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INSIDE AND OUTSIDE: Nature + Pop Culture News with Jessica Murnane

Jessica Murnane

I"m your host, Jessica Murnane (author and horticultural therapy practitioner) – who is equally obsessed with the healing power of nature and the healing power of watching TV in bed. And I"m merging those two worlds together on Inside and Outside. Each week, my guest and I first discuss an OUTSIDE thing, like our first nature memory, how gardening can change the brain, and the rise of birding. Then we cover an INSIDE thing, like a show we"re binging, the latest internet gossip, and pop culture

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44:01

Reptile Private Parts + Crystal Light, Mr. Belding,...

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2026/10/08

In this episode, we go outside to talk about the wild world of reptile private parts. And then we head inside to discuss the 1988 Crystal Light Aerobics Competition, R.I.P Mr. Belding, Nathan Fielder's new documentary about Elizabeth Holmes, The Traitors, and the new ROHNY cast. About this week's guest: Ally is a personal stylist, shopper, and resident pop culture reporter. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Basker Sign up for Garden Club! Why Snakes Have Two Penises via National Geographic You

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48:46

Is Loving Nature Genetic? + How To Find A New...

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2026/10/01

In this episode, we discuss the debate around biophilia / a love of nature – is it an innate attraction, is it in our genes, or are we just othering nature altogether? Then we move inside and talk about the death of the (fun) internet scroll, how Google is slowly killing businesses, how to stay curious, building your own internets, and going offline to find out what you actually like again. About this week's guest: Laura Wright is the founder of The First Mess, a blog for plant-based recipe

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44:23

How To Recover Like Nature + The Lore Of Beanie...

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2026/09/24

In this episode, we discuss what happened when a scientist let an abandoned field rest (no seeding, no weeding, no special care). Lots of metaphors in this one! And then we move inside to discuss the craze of Beanie Babies, high-level collecting, and the genius/shady marketing of Ty Warner. About this week's guest: Timothy Pakron is a cookbook author (Mississippi Vegan and Garden Variety), food blogger, and recipe developer. His work has been featured by NPR, Garden & Gun, Food & Wine, and VegNews,

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45:00

Using Underwear For Soil Health and Y2K Again or AI...

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2026/09/17

In this episode, we talk about how Dutch scientists used thousands of underwear to test soil (and the results!). Plus, we take a deep dive into the drama and controversy surrounding Anthropic and the discourse around the dangers of AI (and the hope). About this week's guest: Aaron is a 3x Emmy-nominated designer, director, and co-founder of Filmograph, an LA-based production studio specializing in title sequences for film and television. He's work includes titles for just about anything you've ever

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49:44

Why Amsterdam Banned Meat + Fossil Fuel Ads and Diet...

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2026/05/21

In this episode, we talk about how Amsterdam has banned meat and fossil fuel-related ads and oak trees fighting off caterpillars in the most wild way. And then we move inside with an ethical moral question about a very big fashion party, how cigarettes and Diet Coke have made a comeback, Brooke Shields on reality TV, The Devil Wears Prada, and a wee bit of Summer House, and more. About this week's guest: Ally is a personal stylist, shopper, and resident pop culture reporter. Show notes! This

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48:07

How To Find Hope Through Nature + When Historical...

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2026/05/14

In this episode, we discuss the hope that nature can bring to our lives, how it can promote social well-being, and the parallels of gardening and running a startup. Then we move inside to talk about historical fashion, how body standards have changed over time, and how they're changing (even more) with GLP-1s. About this week's guest: Lauren ("Lar") Lee is the cofounder of Semaine Health, a plant-based women's supplement brand built on the belief that your body isn't a collection of symptoms — it's

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42:18

How Flowers Made Our World and Heated Social Media...

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2026/05/07

In this episode, we discuss the significant role flowers have played in creating our world, the biological reason we're attracted to flowers, women in horticultural, and David's inside pick (which is sort of an outside one). About this week's guest: David George Haskell is a writer and biologist acclaimed for his lyrical explorations of the living world. Haskell is a two-time finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in General Nonfiction, for The Forest Unseen and Sounds Wild and Broken. He is recipient of

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33:26

Gardens That Can Save The World and A Noodle...

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2026/04/10

In this episode, we start outside and talk about how gardens can be part of a revolution for positive change, the easiest way to start as a beginner, and the connection between gardens and habit stacking. Then we move inside to talk about Lottie's kitchen obsession. About this week's guest: Lottie Delamain is an RHS Chelsea award-winning garden designer. She trained at the Inchbald School of Design and has worked on gardens around the UK, from small urban spaces to historic estates. She is also a

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44:44

The Nature Faker Controversy and Peter Hujar's Day...

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2026/04/02

In this episode, we start outside and talk about the Nature Fakers controversy (and how Teddy Roosevelt was involved). Then we talk about Mason's new book and the struggle of making art while also making a living (day jobs, get rich schemes, and family help). And then Mason shares his inside thing - which leads us into a conversation about nostalgia for pre-internet days. About this week's guest: Mason Currey is the author of the Daily Rituals books — Daily Rituals: How Artists Work and Daily

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50:48

Coffins Made Of Mushrooms and Empathy For As*holes...

