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Husband Material

So you want to outgrow porn. But how? How do you change your brain, heal your heart, and save your relationship? Welcome to Husband Material with Drew Boa, where we answer all these questions and more! Each episode makes it easier for you to achieve lasting freedom from porn—without fighting an exhausting battle. Porn is a pacifier. This podcast will help you outgrow it and become a sexually mature man of God.

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30:49

Why Men Need Men (with Tom Zuniga)

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2026/02/16

Men need men. In this episode, Tom Zuniga champions the value of brotherhood and "chosen family"—especially in a culture where romantic marriage seems like the only place where intimacy is possible. Tom shares his story of growing up feeling lonely and different, experiencing same-sex attraction, and discovering the beauty of following Jesus in community with other men. Tom Zuniga is the Director of Your Other Brothers, a community where Christian men are navigating matters of faith, sexualit...

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30:31

True Freedom From Porn (with Sathiya Sam)

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2026/02/09

In this episode, longtime friend of the podcast and author Sathiya Sam shares why porn recovery can literally save lives, what true freedom looks like (eternal, internal, and external) and practical advice on how to find purpose beyond porn. Sathiya Sam, founder of Deep Clean Coaching, helps men overcome pornography addiction, inspired by his own 15-year journey. Author of The Last Relapse and host of The Man Within, he has guided thousands of men to freedom. Learn more at sathiyasam.com To c...

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17:31

How To Prevent Relapse When You Flop

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2026/02/03

Do you know what it's like to feel numb, drained, and disconnected? This is the most common precursor to watching porn: the "flop" reaction. In this episode, you'll learn what the flop reaction is, why it's not necessarily bad, and three ways to navigate low-energy moments without crashing into a relapse. Strategy #1: Flop with a purpose Strategy #2: Flop with a friend Strategy #3: Flop with your body Support the show Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcas...

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27:32

Faithful Fitness (with Alex VanHouten)

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2026/01/26

How does physical fitness support sexual and spiritual health? In this episode, Alex VanHouten describes what it looks like to faithfully care for your body. You'll learn about the twin pitfalls of pride/envy and gluttony/sloth, how working out can help you process emotions and sexual urges, and what fitness is ultimately about: reclaiming the territory of your body for the kingdom of God. Alex VanHouten is an exercise scientist, health coach, and the founder of Faithful Fitness. With over 20...

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37:52

In The Low: Navigating Depression (with Justin...

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2026/01/19

If you're in a season of depression, darkness, or difficulty, please listen to this episode. Justin McRoberts and Scott Erickson offer deep wisdom on how to welcome all that is within you (yes, even that). This interview is punctuated by powerful poems and prayers for whatever "low" you might be going through. Justin McRoberts is the author of 8 books, including In The Low: Honest Prayers For Dark Seasons. He lives in Martinez, CA and talks with his mom every day. Connect with Justin at justi...

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29:13

All About HMA Triads (with Rich Savoy)

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2026/01/14

What are HMA Triads? What makes them different from accountability groups? Why is joining a small group essential for outgrowing porn? Rich Savoy explains everything you need to know about HMA Triads, what makes them different than porn accountability groups, and why you should consider joining one. Join HMA by January 18, 2026 at joinHMA.com. Rich Savoy is HMA's Director Of Small Groups. He is also a board member of Husband Material Ministries and an international speaker on emotional intell...

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80:26

How God Designed Your Brain To Heal Itself

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2026/01/13

God designed your brain to heal itself under the right conditions. How can we understand self-healing from a Christian perspective? What are the optimal conditions for self-healing? How can self-healing accelerate the process of outgrowing porn? In this episode, you'll not only get answers to these questions—you'll witness a powerful demonstration of Brainspotting with Drew Boa and Mike Chapman. This episode was recorded at the 2026 Porn Free Man Conference sponsored by Husband Material Acade...

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Experience Healing Through Brainspotting (with Dr....

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2026/01/05

What is Brainspotting? How can it help men heal and outgrow porn? Find out from Dr. David Grand himself! In this episode, you'll learn how Brainspotting works, why it's unique, and how it accelerates recovery from porn/sex addiction. David Grand, PhD is the developer of Brainspotting, the groundbreaking relational brain-body, mindfulness-based method. He is the author of Brainspotting: The Revolutionary New Therapy for Rapid and Effective Change and the co-author of This is Your Brain on Spor...

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99:38

K-Pop Demon Hunters: A Story Of Hiding And Healing

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2025/12/29

What can the movie "K-Pop Demon Hunters" teach us about shame, hiding, and healing through vulnerability and connection? In this extended episode, Drew and his friend Andy offer an in-depth analysis of the film—addressing theological concerns, highlighting takeaways for sexual recovery, and tracing each character's redemptive journey. Enjoy! Drew and Andy became friends at Wheaton College, serving together in college, church, and summer camp ministries. Andy has degrees in Christian theology ...

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38:30

When A Leader Relapses (with Nate Larkin)

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2025/12/22

In this incredibly vulnerable episode, Nate Larkin tells the story of how he returned to lying, hiding, binge drinking, and destructive sexual behavior while leading a sexual recovery organization. You'll also hear Nate's wisdom on how to be vulnerable as a leader and the importance of telling the truth. Nate Larkin is the founder of the Samson Society, a fellowship of Christian men who are serious about authenticity, community, humility, and recovery. Learn more at samsonsociety.com Buy Nate...

