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The Conversation Lab

Vancouver Co-op Radio

The Conversation Lab is a monthly radio program at CFRO FM in Vancouver. It airs on the last Saturday every month at 9am and its available on community and campus radio stations across Canada as well as on your favorite podcasting platform.My focus is on giving community groups, non-profit organizations, and changemakers a voice to talk about those things that are most important to them. Learning how to build bridges into different communities seems critical as we explore the uneven development of

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34:57

BC Election 2026: A Conversation with Elenore Sturko

The Conversation Lab ·

2026/10/01

Elenore Sturko has taken an unusual road to the 2026 British Columbia election.Before politics, she worked in broadcasting, served in the Canadian Armed Forces Reserve and spent more than a decade with the RCMP.She entered provincial politics in 2022 and, after a remarkable few years that took her through BC United, the BC Conservatives, a period as an Independent, and eventually CentreBC, she now finds herself leading the party into the October 24th provincial election.I joined her at home for a

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49:42

What can one small island tell us about the...

The Conversation Lab ·

2026/09/25

Bowen Island has a population of around 4,000 people and is a short ferry ride from Vancouver. But many of the questions confronting this small municipality will sound familiar far beyond its shores.How much housing do we need, and where should it go? How do communities accommodate growth while protecting the environment that attracted people there in the first place? What happens when aging infrastructure and limited water supplies collide with demands for more housing? How much can taxpayers

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40:08

Kirk LaPointe

The Conversation Lab ·

2026/08/19

I've known Kirk LaPointe for a long time—as a journalist, broadcaster, colleague and friend. But knowing someone's work isn't necessarily the same as knowing their story.In this conversation, we go back to Kirk's early life, his remarkable career in Canadian journalism, what he's learned about leadership and public life, and eventually, why he's decided to run for mayor of West Vancouver.It's less about the politics and more about the person behind the candidacy.

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44:41

What's an OCP?

The Conversation Lab ·

2026/06/10

Understanding an Official Community Plan (OCP)If you've ever wondered whether your children or grandchildren will be able to afford to live in your community, worried about housing, transportation, water, wildfire risk, climate change, traffic congestion, environmental protection, or simply what future generations will inherit, then you already have a stake in this conversation.While this episode focuses on Bowen Island where I live, the questions being discussed are the same ones facing communities

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43:18

Farhan Samir - A Reflection on Complexity and...

The Conversation Lab ·

2026/02/15

AI systems carry embedded worldviews. This isn’t a metaphor—it’s architecture. They inherit Western epistemologies, English-language biases, individualistic assumptions, capitalist logics, hetero-normative defaults, racialized categories, settler-colonial knowledge priorities, Silicon Valley’s belief in optimization and speed, and a particular moral grammar about what counts as “rational,” “true,” or “good.”This is a converstion with Farhan Samir that began in November as we graduated from UBC

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49:02

Jonathan Eaton - Disaster Preparedness

The Conversation Lab ·

2025/11/16

Dr Jonathan Eaton is the lead author of a new study that takes a deep dive into how Vancouver residents think about disaster preparedness. He talks about how disaster preparedness is about more than seismic retrofits, sandbags, or evacuation routes - It's about people, about how we understand risk and what we value, and how our sense of place, memory, and community shape the choices we make before the ground starts shaking.

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25:35

Jean Watson Final

The Conversation Lab ·

2025/08/29

Two years ago, I underwent open-heart surgery at St. Paul’s Hospital in Vancouver. What stayed with me, beyond the procedure itself, was the extraordinary level of care I received—from the cardiac team, nurses, and support staff. It felt deeply human, attentive, and intentional.When I later circled back to thank them, many of those I spoke with credited their approach to the teachings of Jean Watson. I was curious who was this person shaping how care is felt in a clinical setting?Jean Watson is a

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31:35

Liz Stewart - Neighbours United & Deep Canvassing

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2025/07/06

In this episode of Sticks & Stones, Roots & Bones, we sit down with Liz Stewart, a Defend Our Homes organizer with Neighbours United in British Columbia. Liz shares how deep canvassing, a powerful tool rooted in empathy and storytelling, is helping bridge divides in forestry towns where proposed biodiversity legislation is sparking debate.With curiosity and care, Liz opens up about what it means to meet people where they’re, the emotional weight of conversations across difference, and the

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44:02

Andrew J. Hoffman - Business School and the Noble...

The Conversation Lab ·

2025/04/02

Andy Hoffman is a distinguished professor at the University of Michigan, holding joint appointments at the Ross School of Business and the School for Environment and Sustainability. His work bridges two often disparate worlds—business and environmental stewardship—challenging the status quo by advocating for a new kind of capitalism, one rooted in moral purpose and long-term societal impact. His latest book, Business School and the Noble Purpose of the Market, offers a provocative vision for how

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51:38

Ian Williams - What I Mean to Say: Remaking...

