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There’s No Business Like...

THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week. Learn more at https://nobusinesslike.com

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Ep 182 Vikas Arun: We Don’t Do This for the Money

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2026/04/01

Ep 182 Vikas Arun: We Don’t Do This for the MoneyThis week Vikas Arun of Project Convergence gives us a bit of a behind-the-scenes look at the life of a professional dancer. Katie dives into Vikas’s varied resume, including his time performing with the New York cast of STOMP, as well as working on So You Think You Can Dance. Vikas Arun (www.vikasarun.com) is a professional dancer based in Seattle and New York, blending Western and Indian percussive dance styles with his company Project Convergence

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Ep. 181 – Opera, Ballet, and Their Public Perception

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2026/03/25

Ep. 181 – Opera, Ballet, and Public PerceptionThis week our hosts dive into the discussion around the comments of Timothee Chalamet. They question the relevance of some of the traditional arts like opera and ballet to the overall general public. They further question in what ways those classic art forms can gain more relevance to the general populous. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic

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NBL Rewind: David Rowell: Inspiring the Next Generation

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2026/03/18

NBL Rewind: David Rowell: Inspiring the Next Generation As colleges and universities are on Spring Break, we are taking a Spring Break of our own and rewinding to episode 72, highlighting a (now former) university presenter and his students. Our hosts talk about times they said, “never again,” and then totally did again. This week Bryan sits down with David Rowell, an amazing educator and mentor in the industry. David shares his introduction to the arts, clown ministry, his incredible career,

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Ep. 179 Are the Arts a Luxury?

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2026/03/11

Ep. 179 Are the Arts a Luxury?As the State of Michigan considers a 6% luxury tax, which includes the performing arts, Josh, Kevin, and Pure Michigan Katie Trzaska-Miller, consider the impact and ask, have the arts become a luxury? Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

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Ep. 178 Project Convergence: The Rhythm of Collaboration

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2026/03/04

Ep. 178 Project Convergence: The Rhythm of CollaborationKatie sits down with Vikas Arun and Apoorva Natarajan, co-directors of the American dance company Project Convergence, home to the union of Bharatanatyam and American tap dance. A chance conversation at the Midwest Arts XPO led to this discussion about the state of dance in the presenting field, marketing for artists, and the challenges of conferencing and showcasing for artists. Vikas Arun and Apoorva Natarajan and the co-directors of Project

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Ep. 177 Under the Radar Festival: The Edgy Side of...

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2026/02/25

Ep. 177 Under the Radar Festival: The Edgy Side of TheaterJosh and Kevin sit down to discuss their experience with the Under the Radar Festival in NYC. They share what the festival is, what they did, and more. They also talk about a show outside of the festival, GREEF, a one-woman clown show. GREEF is a show by Christina Gelsone. Link to a post about the show: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1DATAzngiF/ Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions

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Ep. 176 Willem Van Der Maij: Making Solo Show...

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2026/02/18

Ep. 176 Willem Van Der Maij: Making Solo Show Production EasierToday Bryan sits down with Willem Van Der Maij; the Founder, inventor, and managing director of Midian, a company that produces the Midian Prime – a wireless remote multi function midi control device. Hear how this device makes live performance easier for solo gig artists. Learn more at https://www.midian.live Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is

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Ep. 175 Hot Headlines: Trump-Kennedy Center Closing?

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2026/02/11

Ep. 175 Hot Headlines: Trump-Kennedy Center Closing?Katie, Josh, and Kevin talk about the President posting about closing the Trump-Kennedy Center for two years for “renovations,” and funding of the NEA, among other topics, because you can’t talk about a Presidential social media post without diving into the state of America. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

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Ep. 174 APAP Recap 2026

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2026/02/04

Ep. 174 APAP Recap 2026The Pod Squad takes NYC in this episode where they met up while attending the APAP 2026 Conference. Conferences are a big undertaking for organizations and attendees alike and this is what the group thought about this years largest global gathering of arts professionals. We discuss things we loved, the things we didn’t, dead cell phones, and more. Shout out to the presenters, conference committee and board members, and staff that work hard to bring us all together. We

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Ep. 173 Scott Speck: Conducting Energy

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2026/01/28

Ep. 173 Scott Speck: Conducting EnergyThe Pod goes classical this week as Katie welcomes conductor Scott Speck to talk about life as an orchestra conductor, his philosophy around making classical music accessible, and more. The team talks the business of the orchestral world and how to make attending orchestra concerts comfortable for more people. Scott Speck has conducted all over the world and is currently the Artistic Director for the Chicago Philharmonic and Music Director for the Joffrey

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Ep. 172 Ideas from MAX: Less Profit, More Community