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54:52

Revealing The Future Of Husband Material Ministries

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2025/12/15

What’s next for Husband Material? In this episode, you’ll hear the exciting new vision for how we want to help the next generation of young men and couples change their brains, heal their hearts, and save their relationships. Here’s how you can be part of it: Pray: husbandmaterial.com/prayGive: husbandmaterial.com/giveSupport the show Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community Step 3: T...

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35:49

How Technology Can Help You Connect And Heal (with...

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2025/12/08

How can technology help you connect, heal, and outgrow porn? In this episode, Chandler Rogers tells his story of finding freedom through connection with others (even online) and shares what he has learned from overseeing hundreds of online groups. You'll find out what you're missing out on if you track your sobriety without tracking your recovery—and what healthy, shame-free accountability looks like. Chandler Rogers is the CEO and co-founder of Relay, a group-based program to break free from...

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14:52

The Villain, The Victim, and The Hero

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2025/12/01

How do you see yourself? Do you ever feel like a villain, like everything is your fault? Do you ever feel like a victim, overwhelmed and powerless to change your life? Do you ever feel like a hero, as if you have to succeed because the whole world is depending on you? Today, we’re talking about how to see yourself accurately and understand yourself better through three lenses: your villain story, your victim story, and your hero story. These categories are inspired by “The Karpman Drama Trian...

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38:01

Arousal, Addiction, And Intimacy (with Chris Chandler...

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2025/12/01

What exactly is arousal? Is it more than just sexual? In this episode, you'll learn the four types of arousal (uppers, downers, all-arounders, and deprivation) and how we use addiction to avoid intimacy ("into messy"). Along the way, you'll also find out why recovery is not a "don't touch your penis" program and how the skill of "tension holding" can transform your relationships. Great conversation! Chris Chandler (LMHC, LPCC, EMDR, CSAT-S) is a licensed therapist, coach, and Clinical Advisor...

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44:17

D.I.R.E.C.T. Psychodrama (with Dr. Doug Carpenter and...

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2025/11/17

In this episode, Doug and Drew explain their powerful, unique approach to psychodrama: DIRECT. You'll learn how this powerful modality can help you experience deeper healing and freedom from porn. D.I.R.E.C.T. = Dynamic, Intuitive, Redemptive, Embodied, Communal Transformation. Come experience D.I.R.E.C.T. at a Husband Material Healing Weekend! See all upcoming healing weekends and retreats at husbandmaterial.com/retreat January Healing Weekend in Florida: 4 spots left. Apply here. Marc...

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41:27

Sex Education For Adult Men (with Dr. Doug Carpenter)

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2025/11/10

Why do adult men need sex education? What sexual changes do men's bodies go through as we get older? In this episode, Dr. Doug Carpenter explains what men need to know about low testosterone, urinary flow, sperm production, and more. You'll learn about the importance of prostate exams, the truth about penis size, the difference between sex in porn vs. sex in marriage, and other common misconceptions men have about sex. Join us for sex education in person at the next Husband Material Retreat! ...

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65:58

Ten Ways To Regulate Without Porn (Grounding Techniques)

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2025/11/03

When you're triggered or tempted to watch porn, you cannot not regulate. What you can do is choose how you will regulate. In this episode, you'll learn ten powerful grounding techniques to regulate your brain and body without porn: Deep Breathing: Diaphragmatic (image)Power Breathing: Wim Hof Method (video)External Observation: 5-4-3-2-1 (image)Internal Observation: How We Feel (app)Ten Befriending Questions (PDF)Imagination: Visualize your inner worldCreativity: Be a creator, not a consumerM...

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37:24

Healing From Sex Trafficking (with Mike Chapman)

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2025/10/27

How does sex trafficking affect boys and men (not just girls and women) and what does healing look like? Hear Mike Chapman's incredible story. This episode is a taken from Mike's recent presentation, "Family-Controlled Sex Trafficking of Young Boys: One Survivor's Healing Journey" at the International Human Trafficking & Social Justice Conference. Mike Chapman is a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and family-controlled sex trafficking, and a survivor of sexual assault by clergy as a you...

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37:20

How To Reset Your Brain's Dopamine Levels (with Dr....

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2025/10/20

How does living in a drugified world affect our brains, and what can we about it? Renowned psychiatrist Anna Lembke vulnerably shares her own story of addiction to romance novels and erotica, how digital media hijacks our brains, and what freedom practically looks like. Along the way, you'll learn the meaning of dopamine fasting, self-binding strategies, and prosocial shame. Take notes! Dr. Anna Lembke is professor of psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine and chief of the Stanf...

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15:06

How To Evaluate Any Sexual Behavior

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2025/10/13

Have you ever wondered if certain sexual behaviors are okay? How do you decide what to believe and how to behave? In this episode, you'll learn 3 foundational principles of sexual ethics: integrity, intimacy, and impact. Looking for a safe place to talk about sensitive topics? Ask your questions in the Husband Material Community! Support the show Take the Husband Material Journey... Step 1: Listen to this podcast or watch on YouTube Step 2: Join the private Husband Material Community S...

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