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Extraordinary Creatives

Extraordinary Creatives: The Premier Art Podcast Welcome to the Extraordinary Creatives podcast, your gateway to the world of exceptional artists and creative leaders who have defied the odds to make a significant impact in the arts and beyond. Hosted by Ceri Hand, creative coach, curator, and seasoned arts and business insider, this podcast offers a wealth of insights into art and creativity through in-depth interviews. Ceri’s extensive experience and genuine passion for the arts make every

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8:43

When Your Brain Says, “I Don’t Know How” (It’s Lying)

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2026/03/19

When your brain says - I don’t know who would buy this, I don’t know where to find them. I don’t know how this would ever work, it is lying to you.What if “I don’t know how” isn’t a fact. What if its anxiety dressed up as logic. What if your brain is quietly converting uncertainty into impossibility. Once that story settles, you stop try. You don´t need to test formats. You don´t need to ask different questions. You don´t need to risk being wrong. If this sounds familiar, you are not alone. In

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Building a Visual Language of Colour and Symbols with...

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2026/03/16

Today I’m in conversation with the extraordinary Sarah Boris, an artist who treats symbols like building blocks and colour like architecture.Her practice moves between sculpture, drawing, printmaking, painting, and bookmaking, yet everything she makes feels connected by a rigorous, playful logic. You migaht know her Fragile UK Flag, a reimagined Union Jack made from delicate tape and paper, exhibited at the Design Museum in London and now held in major public collections including the Stedelijk

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13:20

How Artist Websites Quietly Lead to Sales, Enquiries...

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2026/03/12

If you’ve listened to the last couple of shorty episodes, you’ll know we’ve been talking about structure. What should be on your website. What can go. And how clarity does far more work than cleverness. So today, I want to talk about what often happens next. Once your website is clear, calm, and coherent, something interesting starts to happen. Sales begin to trickle in. Enquiries land in your inbox. Commissioners get in touch. Brands reach out. Often quietly, often weeks or months after someone

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Making Ambitious Work is Never Just About Ideas with...

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2026/03/09

In today’s episode of the Extraordinary Creatives podcast, I’m joined by the inspiring Alexandra Daisy Ginsberg, whose work sits at the intersection of art, ecology, and emerging technologies. Daisy’s work explores the politics, value systems, and assumptions that shape how humans relate to the natural world. Her projects range from algorithmically designed gardens created for pollinators, to resurrecting the smell of extinct flowers, and translating living systems into materials such as tapestry

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15:28

What Should Definitely Be on Your Artist Website

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2026/03/05

Today, Ceri moves to the next step of the artist website journey. Once you’ve selected the work and gathered the words, the question becomes: what should definitely be on the website? And just as importantly, what should not. Most artist websites don’t fail because they’re missing things; they fail because they’re overloaded with too many pages, projects, and text and no clear entry point. Your website is not a storage unit - it’s a guided experience. You are leading someone through your work,

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92:57

Building a Creative Career That Doesn’t Burn You Out...

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2026/03/02

Today’s guest is Rob Lowe, also known as Supermundane, an artist, illustrator, writer, and public speaker whose work uses geometric shapes, colour, pattern, and words to create playful, philosophical, and deeply generous work.With a background in graphic design and over 30 years working across the creative world, Rob has moved fluidly between indie magazine design, publishing, murals, community-led projects, and major global commissions, including designing the influential magazines Anorak and

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10:43

Why Artist Websites Still Matter and How to Make...

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2026/02/26

Despite what we’re told, websites are not obsolete. Curators still look at them. Gallerists still look at them. Collectors still look at them. Commissioners still look at them. Quietly. Carefully. Often before they ever contact you. Your website is where people go when they’re deciding whether to take you seriously. Social media shows momentum. Websites show coherence. If your website feels overwhelming, messy, neglected, or like a project you keep putting off, that doesn’t mean you’re behind. It

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98:43

An Invitation to Work Relationally, Make Space For...

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2026/02/23

What if artists aren’t here to fix the world, but to reveal what’s really going on inside it.In this episode of Extraordinary Creatives, I’m joined by Filipa Ramos, a curator, writer, and educator whose work reframes art not as commentary on ecology, but as an ecological practice in itself. Filipa is Artistic Director of LOOP Festival Barcelona, Lecturer at the Academy of Art and Design in Basel, and the author of The Artist as Ecologist, Contemporary Art, and the Environment. In this

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9:13

How to Get the Things You’re Avoiding Done

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2026/02/19

Today, Ceri talks to those of you who know exactly what they need to do but still can’t quite bring themselves to do it. Not because you don’t care. Not because you’re incapable. But because the task feels loaded. It might be an email you keep rewriting. A proposal you keep circling. A conversation you know you need to have. You stay busy. You prepare. You research. You tweak. And somehow the hardest thing never quite gets done. It’s a common experience for so many of the artists Ceri works

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73:49

Creative Longevity, Instinct and Building a Practice...

