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Data Center Richness

Data Center Richness brings you expert insights on the world of data centers, cloud computing and AI infrastructure. Join respected industry expert Rich Miller for conversations that will help you understand the fast-moving world of digital infrastructure, and what it means to you. Rich Miller is a journalist and analyst who has been tracking the data center industry for more than 25 years, explaining how data centers are central to the Internet, the AI revolution, and the energy transition. Rich

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46:07

An Inside Look at the Data Center Development Journey

Data Center Richness ·

2025/10/30

Data centers are economic engines of the new economy. Every data center starts as an idea, with a location attached. It takes a lot of funding, planning and execution to create these complex facilities. Today on Data Center Richness, we share a behind-the-scenes look at how investors and developers work together to bring a data center project from concept to reality. Our guests are Sabey Data Centers President Tim Mirick and Jeff Kanne, the President and CEO of National Real Estate Advisors. The two

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38:28

What Data Center Innovation Looks Like in the Age of AI

Data Center Richness ·

2025/10/15

What Data Center Innovation Looks Like in the Age of AI Data center development is moving fast, and so is the computing technology that lives inside them. The AI boom is accelerating just about everything, placing a premium on innovation. So what does data center innovation look like in 2025 and beyond? To explore this question, we turned to Phill Lawson-Shanks, the Chief Innovation Officer at Aligned Data Centers. Phill has been involved in transformative work in the sector for years, from the edge

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Decoding Data Center Power with Dan Crosby

Data Center Richness ·

2025/10/08

Energy is the lifeblood of every data center. As the AI boom has gained velocity, the focus on energy has intensified as power demand has effectively maxed out existing grid capacity in major data center markets. Understanding the finer points of power has never been more important. Dan Crosby has helped explain the complexities of the energy market for the data center sector. Dan is the founder and CEO of Legend Energy Advisors, where he and his team helped deploy clients deploy multiple gigawatts

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29:41

What Every Local Official Should Know About Data Centers

Data Center Richness ·

2025/09/25

When a data center project comes to town, a question often asked by residents and local officials is “what’s in it for us?” What if there was a guide that could help local officials understand the upside of how digital services can transform their work and their community? Today we continue our series on data centers and community controversies. Our guest is Ilissa Miller, the CEO of iMiller Public Relations, who has deep experience communicating the benefits of digital infrastructure. Iliisa has

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47:54

Data Centers and Community Controversies

Data Center Richness ·

2025/09/17

We've seen a lot of headlines about data centers lately, especially controversies in communities considering large new data center campuses to support AI. Community resistance to data centers is not new, but has escalated rapidly in recent months, with a number of projects being canceled or delayed amid community outcry, including some that represented billions of dollars in local investment. Adam Waitkunas of Milldam Public Relations publishes a newsletter tracking data center controversies and how

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47:40

EdgeCore 2.0: Building Big in Power-Rich Locations

Data Center Richness ·

2025/09/04

Building big campuses in power-rich locations. That's the approach at EdgeCore Digital Infrastructure, which is developing data center campuses in six sites across the US, including a $17 billion campus in Louisa County, Virginia. EdgeCore's strategy is guided by CEO Lee Kestler, who has deep experience in both the data center and energy sectors. Kestler has held leadership positions at data center operators Exodus, DuPont Fabros and Vantage Data Centers, as well as stints in the energy industry at

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34:07

Why Data Centers Are Turning to Bloom Energy Fuel Cells

Data Center Richness ·

2025/08/20

It’s been a big year for Bloom Energy, a fuel cell manufacturer which has been winning large deals to provide power for data centers. Our guest on Data Center Richness is Jeff Barber, the Vice President of Data Center Sales for Bloom Energy. Jeff discusses why Bloom is providing on-site power for large data centers AND their utility providers, and how fuel cells can address some of the community concerns about noise and emissions from data center projects. Here’s a guide to our discussion: 00:00 -

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41:06

How Aligned is Tackling Data Center Density

Data Center Richness ·

2025/08/12

Cooling is a hot topic in the data center industry. Few companies have been more focused on cooling than Aligned Data Centers, which builds hyperscale facilities for some of the world's leading players in cloud computing and AI. Our guest today is Michael Welch, the Chef Technology Officer at Aligned, who discusses how Aligned is updating its products and designs for the rising densities in AI workloads, and why an advanced cooling lab is an important part of the company’s strategy. Data Center

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37:03

What's Next for Data Center Investing?