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2026/03/26

In this episode, we talk coffins made of mushrooms, when perspective taking costs too much, and the difference between empathy and accountability. About this week's guest: Karen Faith is the CEO of Others Unlimited. Previously an ethnographer, her work has shaped initiatives at Google, Amazon, Indeed, Blue Cross, The Federal Reserve Bank, The NBA, The ACLU, and The Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art, to name a few. She's an empathy trainer named Karen, and the joke isn't lost on her. Which is how she's

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40:02

Composting 101 + Why Are Longevity Bros So Obsessed...

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2026/03/05

In this episode, we talk about (nature): the importance of composting, the complexities of food waste, the myth of compost being stinky, and all the tips to get started. Plus (pop culture): why bros are so into aliens, the documentary that sparked the obsession, and the biggest question of them all, "do aliens compost?" About this week's guest: Cassandra Marketos is a Los Angeles-based compost artist, writer, and author of Compost After Reading. In her past life, she was the first employee at

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47:55

The World's Largest Wildlife Crossing and The Death /...

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2026/02/26

In this episode, we talk about the Wallis Annenberg Wildlife Crossing in California (world's largest wildlife crossing), the return of skinny jeans, how trends are dictated, and the problem with designing for the internet and not ourselves. About this week's guest: Since graduating from Harvard and Le Cordon Bleu Paris, Serena Wolf has put her culinary skills to work as a private chef, culinary instructor, recipe developer, author, and blogger at Domesticate-Me.com. She is the author of The Dude

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43:04

New Species of Butterflies, Tell Me Lies, and What To...

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2026/02/19

This week we talk about the research project to find new species of butterflies, the legal push for plastic producers to pay, Heated Rivalry, Tell Me Lies, Robinne Lee's new book, and lots more! About this week's guest: Ally is a stylist and personal shopper. Her superpower is helping you find your style and the clothes to go with it. Show notes! Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Ally: Personal styling siteSubstack Stuff we talked about: Nine new butterfly species

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45:11

Extinction Of Experience, The Truth About Barbie, and...

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2026/02/10

In this episode we talk about Extinction of Experience (the loss of nature-human interactions), the wild and untold story of Barbie and Mattel (lawsuits, coporate espionage, and theft!), the Tiktokfication of celebrity news (the Beckhams and Scandoval), plus a surprise inside pick. About this week's guest: Tarpley Hitt is an author, journalist, and an editor / contributor to The Drift magazine. She has previously reported on culture and money for The Daily Beast and Gawker, and her work has also

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59:44

Season Finale! Celebrity Gardens + Is Facetuning An...

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2025/12/09

In this episode, we discuss if celebrities actually do their own gardening, why fashion journalists aren't always the most "fasionable", and if Facetuning is an art or out of control. About this week's guest: Emily is the founder of I Heart Mess, a roundup of the best of the worst celebrity fashion, on Substack and YouTube. She is a contributing writer for numerous publications, including i-D, New York, and the New York Times. She is also the co-founder of the Lowbrow Book Club and co-host of the

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01:11:07

River Walks + Content Fatigue + The Intimacy of...

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2025/12/02

About this week's guest: Ruby is a journalist and author. Show notes! This week's sponsor: My July Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Ruby's Work:WebsiteSober CuriousSober Curious ResetWomen Without KidsMaterial World, Mystical Girl Things we talked about: Flesh byDavid Szalay Books to TV / Movies 2025-26 To advertise on the podcast: hello@baskergardens.com

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47:16

Camp Songs + Solitude vs. Isolation + Not Doing It...

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2025/11/25

About this week's guest: Akaya advises, trains, and consults on how change happens individually, organizationally, and societally. She is on faculty of the Just Economy Institute, is Lead Advisor at Third Act, and is founder of the New Universal Wisdom and Leadership Institute. She was President of Rockwood Leadership Institute for ten years, and directs the Thriving Roots Fund. Akaya received the 2020 Vision Award from Middlebury College, was one of Conscious Company's 30 World Changing Women of

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57:51

World's Largest Spider Web + Hallmark vs. Lifetime...

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2025/11/18

About this week's guest: Ally is a stylist and personal shopper. Her superpower is helping you find your style and the clothes to go with it. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Semaine Use code GROW for $50 off a one-on-one growing session. Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Where you can find Ally: Personal styling siteSubstack Stuff we talked about: Historic magnolia trees removed for White House ballroomMassive Web—Home to More Than 100,000 SpidersAll's FairExMasOh. What. Fun. Find

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44:04

The Power of Plums + Spencer Pratt Goes Activist with...

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2025/11/11

About this week's guest: Allison and her sisters, Elaine and Jacqueline, founded Le Prunier in 2018. Prior to the development of Le Prunier, Allison worked with companies such as Giorgio Armani, Mother Denim, and STX Entertainment. Her eye for design and genuine love for all things health + wellness has finally culminated into her most exciting project yet. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Semaine Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter Start A Well-Being GardenLearn To Grow Cut Flowers Use

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01:05:12

Lake Monsters + Fandoms + Substack Drama +...

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2025/11/04

About this week's guest: Allie Lehman is the founder of Wonderly, a design and development studio. She also writes Huge Fan, a publication about fandom and business (it's part storytelling, part strategy, and always about the way fans shape what lasts). She's also an artist and illustrator and serves on the board of All People Arts. Show notes! This week's sponsor: Semaine Sign up for the Inside + Outside newsletter New session: Starting A Well-Being Garden Where you can find Allie:WonderlyHuge

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