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2026/01/21

Ep. 172 Ideas from MAX: Less Profit, More Community This week on our Ideas from MAX series we share Socks Whitmore’s thoughts on the industry focusing less on profits and more on community. Socks Whitmore (https://sockswhitmore.com/) among many other things is the Communications Leader at the Creative and Independent Producer Alliance (https://www.cipausa.org/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed

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Ep. 171 Ritesh Patel: It Takes Longer Than You Expect

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2026/01/14

Ep. 171 Ritesh Patel: It Takes Longer Than You ExpectThis week, our hosts talk about their favorite music festival or rave experience, Katie tries to explain the difference between a club and a “big dance party”, and Josh shares his conversation with Ritesh Patel. Ritesh shares how and why he got started in ticketing and music festivals. Ritesh Patel (@ritlocus) is the co-founder and CEO of Ticket Fairy (https://www.ticketfairy.com/) and the creator of LOCUS, a producer of underground electronic

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Ep. 170 Moms Be Mommin’

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2026/01/07

Ep. 170 Moms Be Mommin’In this special episode Katie and Danielle talk with presenters Tanya Gertz and Lindsay Bauer about what it means to be a working parent in our industry, and why the field needs support systems. Our hosts and guests share realities that often stay hidden: guilt, career tradeoffs, childcare gaps, invisible labor, and more. Moms in the Arts will meet twice at APAP 2026: Saturday, January 10 from 6:00pm to 7:30pm Sunday, January 11 from 6:00pm to 7:30pm In addition to being

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Ep. 169 New Year’s Podcastin’ Eve

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2025/12/31

Ep. 169 New Year’s Podcastin’ EveIt’s another podcast party as we say goodbye to the year (or decade!) that was 2025. The team takes a few minutes to reflect on impactful artistic moments from the last year and share how we’re moving forward into 2026. Wishing you a fun, safe, and happy New Year’s Eve and 2026! Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

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Ep. 168 The Holiday Merriment Episode

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2025/12/24

Ep. 168 The Holiday Merriment EpisodeIt’s the holidays! We’ve all wrapped up our festive programming, but may still be wrapping gifts. This week the Pod Squad shares their holiday plans and you guessed it, Danielle hosts a holiday trivia game. Happy holidays to you and yours from the No Business Like team! Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

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Ep. 167 Ideas from MAX: Programming for the 25-45 Age...

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2025/12/17

Ep. 167 Ideas from MAX: Programming for the 25-45 Age Range This week on Ideas from MAX we talk to Amanda Sauvie about the challenges of programming for the 25 to 45 demographic, both in them showing up and in finding the right talent to book. Amanda Sauvie is the Manager of Community Programming at the FIM (https://thefim.org/) in Flint, Michigan. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

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Ep. 166 Ideas from MAX: Programming Genres Back to Back

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2025/12/10

Ep. 166 Ideas from MAX: Programming Genres Back to BackThe next conversation in our Ideas from MAX series features Wallace Thomas’ hot take on a cappella music, which leads into a broader conversation on booking and programming strategy. Wallace Thomas is a member of the a cappella group Ball in the House (https://www.ballinthehouse.com/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.

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Ep. 165 Lisa Richards Toney – Part 2: To Be Still Is...

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2025/12/03

Ep. 165 Lisa Richards Toney – Part 2: To Be Still Is to Be Powerful This week, Josh shares part two of his conversation with Lisa Richards Toney. They discuss the power in stillness, organizational management, and the annual APAP conference. Lisa Richards Toney is the President and CEO of the Association of Performing Arts Professionals – APAP (https://apap365.org/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed

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Ep. 164 Lisa Richards Toney – Part 1: The Arts Taught...

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2025/11/26

Ep. 164 Lisa Richards Toney – Part 1: The Arts Taught Me ThatThis week Josh shares part one of his conversation with Lisa Richards Toney; to warm up for that conversation our hosts share some of their favorite APAP memories. Lisa Richards Toney shares the journey of how the arts impacted her life and moments that led her to being the head of APAP. She shares the challenges of leading a national organization through a global pandemic, the need for innovation and change, and more. Lisa Richards Toney

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Ep. 163 Ideas from MAX: Audience Development vs....

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2025/11/19

Ep. 163 Ideas from MAX: Audience Development vs. Community EngagementOur Ideas from MAX series will feature conversations from our booth at the 2025 Midwest Arts Xpo and a roundtable discussion with the Pod Squad! This week we kick off with Gary Maynard’s answer to the questions “What are we not talking about enough in the industry?”: the differences between audience development and community engagement. Gary Minyard is the Chief Creative Officer at Dayton Live in Dayton, OH

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