Data Center Richness ·

2025/07/24

Large global investors have played a major role in the AI boom, providing funding for the construction of data centers and network infrastructure. Today we look at data centers through the perspective of investors, How do large private investors think about data centers as an asset class? What trends do they consider in their investment strategies? Which markets are the most attractive? And how do they think about opportunity and risk in a fast-moving market? Rich Miller's guest today is Michael

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Chris Crosby: Upgrading the Data Center Supply Chain

Data Center Richness ·

2025/07/15

Chris Crosby has deep insights on essential the role of data centers in an AI-powered future. Crosby is the CEO of Compass Datacenters, which builds some of the world’s largest data center campuses. In this week's Data Center Richness episode, host Rich Miller talks with Crosby about how Compass has embraced new approaches to power and the supply chain, as well as sustainable construction and backup power. Crosby also shares about Compass' adoption of HVO (hydrogenated vegetable oil), a

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48:15

Verrus is Rethinking the Data Center

Data Center Richness ·

2025/06/26

Verrus is a new data center company that is seeking to build the data center of the future. It is rethinking key aspects of how data centers are built, and how they interact with the power grid. On this episode of Data Center Richness, host Rich Miller speaks with the leadership team at Verrus, an all-star team of data center pioneers who are rethinking the data center for 2025 and beyond. That includes new approaches to some of the huge challenges the industry faces around power and design. Verrus

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45:56

Why AI Will Be A Paradigm Shift for the Tech Sector

Data Center Richness ·

2025/06/17

AI will be a paradigm shift for tech - and how that may change our work and our daily lives. What will that look like? To explore this important topic, Data Center Richness host Rich Miller speaks with Bill Kleyman, CEO of AI technology firm Apolo. They discuss the speed of the AI transition, what comes next, what it means for the tech sector, how we handle this type of big, disruptive change as society. Rich and Bill examine AI adoption in the context of cloud computing, and how initial skepticism

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21:26

How Will Data Centers Be Different in 2030?

Data Center Richness ·

2025/06/04

What will the data center of 2030 look like? How will design and technology change as AI moves to the next level? Those are the questions that Vlad Galabov and his research team addressed at the Omdia Analyst Summit at the recent Data Center World conference. Vlad is the Senior Research Director for Enterprise Infrastructure at Omdia, one of the market intelligence services at Informa TechTarget. At DCW we got a chance to talk with Vlad about how AI is changing the way data centers are designed and

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43:02

The Key to Unlocking More Data Center Power

Data Center Richness ·

2025/05/20

Are regional power grids actually constrained? Or could dozens of gigawatts of power be unlocked by new approaches to grid management and data center power contracts? That’s the intriguing question posed by new research from an energy analyst, and it could have large implications for the data center industry. Data Center Richness host RIch Miller talks with Tyler Norris, whose recent research paper titled “Rethinking Load Growth” has made waves in the energy sector, advancing new strategies for

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What's Next in Data Center Real Estate?

Data Center Richness ·

2025/05/14

The geography of data center real estate has been changing rapidly since ChatGPT arrived in 2022, kicking off huge demand for IT infrastructure for AI hardware. This AI boom has transformed how data centers are designed, and where they are located and powered. To understand these changes, DCR host Rich Miller spoke with David Liggitt, the founder and CEO of datacenterHawk, which provides research and analysis on data center real estate. David is one of the sector’s sharpest analysts, and has been

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38:39

Data Centers, AI and the Future of Power

Data Center Richness ·

2025/05/06

Could data centers help reshape the power grid? The boom in AI infrastructure is creating challenges for data centers, utility providers and power grids. To help us understand the state of play between data and energy, we turned to Elisa Wood, the founder of Energy Changemakers, which focuses on the future of distributed energy. Elisa has been covering the energy sector for years, and many of you may know her work at Microgrid Knowledge. We discuss the intersection of energy and data, the potential

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26:28

Power, Bravery and Nuclear Data Centers

Data Center Richness ·

2025/04/02

In the premiere episode of the Data Center Richness podcast, host Rich Miller speaks with Apolo CEO Bill Kleyman about his mantra of "power and bravery" as the key to innovation and building the data center industry of the future. A key focus is the timeline for nuclear-powered data centers. How soon can nuclear energy be available to address the "power gap" from constraints on regional power grids? Rich and Bill discuss the varied approaches to nuclear data centers - including traditional nuclear

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