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Second Verse

🎙 Second Verse – Because it’s never too late to make music. Are you an indie artist or creative dreaming of a second chance at your music career? Second Verse is the podcast that celebrates independent musicians, singer-songwriters, and artists who got started—or started again—after a more traditional career. Join host Becky Boyland, a singer-songwriter and music branding expert, as she interviews indie artists who prove that success isn’t just for the young and major-label backed. Each episode

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18:49

Small Steps, Big Impact: Building Your Creative...

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2025/11/11

Building Confidence Through Small Steps: Insights from Second Verse PodcastIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland emphasizes the importance of building confidence through small steps. She shares personal experiences, including a transformative songwriting retreat in Scotland. Becky highlights how taking minor actions can snowball into greater self-assurance. Featuring stories from past guests like Ben Kintisch, Kelly Hastings, Greig Watts, and Chris Evans, she illustrates how simple,

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19:13

How to Bring Others into Your Ecosystem:...

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2025/11/04

The Power of Collaboration for Indie ArtistsIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland explores the transformative power of collaboration for indie musicians. She breaks down why working together is crucial, not just in co-writing or production, but also in building community and maintaining accountability. Becky shares her own experiences and provides a step-by-step guide on how to find and foster successful creative partnerships. The episode concludes with her top six benefits of

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22:34

How to Build a Creative Ecosystem

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2025/10/28

Building Your Creative Ecosystem: Nurturing Sustainable Artistry for Indie MusiciansIn this episode of Second Verse, hosted by Becky Boyland, indie music artists are guided on how to create and nurture a creative ecosystem that supports sustainable artistry. Sponsored by Attitude Creativity, the episode covers the importance of establishing an effective website and brand messaging. Becky emphasizes moving from clarity about one's artistic message to building a supportive environment that fosters

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20:51

How to Clarify Your Message as an Artist

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2025/10/21

Clarify Your Message as an Indie Artist: Practical Steps for SuccessThis episode of Second Verse, sponsored by Attitude Creativity, delves into the importance of clarity for indie music artists. The host discusses how having a clear message can help artists stand out and connect with their audience, emphasizing the need for consistent brand messaging across their website and social platforms. She offers three practical steps to craft a clear message: defining a one-liner that captures the essence of

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18:59

Imposter Syndrome and How to Push Through It

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2025/10/14

https://youtu.be/snCA8bN_M5AOvercoming Imposter Syndrome: Embracing Your Creative JourneyIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland explores the impacts of imposter syndrome on indie music artists and the ways it hinders their creative journeys. Becky shares her personal stories and insights from interviews with fellow artists to shed light on the pervasive nature of doubt as they navigate their second act in music. The episode delves into mindset challenges, offering three practical

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48:57

From Law to Lyrics: Steven McDonald's Music Renaissance

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2025/10/07

https://youtu.be/o1OxfMM-rIcCrafting a Musical Journey: Steven McDonald's Return to SongwritingIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky welcomes songwriter and lawyer Steven McDonald from Edinburgh, Scotland. They explore his musical journey, starting from his early influences in a musically rich family to his pandemic-driven return to songwriting. Steven shares insights on balancing his legal career with his music passion, the significance of physical music formats, and the value of

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58:53

Healing Waters & Profitable Paths: Bree Noble’s...

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2025/09/30

https://youtu.be/vMHK04GMNpkRediscovering Dreams: Bree Noble's Journey from Finance to Music EntrepreneurshipIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland interviews Bree Noble, a singer-songwriter who transitioned from being a finance director at an opera company to founding Women of Substance Radio. Bree shares her experience of pivoting from a corporate career to pursuing her passion for music, emphasizing the importance of confidence, community, and treating art as a business. She

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01:01:09

Life, Death & Music: Benjamin Kintisch’s Journey to...

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2025/09/23

https://youtu.be/tJKaNe4EFDcFinding Harmony in Hospice: Benjamin Kintisch's Journey with Life Review: The Hospice MusicalIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland speaks with Benjamin Kintisch, a chaplain, music teacher, and cantor, about his transformation from a cantor to the creator of Life Review: The Hospice Musical. Kintisch shares how chaplaincy experiences shaped his musical, emphasizing music as a medium for healing and connection. The discussion covers imposter syndrome, the

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01:09:18

From Almost Signed to Fully Called: Bryan Boliver’s...

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2025/09/16

Trusting the Long Winding Road with Bryan Boliver: Embracing Creativity and Faith in MusicIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland speaks with Bryan Boliver, a singer-songwriter, worship leader, producer, and content creator. Bryan shares his inspiring journey from rock band dreams to worship ministry and full-time music production, emphasizing the importance of enjoying the craft of creating. The discussion highlights overcoming perfectionism, the role of technology in enhancing

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02:57

Second Verse’s Second Verse: It’s the Podcast’s Season 2

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2025/09/09

Becky Boyland, singer-songwriter and marketing strategist, introduces Season 2 of her podcast Second Verse, which explores the stories of indie artists rediscovering their passion for music. The podcast features resilient musicians transitioning to new chapters, including those who balanced artistry with motherhood, teaching, business, and more. Season 2 delves deeper into personal experiences such as an artist finding his calling and a songwriter inspired by hospice care. Becky also shares her own

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26:41

The Journey Back to Music: A Season 1 Celebration

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2025/07/08

https://youtu.be/OQVWCmM24K4Finding Your Second Verse: Stories of Returning to Music Against All OddsIn this special episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland celebrates the completion of season one by revisiting powerful moments from the podcast. With inspiring stories from artists like Adassa, Kelly Hastings, Rick Molloy, and many more, Becky explores the journeys of musicians who returned to their passion after facing life-changing challenges. From vocal paralysis to career shifts, these

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57:38

Achieving Music One String at a Time: Ryan Pryor,...