The Conversation Lab ·

2024/12/26

Ian Williams is a poet, novelist, and essayist whose work explores themes of race, identity, and social complexity. Born in Trinidad and raised in Canada, Williams has developed a distinctive voice that combines lyrical sensitivity with sharp cultural insight. His debut novel, Reproduction, won the 2019 Giller Prize and was celebrated for its inventive structure and moving exploration of familial bonds across race and class. I was particularly looking forward to our discussion to talk about his

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42:56

barbara findlay - How Language Structures our...

The Conversation Lab ·

2024/07/26

barbara findlay is an old white cisgender queer lawyer with disabilities who was raised working-class and christian on the prairies. In this episode, we explore barbara's extensive career and contributions to social justice, her involvement in fighting against oppression, and her continuous advocacy work. The conversation touches on significant topics such as the challenges of navigating difficult conversations, the current wave of transphobia, and the profound impact of language on perception and

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54:54

Corey Nathan - Talkin' Politics & Religion Without...

The Conversation Lab ·

2024/02/12

Corey Nathan is the Executive Producer and Host of the Talkin Politics & Religion Without Killing Each Other podcast. In this podcast, we discuss the importance of words and conversations in various aspects of life.Corey Nathan shares his background as a stockbroker and theatre conservatory student, as well as his experiences as an entrepreneur and podcast producer. We emphasize the need to build bridges and have meaningful conversations with people who have different beliefs and perspectives

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45:30

Mayor Andrew Leonard, "We can't pull up the draw...

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2024/02/01

Bowen Island is a small island and municipality at the entrance to Howe Sound. It's connected to Vancouver and the rest of the Lower Mainland in British Columbia by a short ferry ride. Bowen Island residents are passionate about many things and its one of the many reasons I enjoy living here.Just over a year ago, we elected a new municipal council and in this podcast our Mayor (Andrew Leonard) talks about the challenges and opportunities on Bowen Island. Relevant because where most big cities are

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59:42

Nick Enfield - How We Talk

The Conversation Lab ·

2024/01/26

Nick Enfield is Professor of Linguistics a the University of Sydney and a co-director of the Sydney Centre for Language Research. His recent books include Languave versus Reality, Concequences of Language, and How We Talk. In this podcast Nick discusses the importance of language and its impact on conversations. He emphasizes the need to understand language in its broader context, including its cultural and societal implications. He challenges the idea that language is simply a tool for describing

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77:16

Vanessa Faloye - Holding space for liberation

The Conversation Lab ·

2023/12/16

Held is a partnership of facilitators, culture creators, and practitioners building a world liberated from oppressive systems, dynamics, and relationships. In this episode, one of their founders, Vanessa Faloye explains how with the help of co-founders, Alex and Pria, how they hold people, organizations and movements to build relational skills and cultural practices rooted in collective liberation. Our conversation highlights the need for improved communication and understanding about important

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44:09

Naomi Oreskes - The Big Myth

The Conversation Lab ·

2023/11/18

Naomi Oreskes is a Professor of the History of Science and the author or co-author of 9 books, 150 articles, essays and opinion pieces. In this episode we talk about the latest book that she worked on with Eric Conway, The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us to Loathe Government and Love the Free Market. If you want to know why we are so polarized and have so many differeing beliefs you shouldn't miss this episode and I think you'll love the book.

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57:02

Jason W. Moore - Zombie Capitalism, how it impacts...

The Conversation Lab ·

2023/11/05

In this episode of Sticks & Stones, Roots & Bones, Jason talks about the interconnectedness of environmental history, capitalism, and social theory and how it impacts our current social dynamic. He highlights the urgency of the planetary crisis, including climate change, biodiversity loss, and inequality. Moore emphasizes the need to understand history to address this present moment effectively. We talk about the impact of ideologies on various global issues, such as gender, race, religion,

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57:24

Tzeporah Berman - This Crazy Time!

The Conversation Lab ·

2023/10/25

Tzeporah Berman, an environmental activist and campaigner, talks about her work at Stand.earth and her role in campaigns to stop fracking, protect forests, and clean up the fashion industry. She emphasizes the need to replace fossil fuels and prevent their overproduction, as they contribute to climate change. Berman reflects on her journey as an activist and the challenges of finding common ground with different stakeholders.Our conversation explores the importance of understanding different

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38:30

Wendy Smith - Both/And Thinking

The Conversation Lab ·

2023/10/18

In this episode Wendy and I talk about the concept of paradox and its relevance to organizational dynamics and personal decision-making. We talk about the importance of recognizing that beliefs and values are shaped by historical context and influence our perception of the world. They emphasize the need to focus on what is right and find transformative moments to navigate the future differently. Wediscuss the importance of addressing significant issues through dialogue and understanding rather than

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73:51

Connie Zwieg - Shadow making happens in famlies and...

The Conversation Lab ·

2023/09/29

This episode includes two conversations with Connie Zweig. One in August 2023 on Zoom and the other on the phone in the summer of 2017. Connie's work deals with the hidden power of the dark side of human nature and we talk about how the shadow affects us.

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