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2026/02/16

Today’s episode brings together two extraordinary creatives whose work has helped shape contemporary culture through a shared commitment to curiosity, counterculture, and championing unique voices.Ceri is joined by sisters Francesca Gavin and Seana Gavin, each working across different mediums but united by a belief in following instinct and staying close to what feels urgent and alive. Francesca is one of the most influential figures shaping how contemporary art is written about and presented

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14:04

Selling From One-Off Events: Designing Afterlives for...

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2026/02/12

There is something quietly brutal about making work that only exists for a day. You build it. You rehearse it. You hold your nerve. The room fills. The moment happens -And then everyone goes home. You are left standing in the afterglow asking a question most artists feel ashamed to ask. How does something this ephemeral actually support my life? Not just my reputation. Not just my sense of meaning. My ability to keep making work. Today, Ceri talks about how one-off events, performances, and live

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81:41

What It Takes to Build an Art World Artists Can...

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2026/02/09

Today, I am joined by Marcel Baettig, artist, cultural leader, and founder and CEO of Bow Arts, one of London’s most influential arts and education charities. Over three decades, Marcel has quietly built a values-led social enterprise that provides affordable studios and housing for artists, reaches tens of thousands of young people, and continually reinvests in local communities.This conversation isn’t just about scale or success. It´s about precarity, why artists need infrastructure as much as

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9:11

Should You Quit Your Job to Be an Artist?

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2026/02/05

Welcome to episode 179 of the Extraordinary Creatives podcast - Should You Quit Your Job to Be an Artist? There’s a moment every artist fantasises about. The email sent. The notice handed in. The clean break. Finally, time, headspace, freedom. But more time doesn’t automatically mean better work. Sometimes it means more fear. So, Should you give up your full-time job to pursue your art? Not in theory. Not in Instagram-caption wisdom. But in real life, with real nervous systems, real rent, real

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102:29

Trust Yourself - Do The Work First, Worry About...

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2026/02/02

Today’s episode is with the extraordinary Eva Sajovic, an artist whose art works provoke questions about labour, value, and exchange. We talk about how growing up with her grandma in the countryside in Slovenia shapes not just what she makes, but how she makes it and how that early encounter with political rupture still informs her resistance to spectacle, speed, and extractive systems. We unpack the emotional, ethical, and practical labour beneath participatory work, and talk candidly about

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Working Towards Co-representation - Things to Aim...

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2026/01/29

Today we’re getting into co-representation, the realities of working with more than one gallery, and how to navigate it without damaging the relationships you’ve worked so hard to build. You’ve built a body of work that has momentum. You’ve shown commitment to your gallery. You’ve done the shows, the fairs, the dinners, the follow-ups. And now you feel ready to build internationally. Not as a vanity move. Not because you’re bored. But because your work feels ready to travel, and because you

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97:33

Art Beyond Identity and Authorship with David Horvitz

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2026/01/26

This week’s podcast guest is the extraordinary David Horvitz, an artist whose work has been exhibited at and collected by major institutions around the world.Witty, poetic, and nomadic, David’s work traverses photography, artist books, performance, mail art, sound, the internet, food, and natural environments, engaging systems of language, time, and networks. We talk about why artists should resist being burdened by identity or authorship, what it means to let work travel without you, why erasure

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Regulation Is a Creative Skill: Why anxiety keeps...

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2026/01/22

Regulation is a creative skill - Anxiety keeps artists busy but stops them finishing. In the last episode, Ceri talked about the fact that you can't make work from a dysregulated life, that no amount of studio time will compensate for exhaustion, financial stress, unresolved anxiety, or a nervous system that never properly settles. Today, she goes a level deeper explaining why even when life is relatively stable, dysregulation still shows up inside the work itself, which is where a lot of artists

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How Collectors Really Make Decisions with Beth Greenacre

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2026/01/19

Today I’m joined by the brilliant Beth Greenacre, a curator, advisor, and art consultant whose career has unfolded quietly but powerfully at the centre of the art world. Beth began working with David Bowie in her twenties and went on to oversee the care, exhibition, and eventual sale of his collection, revealing a deeply personal way of looking, collecting and living with art.Since then, she’s built a long-term, trust-led portfolio career advising private collectors, working with artists and

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The Studio Won’t Save You: You Can’t Make Deep Work...

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2026/01/15

There’s a romantic idea that if you just shut the door, block the world out, and push through, the work will save you. That you can white-knuckle your way through exhaustion, anxiety, financial stress, hangovers, through everything else falling apart. For a while, maybe you can - willpower is powerful, but it is not infinite. Ceri regularly see artists trying to dominate their minds instead of supporting their nervous systems. Trying to overpower negative thoughts instead of changing the conditions

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Enchantment as Practice: Making Slow Work in a Fast...

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2026/01/12

Sophie Coryndon learned early that craft is not decoration, but devotion, time, patience, skill, and care. Her work sits confidently outside conventional categories, moving between art and craft, history, and contemporary imagination. This conversation is about enchantment in a disenchanted world, about beauty as a serious subject, about what it means to make work slowly with your hands, at a time when speed and visibility are rewarded above all else. We also talk openly about Sophie's experience

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