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PA the FI Way

Becoming a physician assistant (PA) is difficult. But becoming a PA on the way to financial independence (FI) shouldn’t be. Allow the PA the FI Way podcast to be your guide to becoming a physician assistant on the way to financial independence. Unfortunately, even basic personal finance and budget concepts are rarely taught in high school, college or PA school. Then once PA students become certified physician assistants and begin their professional journey practicing medicine, they

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167 | Decluttering Your Way to Freedom: How to...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/10/31

In this episode, I’m sharing what I’ve been learning firsthand as I declutter and prepare for the upcoming sale of our house, and how this process has completely reshaped the way I think about freedom, finances, and fulfillment. I’ve realized how much the things we own can quietly drain our time, energy, and even money.I’ll cover somehelpfuldecluttering principles that my husband and I have recently implemented as we gradually move toward a more minimalistic lifestyle, including the 20/20

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166 | Top 10 Things NOT to Spend Your Money On as a...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/10/17

You work way too hard for your money to waste it. Between charting after hours, missing family dinners, and grinding through long shifts, every dollar you earn should be buying back your freedom, not fueling burnout. In this episode of PA the FI Way, Kat breaks down the Top 10 Things NOT to Spend Your Money On as a Healthcare Provider,the sneaky traps that drain your wallet, energy, and joy while pretending to make life easier or more rewarding.From MLM “opportunities” that prey on

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165 | The Energy Audit: Spend Your Energy Wisely

PA the FI Way ·

2025/10/03

We often talk about money as currency, but what about energy? Every meeting,obligation, and habit in your day is either giving you energy or draining it. If you have ever ended the day feeling depleted, even when your calendar did not look that full, you have probably been spending your energy without realizing it.In this episode, we walk through how to perform your own energy audit so you can gain clarity on what truly fuels you and what quietly drains you. We will cover the emotional

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41:46

164 | Holistic Wellness and Burnout Healing with...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/09/19

On today’s episode, Kat sits down with Mercedes and Jessica, psychiatry PAs and hosts of PA Mindset Matters podcast, to talk about holistic wellness and burnout healing for PAs and medical providers. From lifestyle habits to mindset shifts to money stress, this conversation is full of practical tools providers can start using right away to feel more balanced and resilient.Connect with Mercedes and Jessica with PA Mindset Matters: Website:www.pamindset.com Listen to PA Mindset Matters

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163 | Pause to Heal: How Sabbaticals Can Beat...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/09/05

Burnout is all too common in healthcare, but what if the solution isn’t pushing through... it’s pressing pause? In this episode,we sit down with Leigha Barbieri, PA-C, to talk about the transformative power of taking a sabbatical.Leigha shares her own story of moving from exhaustion to renewal, including howprioritizing her mental health, traveling around the world, and resting intentionally helped her reconnect with her purpose. She opens up about the challenges of stepping away from her

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162 | How and When to Find a Financial Planner You...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/08/22

In this episode, I sit down with Caleb Pepperday, CFP®, ChFC®, fee-only fiduciary financial planner and founder of Advanced Practice Planning, to discuss financial planning for physician associates and other healthcare professionals.Caleb shares what drew him to work with PAs and other APPs, and how his dual designations as a Certified Financial Planner and Chartered Financial Consultant give him a unique perspective when guiding clients toward financial independence. He also breaks down

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161 | Refuel, Redesign, Reclaim: 20 Tips for a...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/08/08

Whether you’re a brand-new grad just stepping into the world of medicine, a mid-career clinician who still loves the work but feels the wear and tear, or someone laser-focused on retiring early to reclaim your time—this episode is for you.No matter your path, one thing is true: medicine is demanding. And if you want to make it sustainable—whether for 5 more years or 45 more years—you need a strategy to protect your energy, your well-being, and your freedom. Today, we’re diving into 20

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160 | Under-Celebrated Financial Milestones That...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/07/25

What if the most important steps on your financial journey aren’t the big flashy ones—but the small, quiet wins you hardly notice? In this episode, we’re shining a light on the under-celebrated financial milestones that deserve just as much recognition as paying off yourstudent loan debt or hitting six figures in your retirement account.From paying off your first credit card to setting up automatic savings, these small victories build confidence, create momentum, and transform your mindset

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159 | Retire Often: Mini Retirements for Burnout...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/06/27

Why work for 40 years and only retire once? What if you could step away more than once—not to quit, but to live more fully and intentionally?In this episode, author and host of Retire Often podcast, Jillian Johnsrud, joins me to share insights from her new book, Retire Often, which is now available for pre-order. She introduces the powerful concept of mini retirements—intentional pauses from work that can lead to deep burnout recovery, personal growth, and a more fulfilling, values-aligned

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158 | The Power of Microhabits: Tiny Changes That...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/06/13

Wanting to make changes, but feeling too overwhelmed and exhausted to start? You’re not alone—and you don’t need a complete life overhaul to start feeling better. In this episode,I'm diving into the science and simplicity of microhabits: tiny, 2-minute actions that help you regain control of your time, energy, and mental clarity—without adding to your to-do list.Drawing from insights in Atomic Habitsand lived experience on the frontlines of healthcare, I’ll walk you through how low

