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Spirit of Paimio Conversations

Paimio Sanatorium

Alvar and Aino Aalto"s Paimio Sanatorium is a radical synthesis of architecture, nature and research and it is as relevant today as it was when it was born. Our podcast origins from the Spirit of Paimio manifesto and conference. It brings together thinkers and doers, makers, and visionaries from the field of architecture, art, design and media to collaboratively build unexpected ways to view new perspectives through radical, practice-based solutions. The hosts are Hanna Harris and Petri

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00:08:01

Ferdinando Verderi: Against Standardization in...

Spirit of Paimio Conversations ·

2025/09/19

In this episode, Ferdinando Verderi talks with Petri Burtsoff about complexity, fragmentation, and the essence of community. He makes the case for embracing diversity and individuality rather than standardization, drawing parallels to Alvar Aalto’s human-centered architecture. The conversation also explores the continuing importance of physical places in creating connection and togetherness in an increasingly digital world.Ferdinando Verderi is a NY based Italian creative director responsible for

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00:14:16

George Massoud: Healing Properties of Materials

Spirit of Paimio Conversations ·

2025/09/19

In this episode, architect George Massoud of Material Cultures joins Petri Burtsoff at Paimio Sanatorium to discuss how architecture can reconnect with ecology and community. Massoud shares insights from Growing Place in London, where working with natural materials, knowledge exchange, and community empowerment come together as tools for resilience. Reflecting on Paimio, he draws parallels between the sanatorium’s legacy of healing and the restorative potential of materials and design today.George

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00:14:13

Studio Swine & Yoko Choy: Adventure Design

Spirit of Paimio Conversations ·

2025/09/19

In this episode, Alexander Groves of Studio Swine and writer-curator Yoko Choy join Hanna Harris at Paimio Sanatorium to reflect on design as exploration, storytelling, and community. Groves shares how Studio Swine’s “adventure design” approach emerges from place, materials, and collaboration, while Cho highlights the studio’s shift from context-driven research to creating new collective experiences. Together they discuss narrative in design, the welcoming spirit of Paimio, and the idea of “creative

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00:15:32

Beatriz Colomina: The Road Not Taken

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2025/09/19

In this episode, Beatriz Colomina discusses with Hanna Harris what she calls the road not taken in architecture: designing not only for the idealized, healthy, upright body, but also for the vulnerable — the sick, the elderly, those whose needs often remain invisible. She highlights how Aino and Alvar Aalto’s human approach at Paimio Sanatorium already pointed in this direction, shaped by their sensitivity to patients’ experiences and even their own encounters with illness.The conversation also

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00:18:05

Dan Hill: From Door Handle to Nation

Spirit of Paimio Conversations ·

2025/09/19

In this episode, Dan Hill joins Hanna Harris at Paimio Sanatorium to explore scale, community, and cultural imagination in design. Drawing on Eliel Saarinen’s maxim “always design a thing in its next larger context,” Hill reflects on how materials, buildings, and cities are interconnected across scales — from the door handle to the nation. He introduces the idea of the “slowdown city,” shaped by demographic shifts and changing economies, and shares insights from Japan’s adaptive reuse practices. At

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00:16:36

Spencer Bailey: Architecture as Memorial

Spirit of Paimio Conversations ·

2025/09/19

In this episode, Spencer Bailey joins Petri Burtsoff at Paimio Sanatorium to reflect on memorials, memory, and architecture. Bailey discusses why Paimio itself can be seen as a kind of memorial — both to Aalto’s design ethos and to the lives once shaped within its walls. He explores the role of abstraction and metaphor in great memorials, how built spaces can function as portals that change us, and why architecture has the power to preserve collective memory in an age of fleeting attention. Drawing

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00:10:33

Bjarke Ingels: Hedonistic Sustainability and the...

Spirit of Paimio Conversations ·

2025/09/19

Bjarke Ingels joins Petri Burtsoff to talk about Alvar Aalto’s legacy, the interplay between buildings and nature, and the role of play in creativity. He reflects on his idea of “hedonistic sustainability” — showing how environmentally responsible design can also be joyful, attractive, and desirable. The conversation moves from the colorful details of Paimio Sanatorium to lessons from LEGO building and the social power of architecture in shaping communities.Bjarke Ingels is a renowned Danish

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00:15:54

Ersilia Vaudo: Beyond Apollo – Diversity in Space

Spirit of Paimio Conversations ·

2025/09/19

In this episode, Ersilia Vaudo, Chief Diversity Officer at the European Space Agency, joins Petri Burtsoff at Paimio Sanatorium to reflect on space, community, and architecture. She highlights why future space exploration must embrace diversity and inclusion, moving beyond the narrow image of the Apollo astronauts to represent humanity as a whole. Vaudo shares how seeing Earth from space fosters a deep sense of belonging, and what that perspective can teach us on the ground. Looking ahead to lunar

