-identity is a distinguished by a label that points in the space of spirits like physicist or comedian for ...

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104:49

Language and Identity

The Bottom Turtle Podcast ·

2024/10/07

We're back! Welcome to the fourth season of The Bottom Turtle Podcast. In this season of the the podcast, we're shaking things up. First, this season will be focused on the theme of the objective truth of ethics and evil. That is, the goal of this season will be to present an objective argument for ethics, which then implies that evil is the opposite of the objective ethic. But to make this argument, we first have to clearly define identity and its relation to objectivity si...

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39:46

The Made in the Image of God Principle and the...

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2024/03/25

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