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157 | Rhythmic Renewal: How 5-Minute Pauses Can...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/05/30

In this episode, the concept of rhythmic renewal is explored, which is the practice of building intentional, restorative pauses into your day to protect your energy and prevent burnout. You’ll learn how to implement a timing model that works well for your schedule, create your own personalized renewal menu, and discover simple ways to reset—even in the busiest clinical or hospital settings. These small, consistent rhythms of self-care can help you renew your energy, show up with greater

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156 | Say No to the Yes Trap: The Boundary-Setting...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/05/16

Feeling stretched too thin? Saying “yes” when you want to say “no” is one of the fastest tracks to burnout—especially in healthcare. In this episode, I dive into The Yes Trap and unpack why learning to say “no” isn’t just a nice-to-have, it’s a power skill that protects your time, energy, and sanity. You’ll also learn 11 practical types of “no" that you can start implementing today, real-world boundary-setting scripts, and how to push back gracefully without guilt. Be sure to grab the free

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155 | The Ultimate Guide to Saving Money on Travel

PA the FI Way ·

2025/05/02

Love to travel but hate overspending? In this episode,I'm diving into practical, low-effort ways to stretch your travel budget without sacrificing fun or comfort. Whether you're planning a weekend road trip, a CME conference, or an international adventure, these tips will help you save on flights, lodging, food, and activities—so you can travel on budget while reaching your financial goals.I'll cover smart booking strategies and money-saving hacks for accommodations and meals. You’ll also

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154 | Imposter Syndrome in Medicine: How to Spot It,...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/04/18

If you’ve ever questioned whether you really belong inmedicine — even with the credentials, experience, and evidence to prove it — this episode is for you. Imposter syndrome shows up quietly but powerfully in medicine, often pushing high-achieving providers to overwork, downplay their success, and silently burn out. Today, we're unpacking what imposter syndrome really is, how it shows up throughout your career, and the five types that Dr. Valerie Young identified (yes, you'll probably see

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153 | Spring Cleaning Your Finances in 10 Steps

PA the FI Way ·

2025/04/04

Spring cleaning isn’t just for your home—your finances need a refresh too! If you’re tired of cluttered accounts, surprise tax bills, or money slipping through the cracks, this episode is the reset button you need. We’re walking you through 10 simple (and actually doable) steps to get your financial life in order. From canceling useless subscriptions and automating your savings to organizing your accounts, we’re covering all the ways to tidy up your money and make it work smarter for

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152 | The Skill of Spending: How to Shift From...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/03/21

Frugality is a powerful tool for paying off debt, allowing you to cut unnecessary expenses, focus on essentials, develop discipline, and accelerate financial freedom. However, staying frugal for too long can lead to a scarcity mindset, making it hard to enjoy your money even after paying off your debt and achieving stability. While being frugal for a season helps you break free from debt, true financial freedom comes from learning to spend intentionally on what truly matters in your

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151 | Back to Basics: HYSAs and Emergency Funds

PA the FI Way ·

2025/03/07

Want to make yoursavings work harder for you without lifting a finger? In this episode, we’retaking it back to basics and discussingHigh-Yield Savings Accounts (HYSAs)—what they are, why they matter, and how they can help you grow your emergency fund and sinking funds faster than a traditional savings account. If your money is sitting in a regular savings account earning pennies, it’s time to upgrade!I’ll cover why HYSAs are a game-changer for savings, how to use them strategically for

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150 | The PA Pivot: Walking Away from Burnout in...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/02/07

In this episode, we sit down with McKenna Morgan, PA-C, who has navigated multiple specialties and career transitions while pursuing financial independence (FI).McKenna shares insights from their journey, starting with early financial lessons learned from her family that included playing the board gameCashflow.We explore how shestrategically tackled $168K in student loan debt after graduatingfrom PA school.Through intentional lifestyle choices and a commitment to financial literacy,McKenna

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149 | Purposeful Prosperity: Giving Back Through a...

PA the FI Way ·

2025/01/24

In this episode, wemeet Johanna Moses, PA-C, aninspiring guest who shares her journey of starting a nonprofit organization. On your way to financial independence, maybe you've considered which type of nonprofit organization you would like to start or donate your time or wealth to. Doing so would allow your wealth to have purpose and impact for the causes you caredeeply about.Johannais the Founder of a 501(c) 3 nonprofit, The Ephraim Foundation International, an organization whose mission

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148 | The Purpose Code: Interview with Jordan Grumet, MD

PA the FI Way ·

2025/01/10

What is my purpose in life? That is a BIG and heavy question that most of us will ask- often many times throughout our lives!Today’s returning guest, Jordan Grumet, MD,sharesabouthis new book, The Purpose Code: How to Unlock Meaning, Maximize Happiness, and Leave a Lasting Legacy.He reviewsthe difference between "big P" Purpose and "little p" purpose, and howpursuing (P)urpose often leads to anxiety and disillusionment while pursuing (p)urpose will lead to connection and lasting

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