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00:11:32

Oliver Jahn: Community as a Guideline for Design

Spirit of Paimio Conversations ·

2025/09/19

In this episode, Oliver Jahn joins Hanna Harris at Paimio Sanatorium to reflect on the Spirit of Paimio Conference and its theme, Reimagining Community. He observes a shift in design where community and nature increasingly serve as guiding principles, and emphasizes the importance of history and context in shaping architecture. Drawing on Beatriz Colomina’s notion of “form follows bacteria,” Jahn reflects on the unexpected roots of minimalism, the challenge of embracing complexity in today’s

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00:13:03

Loreta Castro Reguera: Always Begin with a Question

Spirit of Paimio Conversations ·

2025/09/19

In this episode, architect and urban designer Loreta Castro Reguera joins Petri Burtsoff at Paimio Sanatorium to discuss her practice’s work with water-sensitive urban design in Mexico. She describes how small-scale pavilions grew into larger public spaces where water functions as both infrastructure and a social connector. Castro reflects on her bottom-up approach of starting with questions rather than images, and how design can foster community, accessibility, and resilience. At Paimio, she draws

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00:12:34

Ladies & Gentlemen Studio: Acts of Care

Spirit of Paimio Conversations ·

2025/09/19

In this episode, Jean Lee and Dylan Davis of Ladies & Gentlemen Studio join Hanna Harris at Paimio Sanatorium to discuss design as an act of care and community. They reflect on their exploration of Shaker design through Furnishing Utopia and how their pandemic-born initiative Public Access invited designers worldwide to create open-source acts of empathy. At the Spirit of Paimio Conference, Lee and Davis share how the sanatorium’s human-centered details resonate with their practice and how acts

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00:06:57

Susanna Pettersson: Potential of Heritage Sites

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2023/11/23

In this episode Hanna Harris discusses with Susanna Pettersson, CEO of The Finnish Cultural Foundation about the possibility of radical marriage of capital and preservation? What is the role of the agents who make culture in bringing cultural values forward? And why Paimio Sanatorium can be a platform or mothership for creativity and inspiration?Join Susanna Pettersson and Hanna Harris in Spirit of Paimio. Susanna Pettersson, CEO of The Finnish Cultural Foundation, was interviewed by Hanna Harris,

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00:10:08

Max Fraser: Preserving of an icon

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2023/11/23

In this episode Hanna Harris discusses with Max Fraser about possible futures of Paimio Sanatorium, an architectural icon. Will it be an institution or what guise it needs to take in next life? Why it is important to be local before you can be global? And why will buildings with architecture of hope survive? Join Max Fraser and Hanna Harris in Spirit of Paimio. Max Fraser, Editorial Director of Dezeen, was interviewed by Hanna Harris, Chief Design Officer at the City of Helsinki. Paimio Sanatorium

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00:07:17

Otto Lowe: 3D and Cultural Heritage

Spirit of Paimio Conversations ·

2023/11/23

In this episode Hanna Harris discusses with Otto Lowe about possibilities of 3D in preserving and exhibiting architecture and art. Is it just to create more entry points for people to cherish artifacts and buildings or is there more to it? And what is the importance of local communities in preservation? Join Otto Lowe and Hanna Harris in Spirit of Paimio. Otto Lowe, Head of 3D in Factum Foundation, was interviewed by Hanna Harris, Chief Design Officer at the City of Helsinki. Paimio Sanatorium is a

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00:10:09

Kieran Long: Institutions’ role in polarizing era

Spirit of Paimio Conversations ·

2023/11/23

In this episode Hanna Harris discusses with Kieran Long about how institutions can help us to have a common playing field in polarizing public conversations? What can big institutions like V&A learn from their histories? Why do we need personal commitment at the core of great institution? And can architecture still heal? Join Kieran Long and Hanna Harris in Spirit of Paimio. Kieran Long is director of ArkDes, Sweden's National Center for Architecture and Design was interviewed by Hanna

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00:13:00

Lyndon Neri: “A Place for Healing”

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2023/11/16

In this episode Lyndon Neri discuss with Hanna Harris Paimio Sanatorium as medical instrument. What is the master class Paimio Sanatorium gave us in how architecture and design can shape the future? Why do we need healing architecture today? What are the key perspectives for bringing it to fruition today? Join Hanna Harris and Lyndon Neri in Spirit of Paimio. Lyndon Neri is founding partner of Neri&Hu, design and research office, an inter-disciplinary architectural design practice based in

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