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2025/07/01

Rediscovering Musical Joy with Ryan Pryor of Inglewood InstrumentsIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland sits down with Ryan Pryor, Founder of Inglewood Instruments and creator of the Cumberland dulcimer guitar. Ryan shares his unique journey from studying music in college to pivoting through various careers before discovering a new passion for designing instruments. Listen in as they discuss the importance of making music accessible, the process of instrument innovation, and how trying

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47:16

Kelly Hastings on Motherhood, Mental Health, and...

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2025/06/24

Kelly Hastings: Reclaiming Dreams, Embracing Music, and Raising Mental Health AwarenessIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland converses with Kelly Hastings, a resilient singer-songwriter and mother of six, who reached the semi-finals on The Voice UK in 2023 and competed in Y Llais (the Welsh version of The Voice). Kelly shares her inspiring journey of returning to music after raising her children, the empowering experience of pursuing dreams later in life, and the healing power of

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33:46

Wired Differently: How Neurodivergence Fuels the...

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2025/06/17

Unmasking the Hidden Superpower: Neurodivergence and Creativity in MusicIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland dives deep into how neurodivergence, particularly ADHD, manifests in the lives of artists and why it is often a hidden superpower. Becky shares her personal journey of navigating ADHD, from the initial chaotic symptoms to the profound sense of relief and empowerment upon getting a diagnosis. The episode explores the intersection of neurodivergence and creativity, illustrating

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51:34

Just Start: How David Rosen Built a Life in Music,...

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2025/06/10

From Vinyl to Film Scores: How David Rosen Found His Musical CallingIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with David Rosen, a versatile indie artist whose journey spans from growing up in a family-owned record store to producing rap music, composing film scores, and creating comedy rock about his pets. David shares the importance of letting one creative endeavor fuel another, and reveals insights into building long-term collaborative relationships. From using different DAWs to

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54:36

Singing His Song: Phil Lovell’s Journey from Welsh...

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2025/06/03

Phil Lovell: From Classroom to Songwriting - A Journey of Creativity and PersistenceIn this episode of Second Verse, host Becky Boyland chats with Phil Lovell, a retired teacher turned songwriter who crafts thoughtful songs in English and Welsh. Phil shares his journey from nurturing his musical passion quietly while working in education for over 30 years to diving fully into songwriting and performing after retirement. They discuss Phil’s creative process, the impact of music on culture, the

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49:25

Building Momentum: The Art of Saying Yes with Music...

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2025/05/27

Finding Success by Saying Yes: Greig Watts' Journey from Banking to Hit SongwritingIn this episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland interviews Greig Watts, a music publisher and songwriting mentor who transitioned from a career in banking to co-founding DWB Music. Watts shares his inspiring journey of pursuing his passion for music, the importance of mentorship, and the power of saying 'yes' to opportunities. He discusses developing and guiding songwriters, the significance of being

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01:02:42

Chris Evans of AudioGust: Why It’s Time to Start,...

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2025/05/20

Hooky Anthems and Disenchanted Optimists: Chris Evans Finds Joy in Music's Second ActJoin host Becky Boyland on the Second Verse podcast as she chats with Chris Evans, an alt/indie rock artist, songwriter, and producer known as AudioGust. Dive into Chris's fascinating journey from '80s rock bands to a successful software career and back to music. Learn how he built his own soundproof studio, released over three dozen songs, and collaborates with artists worldwide. Chris shares valuable insights on

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55:48

Rebuilding My Voice: Becky Boyland’s Vocal Cord...

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2025/05/13

Healing Through Music: Overcoming Vocal Trauma with Guest Whitney NicholeIn this deeply personal episode, host Becky Boyland shares her compelling journey of overcoming vocal trauma following major spine surgery. Initially facing the terrifying possibility of never singing again due to a paralyzed vocal cord, Becky describes the emotional and physical challenges she faced. She highlights the pivotal role of vocal coach Whitney Nichole, who introduced Becky to transformative techniques like straw

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59:26

From FBI Agent to Music Maven: Tia Hoffer’s...

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2025/05/06

From FBI Agent to Music Composer: Tia Hoffer's JourneyIn this episode of the Second Verse podcast, host Becky Boyland interviews Tia Hoffer, who has successfully transitioned from being an FBI Special Agent to a production music composer. They discuss Tia's early love for music, her fascinating career in psychology and law enforcement, and the mindset shifts that led her to pursue a music career later in life. Tia shares insights on the importance of starting imperfectly, protecting creative energy,

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