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Both Sides of the Aisle

Natalie Gochnour, Shireen Ghorbani, John Dougall

Both Sides of the Aisle is a weekly debate over politics, policy and current issues facing the state of Utah, featuring voices representing the Right, the Center, and the Left.Representing Right is State Auditor John Dougall (R), on the Left is former Salt Lake County Councilwoman Shireen Ghorbani (D), and speaking for the “common sense middle” is Natalie Gochnour, an associate dean in the David Eccles School of Business and director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah

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25:46

Katie Matheson and Alliance for a Better Utah

Both Sides of the Aisle ·

2026/10/08

Shireen Ghorbani sits down with Katie Matheson, the new executive director of Alliance for a Better Utah, to discuss her background and goals for the political non-profit.

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25:42

United Nations, congressional races, and Sen. Curtis'...

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2026/10/01

Our hosts discuss China, Iran, Israel, critical midterm races to watch, and growing dissatisfaction with incumbent political leadership.

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25:41

Education in Utah with Andrea Brandley

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2026/09/24

Our hosts sit down with Andrea Brandley, senior education analyst at the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute, to discuss how Utah's education system compares and how to improve it.

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25:45

Trump's $5000 midterm enticement and the fight over...

Both Sides of the Aisle ·

2026/09/17

Our hosts discuss record high diesel prices, Trump's promise of $5000 checks if Republicans win the midterms, and the federal investigation into Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson.

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25:42

Climate change, gender partisanship, and Utah's MLB bid

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2026/09/10

Our hosts discuss the pragmatic approach to climate change politics, whether or not the U.S. is "at war" with Iran, and takeaways from Gov. Cox's new book.

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25:42

Nepal flooding, beef imports, Venezuelan oil, and...

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2026/09/03

Natalie and Shireen discuss Trump's international trade policies, Meta's $17 billion child safety settlement, and the defining crises of Governor Cox's term in office.

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25:43

New Iran sanctions, US-Canada trade war, and Flock...

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2026/08/27

Our hosts discuss the U.S. threatening Iran with an "economic D-Day," the record-breaking $40 trillion national debt, and out-of-state police accessing Utah's Flock cameras.

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25:42

USS Lincoln, Cox's low approval, and polling on voter...

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2026/08/20

Our hosts discuss the morale of U.S. forces deployed in the Middle East, why incumbent approval is dropping in Utah, and the partisan split over voter ID requirements.

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25:44

Iran War impacts, AG Todd Blanche, and Utah Supreme...

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2026/08/13

Our hosts discuss how the Iran War has impacted military stockpiles and gas prices, the confirmation of a new U.S. attorney general, and who will fill the two vacancies on the Utah Supreme Court.

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25:42

War powers, Sens. McConnell and Graham, and Utah's...

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2026/08/06

Our hosts discuss an Iran war powers resolution's narrow failure, Sen. Mitch McConnell's disappearance, Sen. Lindsey Graham's death, and Utah's bid for a nuclear facility.

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25:40

Equality Utah

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2026/07/30

Shireen Ghorbani sits down with the leadership of Equality Utah to discuss the group's political advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights and protections in Utah.

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25:52

Emma Addams and Mormon Women for Ethical Government

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2026/07/23

Our hosts sit down with the co-executive director for Mormon Women for Ethical Government and discuss the group's inception, national and statewide organizing, and its ethical approach to politics.

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25:51

Professor Jacob Rugh

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2026/07/16

Shireen Ghorbani sits down with Jake Rugh, a BYU sociology professor, to discuss the unique politics of Utah and what they mean for the state's future.

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25:50

Tim Hawkes, chair of the Great Salt Lake Advisory...

Both Sides of the Aisle ·

2026/07/09

Our hosts discuss the importance of the Great Salt Lake, the danger posed by its disappearance, and how water conservation can protect Utahns' health, environment, and economy.

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25:29

America 250

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2026/07/02

Our hosts discuss Independence Day traditions, U.S. leaders and icons, patriotism, and the meaning of the American dream.

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25:44

Iran, Cuba, the Reflecting Pool, and AI pushback

Both Sides of the Aisle ·

2026/06/25

Our hosts discuss U.S. relations with Iran and Cuba, algae blooming in the Reflecting Pool, and how resistance to AI and data centers is reshaping Utah politics.

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25:23

World Cup 2026, US-Iran memorandum, and Utah's new...

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2026/06/18

Our hosts discuss the World Cup matches taking place across North America, the world's first trillionaire, and the cost of expanding the Utah Supreme Court.

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25:39

Trump, ICE and CBP funding package, and the audit of...

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2026/06/12

Our hosts discuss President Trump's attendance at the Knicks NBA Finals game, Congress's passage of a $70 billion funding package for ICE and CBP, and the results from the audit of Utah's voter rolls.

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25:43

Gas prices, America's 250th, and the 2024 Democratic...

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2026/06/04

Shireen and John discuss affordability, the rush to prepare for the United States' semiquincentennial, and the DNC's faulty autopsy of their 2024 presidential campaign.

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24:42

Sarah Wright and Glade Sowards

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2026/05/28

Natalie Gochnour interviews Sarah Wright, CEO and founder of Utah Clean Energy, and Glade Sowards, senior energy and climate program manager with the Salt Lake City Corporation.

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